1200GSA extended warranty option - any opinions?
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Paulenglish
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Warranty Extension
I have just paid the £310 for the years extra warranty on my 06 12GS- problems to date EWS and fuel relay- this thread has made me think- I would never have considered paying for an extended warranty on a japanese bike. All the tales of failures and problems have made me ultra cautious + BMW's cavalier attitude to safety issues - like the bike cutting out on the M6- really has dented my confidence in the GS
I have just paid the £310 for the years extra warranty on my 06 12GS- problems to date EWS and fuel relay- this thread has made me think- I would never have considered paying for an extended warranty on a japanese bike. All the tales of failures and problems have made me ultra cautious + BMW's cavalier attitude to safety issues - like the bike cutting out on the M6- really has dented my confidence in the GS
LiquidLAN
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I've not read all of the posting, seems to be a fair few people with something to say...
as for me, I've had a whole series of problems with mine so I took out the warranty and in fact went for the bells and whistles options - not long after my 12 GSA was back in to have the rear shock replaced, I'd say its been pretty good value for money.
you might be lucky though and your bike might be one after they slowed production down in focused on quality, but its still good value for money imho
All that said, I hope no-one think/knows you've ridden off road because all your warranty would then be invalid... so delete any pics etc you might have posted...
as for me, I've had a whole series of problems with mine so I took out the warranty and in fact went for the bells and whistles options - not long after my 12 GSA was back in to have the rear shock replaced, I'd say its been pretty good value for money.
you might be lucky though and your bike might be one after they slowed production down in focused on quality, but its still good value for money imho
All that said, I hope no-one think/knows you've ridden off road because all your warranty would then be invalid... so delete any pics etc you might have posted...
Glad to keep you lot amused
The chap asked about extending his warranty and I answered
All GS's have seal problems, irrespective of genre
However i was speaking as I see it, maybe subjectively
I had a 12GSA & wished that I'd liked it (because it was a great purchase deal) but didn't and that was only personal to me. If I'd have liked it, I could have sold all my other BMWs and now been sat on a wad of cash
I wasn't knocking for knocking's sake................I might buy a HP2 in the near future, BUT I wouldn't own a HP2 with no warranty cover.............IMHO
I'm with JB on this.
I have bought the extended warranty on my 1200GSA, as it seemed reasonable for about a £1 day.
Will I ever need it? Feck knows, but if I do I have got it, along with a fuel pump controller and a ring antenna. I have other assorted bits (puncture repair, reasonable simple tool kit - link on this site, compressor, torch, assorted cable ties, tool to get the front wheel off, front wheel stand, alternator belt puller, jump leads, spare fused electrical wire, some electrical joining whatsits, gaffer tape, indicator bulb, plastic metal, araldite, and copies of assorted useful hints and tips lifted from this site and AdRider) and just about enough basic sense to use them.
I take the bits on each of my holidays, so:
(a) As others can use them, too.
(b) I would rather try to fix a problem myself if I can, rather than wait.
But if the crank goes or the suspension collapses I am not going to even try. Why, because I can't mend the crank and I'm on holiday. I would rather have a hire car and let BuMW sort it out, bringing the bike back to me at my convenience.
As I hardly ride in the UK, the European cover is important to me. Whilst it does double up, the recovery package is better from Europe than the AA's Breakdown cover and, of course, the AA's policy does not include parts. I do though need the AA package as I go to Europe in vehicles other than my trusty BuMW steed.
Now, start playing nicely children, please.
Just for the record. I LIKE Johnnyboxer .... didn't want any misunderstanding.
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You're on my Xmas card list too....................hope i'm on Bob Southgates
slojon
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Look, I have a 2005GS, I got the extended warranty 'cause I'm a worry wart. I used it a couple of times for small things in the last year but they covered the cost of the warranty. One small thing I found in the last week of the warranty period. It was fixed without fuss after the time was up. I'd go there again with my new bike. If you want to sell it, you have warranty to trade with the bike. That has to be worth the cost alone. It was about $450 Aus.
BBB61
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You're on my Xmas card list too....................hope i'm on Bob Southgates
Put it this way Johnny, you're not on my hit list
At least you can enter into a good debate and not get arsey about it, unlike that obnoxious little turd AdamA. Thank goodness for the ignore feature.
Yes, Just got my quote through the post today for 310 pounds and in the same position. Mine is an 05 plate and has been very reliable. I get it serviced by a local ex BMW guy, so not sure if BMW will accept that for their warranty purposes. I guess you have to weigh up the costs when they go wrong.
Fanum
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Put it this way Johnny, you're not on my hit list
Can't you guys play nicely ???
Having unwittingly been working as a development rider for BuMW since 2004 (without pay after spending ten grand !!), I hope my bike has revealed enough faults for them and had them improved/cured by now to make it a long-term prospect. I definitely can't afford to buy another one. I'd expect anything else to be covered for free after my earlier experiences. I'm not paying out more for an extended warranty.
I just pray that any other failures I experience are straightforward ones of relatively low cost eg FPC/EWS antenna. If anything major occurred I would probably have to break the bike and ebay it.
