100+ Octane

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I accidently filled my bike with the new (for Cyprus) 100+ Octane petrol, I can't tell the difference between 95 and 98 but the 100 seems to make a difference, the tank was practically bone dry and I've only been using 95, so over the 35 miles of highway coming home I know my GSA was pulling better.

Has anybody else used it, and are there any drawbacks, apart from the price:rolleyes:
 
I use Optimax both in the car & the bike and there is a definite difference in drive quality as well as mileage...
 
Re: Optimax petrol

littleredrooster said:
Someone else who thinks it's better - it's not just me!

See here for more of the discussion.

Thats interesting, especially the one from Boundless saying that
I was advised to use it in preference to all else

I think I'll try it for a while, the bike was pulling slightly better:cool:

:beerjug:

PS: Can't remember ever hearing of Optimax out here.:confused:
 
My R1100GS has 54,000m on the clock, do you reckon it would be safe to use Optimax in that?
 
Some blurb from Shell belowl:

What is Shell Optimax?

Shell Optimax is a completely new, highly refined unleaded petrol which burns more cleanly to give you smooth power delivery and increased engine protection.

We went back to the drawing board to build the ultimate performance petrol and started by selecting the individual molecules which should go into the fuel. Using this approach and the same technology we use to develop petrol for the Ferrari F1 cars, we produced a unique formula: Shell Optimax - the best performance unleaded petrol in the UK.

Shell Optimax is an ultra low sulphur petrol which meets EU emissions standards which come into force in 2005.



What does Shell Optimax do?

Shell Optimax is designed to enable fuel and air to flow smoothly and quickly to your engine. This means that Optimax burns more cleanly and efficiently than regular petrols to give you increased performance and a quicker response.

It also protects your engine better than any other unleaded petrol.



How is Shell Optimax different to other unleaded petrols?

Shell Optimax is completely new and created specifically for UK motorists who want to get the most from their car and from driving
It has the highest octane rating of any petrol in the UK (98 ron)which enables advanced modern design engines to work more efficiently and deliver more power
It is free of the heavy constituents which are found in other petrols and which leave dirty residue in the engine
It also removes these performance sapping deposits from the airways of the engine, so it cleans your engine as you drive
It protects your engine better than any other unleaded petrol


When will I notice the difference?

Shell Optimax will give your car or motorbike maximum capacity to respond quickly, just when you need it to. You are most likely to feel the difference when you pull away at roundabouts or overtake. The more often you fill up with Shell Optimax, the better your engine will perform. And running exclusively on Shell Optimax will ensure you get optimum performance.

Can I use Optimax in my car or motorbike?

You can use Optimax in any engine which runs on super unleaded or unleaded. It is an ultra low sulphur petrol.

Can I mix Shell Optimax safely with other grades of fuel?

You can mix Optimax with all unleaded petrols but you'll get the full performance and protection benefits if you use it exclusively.

What is the Octane level of Shell Optimax?

Shell Optimax has the highest octane specification of any petrol in the UK. It is greater than 98 Research Octane Number (RON).

I use LRP (Lead Replacement Petrol) - can I use Optimax?

Optimax is not a substitute for LRP. However many cars which run on LRP could be simply and cheaply adjusted to run on unleaded petrol. Others could switch to unleaded fuel if they also use a bottled additive which provides additional protection to their valve seats. Ask your motor manufacturer or local dealer for advice.

Why is Shell launching a completely new fuel now?
Our research shows that many of our customers are enthusiastic drivers and the performance of their vehicles is particularly important to them. Shell Optimax has been developed with Ferrari specifically to offer these customers increased performance and engine protection.

What role has Ferrari played in developing Shell Optimax?

The day-to-day partnership our scientists have with the Ferrari F1 team has given them a unique understanding of engine performance. They have transferred the knowledge which helps Ferrari achieve optimum performance and reliability on the track, to develop Optimax for UK motorists.

How can you prove that Shell Optimax makes a vehicle more responsive?

Shell Optimax was formulated and tested at Shell's world leading research laboratories at the Cheshire Innovations Park. We have extensive engine test data showing that Optimax will enhance engine performance, improve responsiveness and give superior acceleration.

This has been rigorously tested and benchmarked against other petrols currently available in the UK.








Shell Optimax can help you manoeuvre safely by delivering a smooth burst of power, just when you need it most - when you're overtaking on a motorway, for example:

Stage One
The red car is running on Shell Optimax and the green one on standard unleaded petrol



Stage Two
Both cars accelerate from 55 mph to 70 mph during the overtaking manoeuvre. Optimax gives the Optimax driver a smooth burst of power

Stage Three
Which enables him to gain 1-3 car lengths of safety margin



How can you prove that Shell Optimax is better for engines?

