1200gs won't start....help!

[ExpatinIstanbul]

That's what I was thinking. There's no chance of borrowing a battery, as I don't really know many other owners here and anyway, the one I have is still under warranty so should be swapped out by BMW. I'll pick up an energiser anyway, as I'll be keeping the bike for a while yet and so will always have it as a spare if it's not needed now.

 

[luckylucian]

I'd buy and carry a spare fuel pump relay anyway, a 2 minute job to change and you are on your way again

 

[ExpatinIstanbul]

Bought the relay yesterday, but BMW insist on me trying the battery after they've charged it, before they'll swap it under warranty. So I now have to wait until later today to try and see if the relay was the problem. This is turning into a bit of a saga now.

 

[ExpatinIstanbul]

New battery in, test with old relay....it no work. New relay in....it work. Me go ride.

 

[1Rider]

Enjoy

New battery in, test with old relay....it no work. New relay in....it work. Me go ride.

Enjoy life

 

[tigerjohn]

Sounds like this fuel pump relay is a necessary bit of kit on a tour. Forgive my ignorance, but what does it look like, where does it go, how do you fit it and what does it cost?
Tried to spot it on www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fiche but couldn't see it!

 

[John Armstrong]

http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fiche/MainDiagrams.asp?mospid=49382

Daigram #16

Item 06 16147708312 fuel pump, electronic

AFAIK

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

New relay in....it work. Me go ride.

Andres

 

[ExpatinIstanbul]

http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fiche/MainDiagrams.asp?mospid=49382

Daigram #16

Item 06 16147708312 fuel pump, electronic

AFAIK

To be more detailed:

No: 6 on the diagram. You get a relay, a seal and two screws. It cost me 120 euros here in Turkey. There is a bypass possible, which is described on a thread here somewhere. I intend to put put together one of these, as it'll be small enough to carry and will get you home, if not be a perfectly usable permanent solution.

If you remove the left side panel (sitting on the bike), you'll see a big plastic cap at the top, it's the only thing there. Pull of the cap and you'll see a finned unit held in with two screws and a wired plug going into into it. Undo and remove the screws first, as then it's much easier to remove the plug. Under the unit there's also another couple of wires plugged into the base of the pump well (the space under the relay). It's a really simple job to replace the relay, just make sure the seal is seated correctly when installing a new unit.

When to know you need a new one:

My bike was turning over, and almost catching sometimes, but wouldn't start. There was no clicking and no warning light.

Be careful when removing the side panel, as the bottom left (looking straight on) can sometimes be a bit awkward. The trick when replacing the side panel is to not force it, just wiggle things around until they find their seat. Sorry if this is teaching about sucking eggs, but this was my first time and I thought it better to describe it as though it was the same for someone else.

 

[Shep]

To be more detailed:

No: 6 on the diagram. You get a relay, a seal and two screws. It cost me 120 euros here in Turkey. There is a bypass possible, which is described on a thread here somewhere. I intend to put put together one of these, as it'll be small enough to carry and will get you home, if not be a perfectly usable permanent solution.

Glad to hear your up and running, shame its a couple of days late

Nice to meet you and well done for staying with us at the session in the pub, not easy sometimes Good pictures to come from the night

Shep

 

[Ross Dean]

Even if it has nothing to do with the jet wash......

If you are going to jet wash your bike.........Then you have to be very, very careful about the strength of the jet or the distance from the bike, then be very selective where you point it at. I have on three occasions washed the bike with a jet wash because of the condition (dirt,sand etc) it was in.

I would never ever give it to someone else to do.............

I agree with all the above but confess to jet washing my 1100GS frequently - after every trip over this past winter (got a jet wash for Christmas ). Just use a very gentle setting on the electrics and anything else that looks delicate ... though not much is delicate on a typical GS . The bike is in good shape for a machine that has done 36,000 miles and regular cleaning helps - but I am not patient enough to wash and wax by hand.

 

[ExpatinIstanbul]

Glad to hear your up and running, shame its a couple of days late

Nice to meet you and well done for staying with us at the session in the pub, not easy sometimes Good pictures to come from the night

Shep

Had a great night too, wife wasn't overjoyed at the time I got back, or the state I was in, but the hangover was worse so I managed to blank her out. Good bunch of blokes you lot.

 

[steggy]

Fuel and Ring Main Spare's a must for 1200s

Fuel pump relay a must as a spare when traveling further afield than walking distance from home.. i recommend everyone should carry one and the ring main thingy where the key goes into....a trip into africa would have gone tits up for me had i not carried them as it was i didnt need them but the peace of mind i had was good that was untill i droped the bike in a sandy pothole along a corragation track and broke my clutch lever holder which is made of totaly thin crap alloy ....Taught me to ride slower and enjoy the bumps.....