1150GS Gearbox Problem

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My 2000 (W) 1150 GS has developed a gearbox problem. It first refused to go into 3rd, the lever moved up OK but there was no resistance felt and no change. This then spread to 2nd gear and the only way to get into the higher gears was to go back to 1st and start again - often several times.
I discovered however that by using 2nd to 6th only - no problem.
Eventually it stuck in 6th with the lever flopping up & down and doing nothing. (Riding it home was fun !!!)
This is obviously going to entail a gearbox removal and rebuild.
The bike has only done 20,000 miles so I am less than happy.
Has anyone else had a similar problem or am I just unlucky ?:( :( :(
 
Big AL
I 'll think you'll find it's got something to do with the
Gear lever linkage ;)

Put in a search for gear lever.
 
I've heard quite a few stories about 1150 gearbox issues so I suspect it must be a week part of the system. Some of them have been as simple as the linkage, (as suggested) and some not. The 5 speed boxes seem to be better but I've read a few tales of woe on these also. I must admit that this was partially a point when I bought a GS850 as I've heard of no problems with these, although the sme gearbox as the 1100 there is not as much power driving it which can only help.

All this is a shame as I really fancy a shiney new Adventure in Black.

Time will tell.


HAve Fun

AndyT:cool: :cool:
 
Seem to remember this is to do with where the splined shaft goes into the 'box. The bush can become tight, IIRC. Did someone say it was a cheap enough job at the dealer?
 
Actually, my 2001 1150GS is in the shop having the gearbox replaced. I had similar problems, but it got worse; heavy vibration, clunking noise.

When it was in the shop, they discovered that whatever was left of the oil had turned dark gray. it would seem that the previous shop that had done the 40 K (kms) service had "forgot" to fill it up with oil. And apparently, according to BMW, you really nede oil in the gearbox...:o
 
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had a 2002 1150 and two-up would commonly jump out of 6th gear into 5th often at high speed which was not reassuring....took it back to A.Jeffries who confirmed this and put new box on under warranty....it is achillies heel but good dealers will support this as fact.......... it cant all be perfect:D
 
Gearbox revival - Outcome?

Al,

Been looking at this thread & your problem sounds similar to mine.
Bike (2003 GS Adv) in for 6000 Service on Friday.
No prob on 12 mile ride home.
In to work this morning going up through the gears O.K but no downshift.
The lever seemed to lose all feel. Could occasionally get lucky and get it down a gear but no 2nd and 1st until stationary.
When in 5th at standstill I could get first with one dab on the lever!!
No outcome on this thread but I reckon your prob could be the same as mine.
Bike back at dealers............no report yet.

Cheers

Cam.
 
blind bastard

Right,

Actually read this thread properly now and searched under "gear lever" as suggested.

Cheers

Cam:thumb
 
Oh dear this is very similar to my "sloppy gear lever" problem. Mine is also a 2000 1150 and mine's done 24,000 miles so it sounds like a possible gearbox weakness that BMW won't admit to :mad: .

However, it seems to have improved after tightening the linkages so it's crossed fingers and watch this space.

Cheers

Dick
 
i think you might find it to be something as simple as the lever that comes off the splined gear change shaft has worked its way along said shaft and is about to fall off.Slacken the pinch bolt & move it back along the shaft.
Roger - can't believe A Jefferies charged £40 to sort out the bush out of the gearbox because you have to strip the box to do it.Its more likely to have been the gear lever pivot bush off the footrest.The jumping out of top gear was down to one of the selector drum tracks , but can also happen if your gear lever is set too high -try lowering it to get a more positive selection
 
The first thing I would say to anyone experiencing gearbox problems is don’t ride the bike until you’ve found out what the problem is. If it turns out to be just a linkage problem then great, if it doesn’t then if far safer not to ride.