Shell Optimax underwent rigorous engine testing, both on the road and on test bed engines. We have extensive test results which show how removing and preventing the build up of deposits in the engine improves engine performance, and data to prove that using Shell Optimax results in both these benefits.

In addition Shell Optimax does not contain the particles which are present in other petrols that form deposits in the engine. Since Optimax is intrinsically clean it is better for the engine as it burns more cleanly and efficiently. Shell Optimax also contains an anti corrosion additive for further protection.
 
quoted from here

It might seem odd that fuels with higher octane ratings burn less easily, yet are popularly thought of as more powerful. Using a fuel with a higher octane allows an engine to be run at a higher compression ratio without having problems with knock. Compression is directly related to power, so engines that require higher octane usually deliver more power. Some high-performance engines are designed to operate with a compression ratio associated with high octane numbers, and thus demand high-octane petrol. It should be noted that the power output of an engine also depends on the energy content of its fuel, which bears no simple relationship to the octane rating.
 
Optimax

Having used this in my car (V70) I can say there is a noticable difference. It does seem to pull better and to accelerate more smoothly, no noticeable improvement in MPG though which others report.
Tried it in the bike ('97 1100) but the difference is not so apparent ?
 
higher octane

jonshread said:
My R1100GS has 54,000m on the clock, do you reckon it would be safe to use Optimax in that?


I use Optimax or equivalent in my 1100gs. 61000+ miles, year 00 and yes it makes a big difference.

normal 95 : 180 to 19 litres

Super : 225 to 19 litres approx.

Yes I ride hard and fast. Paniers and pillion usually.

Also the throttle response can be noticed.
 
there was a report in the sunday times 2 weeks ago, they tested the "super fuels" , both shell and BP, on a dyno --



their conclusion - load of bolloxs .

i can still remember the shell "formula " ( same promise as the stuff they sell now) petrol from the mid eighties that damaged car engines, and they had to withdraw it from sale .


:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
my view after trying it:

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Here's my mini theory :)

As people have already pointed out, high octane fuel merely allows you to advance the ignition timing a bit more, without preignition (pinking or knocking). If your timing is set up for 95 RON fuel, using 98 RON isn't going to help (although other properties of the fuel, like cleaning, might help other aspects).

However, maybe some engines are set up for higher octane fuel, but retard the timing when they detect a lower grade fuel in use - just like the knock sensors on the 1200GS allow you to use lower than 95 RON fuel. Remember that LOADS more money goes into car engine development than bike engines, so car engines are correspondingly more advanced.

This could explain why some people notice an improvement (their egnine adapts) and some don't.
 
Go for it - on our Euopean soiree we noticed the difference from our rather dismal fuel quality we have here to the good stuff that the rest of europe gets. Ironically we actually produce some of the best quality fuel in the world from the North Sea which gets exported, only to import inferior fuel which we add a lot of additives (detergent and sulphur) and then have the privilege of paying copious amounts of tax on it.
A 98 RON fuel is noticeably better in europe than in the UK - when you start putting 100 ron fuel in the fun really starts, the bike bike pulls (wheelies) much better and the fuel consumption is also improved - I got over 340 miles on one tank loaded with panniers etc and I was "not hanging about". Enjoy!
 
do GS's have knock sensors and the corresponding ability to vary the timing?
 
Steptoe said:
there was a report in the sunday times 2 weeks ago, they tested the "super fuels" , both shell and BP, on a dyno --

their conclusion - load of bolloxs ....

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Sounds about right :nod
 
cookie said:
do GS's have knock sensors and the corresponding ability to vary the timing?

I believe the GSA can vary the timing provided it has the CODEC for this, (or so the Agents advised). When I bought my GSA, 02 release this was an add on. Step Toe will probably be the one to know for sure whether it is a feature of all subsequent releases.
 
Well I've been putting Shell Optimax in my R1100GS for a couple of weeks now.

I have been doing the same 88m per day journey to work and used to fill up on 176m every 2 days, my tank would normally show 2 or 3 bars at this point. Now on 176m I have 4 bars showing on the tank and am adding less fuel. I emphasise that the journey is identical and at the same time of day so no traffic differences. I have even used the same petrol station and same pump!

Initially there was little change in consumption and I now put this down to the old 95 octane in the tank diluting the Optimax. My tank is probably all Optimax now.

There is a slight change to the engine (I think), it seems to feel smoother than before. However, I am not 100% sure and it may just be me thinking it should be smoother.

I shall continue using Optimax and see if this MPG increase is permanent.

Jon
 


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