1200 GS bolt kits?

[Lemon]

I'm looking for a bolt kit for changing some of the older looking bolts on a 1200 GS. Are there pre made kits available? Want to include the caliper bolts. Maybe there's a list already and it's cheaper to buy separates?

Let me know if you have any insight thank you kindly


(I found an overpriced kit online and also some random kits on ebay but unsure which ones are recommended and what I need for calipers etc, a list to copy would be ideal)

 

[MartinK]

I've always used Shaw Stainless

Stainless Steel Bleed Nipples | Bmw Stainless Steel | Stainless Steel Fasteners | Spilsby | Chris Shaw Engineering

Here at Chris Shaw Engineering we offer a wide range of stainless steel bleed nipples, bmw stainless steel, stainless steel fasteners and much more.

www.shawstainless.co.uk

He also does the odd sizes for bevel drive oil fill and drain plugs etc . .

 

[Santa-2512]

I'm looking for a bolt kit for changing some of the older looking bolts on a 1200 GS. Are there pre made kits available? Want to include the caliper bolts. Maybe there's a list already and it's cheaper to buy separates?

Let me know if you have any insight thank you kindly


(I found an overpriced kit online and also some random kits on ebay but unsure which ones are recommended and what I need for calipers etc, a list to copy would be ideal)

A lot of BMW bolts etc are non standard

They may look the same, but have subtle differences in pitch etc

 

[Santa-2512]

I've always used Shaw Stainless

Stainless Steel Bleed Nipples | Bmw Stainless Steel | Stainless Steel Fasteners | Spilsby | Chris Shaw Engineering

Here at Chris Shaw Engineering we offer a wide range of stainless steel bleed nipples, bmw stainless steel, stainless steel fasteners and much more.

www.shawstainless.co.uk

He also does the odd sizes for bevel drive oil fill and drain plugs etc . .

I though stainless was frowned on these days ??

 

[Slipperyeel]

A lot of BMW bolts etc are non standard

They may look the same, but have subtle differences in pitch etc

+1 for this

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[er-minio]

Watching this thread as I might have to replace a lot of fasteners this winter.

 

[walkingpictures]

I though stainless was frowned on these days ??

I put a lot of stainless bols on my Guzzi Le Mans many years ago,never had any problems.Then again,don't remember things like titanium bolts were available then.

 

[Santa-2512]

I put a lot of stainless bols on my Guzzi Le Mans many years ago,never had any problems.Then again,don't remember things like titanium bolts were available then.

Probably because they were like for like fasteners,

 

[Steptoe]

A lot of BMW bolts etc are non standard

They may look the same, but have subtle differences in pitch etc

I though stainless was frowned on these days ??

Rubbish, I used to make up and sell stainless kits for both the 1150 and 1200 models, including brake disc and caliber bolts. I sold hundreds of them . The kits weighed 2kgs , used to sell them for £56 a complete kit. Every now and again a kit surfaces for sale, the owner only fitted a couple of bolts, as it’s a big job to use them all, as I mentioned couple months ago I still have boxes of stainless bolts, nuts and washers. Just got fed up assembling the complete bike kits Here’s a kit that appeared earlier in the year https://www.ukgser.com/community/th...-from-steptoe-never-used.389090/#post-5430558.

 

[Steptoe]

Here you go, fill your boots. Remove the bolt(s)you need replacing, measure it and away you go http://www.londonstainless.com/fasteners/fasteners.asp

 

[Slipperyeel]

I'm looking for a bolt kit for changing some of the older looking bolts on a 1200 GS. Are there pre made kits available? Want to include the caliper bolts. Maybe there's a list already and it's cheaper to buy separates?

Let me know if you have any insight thank you kindly


(I found an overpriced kit online and also some random kits on ebay but unsure which ones are recommended and what I need for calipers etc, a list to copy would be ideal)

Just be mindful that aluminium and stainless will bond together... Doesn't take long either, a year, maybe less depending on where you live. So some anti-corrosion paste, maybe just cooper grease, should be used.

