1200 or 1250 clear mind

You won’t need that box of tricks if you buy a 1250, it’s already very flexible with bags of torque at low rpm, 30mph in 6th in cruise no problem!
It has more than enough power with loads of mid-range wallop where the 1200 is a bit thin. You’ll find it really is a sublime motor....pretty dam near perfect in my eyes.
Oh, and when you want to overtake, you don’t need to drop a cog, you just open the throttle :bounce1
 
Winjar said:
I had in my mind to maybe put a fix on my 1200 to save change to 1250, but after reading below, it help me see the 1250 really is the best bike, and nothing needed to be done, it is the perfect bike, I will wait till they fix young problems and then change for sure.

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesoci...p-power-commander-rapid-bike-tuning-explained
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What do you feel needs fixing? Unless you desperately need more power why change. Have you ridden the 1250?
Yes, it is smoother and stronger, better? depends what you want. I think it is in danger of losing the big twin character, And yes I have tried the 1250 in the GS,R and RT. The R is the most fun.
It won't make your ride quicker unless you are using yours to the max all the time. Upgrade the suspension and enjoy money saved on tyres and hotels.
Take the 1250 out on a long test ride and see if you think the difference is worth the thousands of euros it will cost to upgrade.
 
I was blown away by the way the 1250R goes on a long test ride (200 miles). So I bought a 1200R instead to see if I could live with it. I still think the 1200R goes better than the GS.
 
CPJS said:
What do you feel needs fixing? Unless you desperately need more power why change. Have you ridden the 1250?
Yes, it is smoother and stronger, better? depends what you want. I think it is in danger of losing the big twin character, And yes I have tried the 1250 in the GS,R and RT. The R is the most fun.
It won't make your ride quicker unless you are using yours to the max all the time. Upgrade the suspension and enjoy money saved on tyres and hotels.
Take the 1250 out on a long test ride and see if you think the difference is worth the thousands of euros it will cost to upgrade.
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Yes that is the problem I tried the 1250 and find it really better and smoother gears, but you are really correct do I need it, or do I reed to much hear and konfuse myselve.
 
batman1 said:
You won’t need that box of tricks if you buy a 1250, it’s already very flexible with bags of torque at low rpm, 30mph in 6th in cruise no problem!
It has more than enough power with loads of mid-range wallop where the 1200 is a bit thin. You’ll find it really is a sublime motor....pretty dam near perfect in my eyes.
Oh, and when you want to overtake, you don’t need to drop a cog, you just open the throttle :bounce1
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Yes agre no box of trick needed it is very different bike, but always problem more money, maybe I change shocks and be happy.
 
As CPJS asks, What are you trying to fix??

Perhaps you need to clarify what you’re looking for first?

Why fit new shockers, are the old ones knackered?

What year is your current bike as the GS-LC’s have become incrementally better with each model upgrade with each year, my 2018 1200 was a lovely bike.
 
My R1200GSA Goldilocks bike only really needed a couple of upgrades

- Shocks
- Seat
- Windscreen
- Wheels
- Exhaust & Headers
- Handguards
- Crash Bars

Now its perfect :thumb2
 
The new 1250 is better than the 1200 , no loss of the big twin feeling , more of the better big twin feeling . As I have said before, I would not have a 1200 now after the 1250 , backward step . Sorry to offend the 1200 owners but time and tech moves on and it’s better . Simples
 
stick said:
The new 1250 is better than the 1200 , no loss of the big twin feeling , more of the better big twin feeling . As I have said before, I would not have a 1200 now after the 1250 , backward step . Sorry to offend the 1200 owners but time and tech moves on and it’s better . Simples
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Apologies accepted.
There comes a time in every mans life........
For me at the heart is the question - will I upgrade every two years, or can I spend half the money and keep up?
I think Warlord and I an on the same page with this.
 
After 3 years with the 1200 I still get a grin when I pull away from a decent corner. I do find the 1200 bag of nails noise a bit wearing though (even with buds), and the low speed fueling is a bit crap. It's also the case that you sometimes have to cap your ambitions for certain overtakes. For me, improvements for these would be especially the reason for trading up, as well as perhaps not having to shift up and down the low gears so much when country-roading. However, nobody is seeing my wallet before the next gen, which surely will be upon the horizon in another 12 mths.
 
stick said:
The new 1250 is better than the 1200 , no loss of the big twin feeling , more of the better big twin feeling . As I have said before, I would not have a 1200 now after the 1250 , backward step . Sorry to offend the 1200 owners but time and tech moves on and it’s better . Simples
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I second all of the above, definitely no loss of the big twin feeling, just more of it.
 
stick said:
The new 1250 is better than the 1200 , no loss of the big twin feeling , more of the better big twin feeling . As I have said before, I would not have a 1200 now after the 1250 , backward step . Sorry to offend the 1200 owners but time and tech moves on and it’s better . Simples
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If you equate faster in a straight line to be better then the 1250 is better.
If a rider does not use all the 1200 has to offer and has no desire to ride faster between the corners then the 1250 is a waste of money.
For me corners have always been the fun part, not the bit between. I would have no more fun on the 1250.
 
To chop in a 2018 GSA for a 2020 1250 GSA it equates to £6100 plus my bike. Im not exactly convinced the 1250, with its new technology, is worth it as the 1200gsa is still a superb bike......... anyone done it and regret the change?
 
Having extensively ridden r1250gs/gsa's on three occasions back to back with my 2018 r1200gsa , yes it is smoother and revvier and if I still had my 2014 model gsa with its crap esa, clunky gearbox, horrendous gsap,illlegible speedo,failing switchgear etc it would be worth the money to upgrade.
However, the ergonomics are identical and as my 2018 bike has all of the above improvements and for the way I ride (and because I pay cash for my bikes and own rather than rent them ) it does not justify the £6000 to £7000 premium I would have to fork out for a 1250.
Just my opinion if I bought a 1250 I would then end up losing £1000's as soon as I left the dealers, instead I bought a second bike that I can run for a couple of years and probably only lose £1000 on it and keep the miles down on the 1200 and use it for Continental Touring
 
Markyboy said:
To chop in a 2018 GSA for a 2020 1250 GSA it equates to £6100 plus my bike. Im not exactly convinced the 1250, with its new technology, is worth it as the 1200gsa is still a superb bike......... anyone done it and regret the change?
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I’ve done the same switch (GS rather than GSA) to a lightly used 1250. I absolutely love my 1250 but I can’t help thinking I would have got better value for money (ie smiles per £) if I’d kept the 1200 and bought a Royal Enfield Interceptor as a plaything.
 
Tricuspid said:
I’ve done the same switch (GS rather than GSA) to a lightly used 1250. I absolutely love my 1250 but I can’t help thinking I would have got better value for money (ie smiles per £) if I’d kept the 1200 and bought a Royal Enfield Interceptor as a plaything.
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Indeed, I am going for a demo tomorrow on the Moto Guzzi v7.
 
Neil12GS said:
Will be a cheaper swap to go this route.
North Oxford have a number of 20 plate 1250 GSA’s, good spec with 10 miles from £16400
GS from £15600

https://approvedused.bmw-motorrad.co.uk/UK/22993/detail.cshtml?on=441299

https://approvedused.bmw-motorrad.co.uk/UK/22993/detail.cshtml?on=440141
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Hi Neil, yes I saw these but if I were to change Id go for the GSA it would be in the Rallye Colour scheme which is always much more.
How about KTM 1290 Super Adventure R at £12999 for a change or KTM790 Adventure R at £10999. If I do change I think the KTM is better value at the moment
 
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