I started to experience a metallic ticking noise when letting the clutch out in neutral on Friday afternoon after a 350 mile ride up the A1. The noise, although a little concerning, wasn’t too bad so I decided to continue with my trip around Scotland. The noise got progressively worse over the course of the following day and I also started to hear a whine from the gearbox which I had read about but never experienced before. Towards the end of the day I started to experience problems shifting between 5 and 6th. The bike has previously suffered with jumping out of E shortly after changing up and had occasionally failed to down change but it was happening all the time now. I could also hear a grating noise coming from the gearbox. At this point I really should have stopped riding the thing but being an idiot I decided to carry on. The following day after another 200 miles I went to change into 5th and found nothing other than a nasty noise. 5th gear had quite simply disappeared. All other gears appeared to be fine. I rode the bike 200 miles back to the hotel using mainly 4th and E which was interesting. Double up-changing from 4th to E was fine but going down from E to 4th was almost impossible – lots of nasty noises and a good 10 seconds to find the gear. The following day I decided to limp the bike for the rest of the trip. I mainly cruised at about 55mph in 4th but occasionally up-shifted to E for stints of 80mph. Coming into a 30mph limit, I down changed and the gearbox and rear wheel locked solid. I skidded to a stop. A couple of mates helped me drag the bike off the road and I called recovery. Getting a GS with a locked rear wheel into the back of a transit van proved to be an interesting experience as did the 600 mile drive south!

In retrospect, I was very very lucky, prior to the gearbox seizing in the 30mph limit I had been riding an extremely twisty national speed limit road – if it had gone bang then I would have been in serious trouble. A few mates did warn me not to ride but I decided to ignore their advice. The gearbox had just over 30,000 miles on it, admittedly I haven’t been the most sympathetic of riders – I’ve pulled the odd wheelie, ridden the bike offroad and given it a fair amount of stick on the road but still I feel that 30,000 miles is simply not good enough. Prior to buying the GS I had owned numerous Honda Africa Twins – I gave my Africa’s far more abuse than the GS ever gets, did 3 times the mileage and never once experienced a problem. It seems BMW gearboxes simply aren’t up to the job and quite frankly they’re bloody dangerous – I could have quite easily have ended up dead. I’d go back to Honda but the GS is just so much fun to ride.

Luckily I have a spare gearbox waiting in the garage – I saw it advertised online last year and having read about gearbox problems on this site and the ADVrider site I thought it would be a wise purchase. I also have a GS riding mate who’s going to help me change the gearbox over. It’s going on tonight so I’ll report back once it’s sorted.

My bike isn’t in warranty and has no dealer servicing so it’s not really worth me complaining to the dealer but if you experience any gearbox problems as described above and your bike is warranty or has FSH, print out this thread, take it to your dealer and demand a new gearbox – you are risking your life if you don’t.
 

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Predicters right.
New bush & a quick grease up....good as new ;)

Tobinated on Sunday (hopefully)

Northern Ireland Wednesday

:beer:

Cheers
 
motomartin said:
not bad for a few squirts of wd-40 and re-tightening the pivots and aligning the linkages.

Probably took - oooh - 5 mins tops ?

Phil

Please has anyone a picture or page in the Haynes manual to look into this ?

Just been for a ride and experiencing stuck in 5th/6th, could be a coincidence but washed my bike on Sunday and not ridden since.

When engine stopped and on centre stand can change back down to first no problem, after setting off again problem re-occurs but won't go back from 3rd.

Luckily was only 15 miles from home on clear but 40/50 limited roads with no stops.

After parking up all appears normal again.:confused:
 
Found this picture, I guess its items 7, 8 and 9 that get to seize up ?

gear_linkage.jpg
 
gcp said:
Found this picture, I guess its items 7, 8 and 9 that get to seize up ?

gear_linkage.jpg

Give part 5 a lube as well. You need to remove two wire clips, one at each end, before pulling the sockets off your balls.....:rolleyes: Pop some grease in each end & put it back together
 


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