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[Santa-2512]

Rubbish, I used to make up and sell stainless kits for both the 1150 and 1200 models, including brake disc and caliber bolts. I sold hundreds of them . The kits weighed 2kgs , used to sell them for £56 a complete kit. Every now and again a kit surfaces for sale, the owner only fitted a couple of bolts, as it’s a big job to use them all, as I mentioned couple months ago I still have boxes of stainless bolts, nuts and washers. Just got fed up assembling the complete bike kits Here’s a kit that appeared earlier in the year https://www.ukgser.com/community/th...-from-steptoe-never-used.389090/#post-5430558. View attachment 330213

I'll counter your opening gambit, with an explanation as to why i made the statement

Back in the 80's / 90's Stainless steel bolts suddenly became popular and as above kits were available for just about every bike going

Loads of bods fitted kits, and then they found out that in certain applications Stainless bolts are not a good idea

Stainless has less tensile strength than a std bolt and should not be used in areas where they may be subject to high loading

if i remember there were numourus reports of brake calipers / levers bolts snapping under load , hence they fell out of favour

I think they moved on to cheap titanium fixings after that .

 

[Santa-2512]

Just be mindful that aluminium and stainless will bond together... Doesn't take long either, a year, maybe less depending on where you live. So some anti-corrosion paste, maybe just cooper grease, should be used.

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I did think of galvanic corrosion too

Stainless & Magnesium are not at the good ends of the table add some water and it's a recipie for interest

 

[Steptoe]

I'll counter your opening gambit, with an explanation as to why i made the statement

Back in the 80's / 90's Stainless steel bolts suddenly became popular and as above kits were available for just about every bike going

Loads of bods fitted kits, and then they found out that in certain applications Stainless bolts are not a good idea

Stainless has less tensile strength than a std bolt and should not be used in areas where they may be subject to high loading

if i remember there were numourus reports of brake calipers / levers bolts snapping under load , hence they fell out of favour

I think they moved on to cheap titanium fixings after that .

Well in my real world experience I’ve never had any problems with the hundreds of kits I’ve sold. There are also different grades of stainless available. And in my instruction leaflets with the kits people were told to use anti-seize paste/grease

 

[Ianak]

There's some bollox talked on here I've been a marine engineer building power boats for 40 years and stainless is used everywhere and immersed in salt water which is about as corrosive as it gets and yes it does corrode and in the most un likely places and when it does you replace it its called servicing most on here only keep a bike until the next new model comes out

 

[Santa-2512]

There's some bollox talked on here I've been a marine engineer building power boats for 40 years and stainless is used everywhere and immersed in salt water which is about as corrosive as it gets and yes it does corrode and in the most un likely places and when it does you replace it its called servicing most on here only keep a bike until the next new model comes out

Inddeed, but ironically there the ones who farkle the most

Ive done 3 stints working for marine companys, Saftey, lesure & heavy , Like any industry, you get those who do, and those who dont when it comes to servicing

And i'd say the latter is more prevalant

 

[Santa-2512]

Well in my real world experience I’ve never had any problems with the hundreds of kits I’ve sold. There are also different grades of stainless available. And in my instruction leaflets with the kits people were told to use anti-seize paste/grease

Yup and you can bet your bottom dollar, that most of the cheap kits in the 80's were for the lower grade stuff (cheaper )

 

[Ianak]

Stainless Steel bolts are not High Tensile if you want shinny bolts in an HT application get some 12.9's and get them plated
A2 Stainless is the lower grade and A4 the higher and the quality in part is related to its ability to withstand bleeding which leads to unsightly discolouration

 

[Slipperyeel]

There's some bollox talked on here I've been a marine engineer building power boats for 40 years and stainless is used everywhere and immersed in salt water which is about as corrosive as it gets and yes it does corrode and in the most un likely places and when it does you replace it its called servicing most on here only keep a bike until the next new model comes out

You're right, stainless will corroded and rust, even 316. But where's the bx part?

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[Pukmeister]

A4 stainless is comparable in tensile strength to 8.8 steel. (I personally wouldn’t fit A2 stainless on a bike as it is considerably weaker.)

I’m also a marine engineer with 40 years experience, and I’ve enjoyed more than my fair share of drilling out stainless fasteners in aluminium (almost as bad as drilling out sheared nimonic alloy bolts in a gas turbine exhaust annulus).