Faults so far:
MAJOR
Final Drive replacement x2
Front timing cover x2
Fuel Pump controller x1
Gearbox/engine oil seal replacement x1
MINOR
Slipping clutch (level in reservoir)
Power socket replacement x1(corroded wiring)
Aux socket CANBUS software update x3
Headlamp bulb x2
Having unwittingly been working as a development rider for BuMW since 2004 (without pay after spending ten grand !!), I hope my bike has revealed enough faults for them and had them improved/cured by now to make it a long-term prospect. I definitely can't afford to buy another one. I'd expect anything else to be covered for free after my earlier experiences. I'm not paying out more for an extended warranty.
I just pray that any other failures I experience are straightforward ones of relatively low cost eg FPC/EWS antenna. If anything major occurred I would probably have to break the bike and ebay it.
Faults so far:
MAJOR
Final Drive replacement x2
Front timing cover x2
Fuel Pump controller x1
Gearbox/engine oil seal replacement x1
MINOR
Slipping clutch (level in reservoir)
Power socket replacement x1(corroded wiring)
Aux socket CANBUS software update x3
Headlamp bulb x2
Put it this way Johnny, you're not on my hit list
Please do show me where I got arsey with anyone.
Oh you can't cos you have me on ignore.
Pay for the extended warranty as I did; I took my 2006 GS in for service at 11k miles and found I needed an ABS pump and oil seal replaced with a possible bill for £1700, best £361 ever spent. Take a look at my thread. "How to spend £361 and save £1700" Seriously one breakdown and you've covered the cost!
coolhands
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yet if you hadn't taken it in, you would've spent, errr.. nothing and hence saved yourself £361
How bad are these oil-seal leaks if no-one notices them except for when they crawl around underneath their bike?
Have none of you ever owned a landrover, or ford escort or some other crappy vehicle & simply not worried about the odd oil leak?On that basis it makes the warranty cost expensive, since you're only using it to fix faults that otherwise you wouldn't because of the excessive cost.
yet if you hadn't taken it in, you would've spent, errr.. nothing and hence saved yourself £361
How bad are these oil-seal leaks if no-one notices them except for when they crawl around underneath their bike?
On that basis it makes the warranty cost expensive, since you're only using it to fix faults that otherwise you wouldn't because of the excessive cost.
Great first post, you should fit in quite well, and welcome to the forum.
....my warranty ran out in Sept this year and just before it expired I got a whole pile of warranty work done, from fuel pump electric's to new throttle bodies....
...Bike was running like a sweetie....
...decided to extend the warranty as a single claim would probable cover the price of the policy....
3 days after the warranty expired, my starter switch & relay failed, I forget what else was found but that one claim, paid for my 1 year policy for parts alone....
...currently got intermitent problem with my dash....Will deal with this in the new year when the dealer comes back from holiday...
Its a no brainer & you can pay it over the tear...
...Bike was running like a sweetie....
...decided to extend the warranty as a single claim would probable cover the price of the policy....
3 days after the warranty expired, my starter switch & relay failed, I forget what else was found but that one claim, paid for my 1 year policy for parts alone....
...currently got intermitent problem with my dash....Will deal with this in the new year when the dealer comes back from holiday...
Its a no brainer & you can pay it over the tear...
....Beware the evils of extended credit..... It's people like you that have brought (and bought) this once proud nation to its knees. Lots of people on this site think that anyone who cannot afford something should not buy it all...
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How do you get the dealer to do that for you? I went to my dealer asking for that and they just told me everything was fine
....Beware the evils of extended credit..... It's people like you that have brought (and bought) this once proud nation to its knees. Lots of people on this site think that anyone who cannot afford something should not buy it all...
So true
yet if you hadn't taken it in, you would've spent, errr.. nothing and hence saved yourself £361
How bad are these oil-seal leaks if no-one notices them except for when they crawl around underneath their bike?
On that basis it makes the warranty cost expensive, since you're only using it to fix faults that otherwise you wouldn't because of the excessive cost.
Thanks for the "constructive" comment Coolhands, firstly I took the bike in because it needed a service and the ABS was making an aweful grinding noise every time I braked, also I would expect my dealer to spot any oil leaks on my bike...that's why I take it to a dealer for service and not have it cocked up by some inexperienced chancer! It's also known as preventative maintenance in the hope that I don't break down on my 190 mile commute.
Have I ever owned a leaking Landrover or Escort? Oh yes indeed; of the 60 plus vehicles i have owned over the years many were £30 bangers with leaks galore but I have alwasys prided myself on trying my best to ensure my vehicles were roadworthy and if possible in good running order and if that meant I repaired or paid someone to repair my vehicles then that's what happened!
coolhands
Registered user
My point is simply that anyone with an extended warrenty is more likely to 'need' it since they will want any problems fixed. (I'm not arguing against this BTW).
But, whether an extended warrenty is value for money is more debatable since some problems (eg minor leaks) can be lived with. So for people to claim they were fortunate to have a warrenty because they used it to sort an oil leak problem that costs £700 (or whatever) to fix, is rather disingenuous. They could have lived with the problem and saved £300 warrenty cost. i.e. it isn't necessarily good value for money.
Replacement of the abs pump (at a rather astounding £1200 for the part alone) means that for you the warrenty was worth it.
But, whether an extended warrenty is value for money is more debatable since some problems (eg minor leaks) can be lived with. So for people to claim they were fortunate to have a warrenty because they used it to sort an oil leak problem that costs £700 (or whatever) to fix, is rather disingenuous. They could have lived with the problem and saved £300 warrenty cost. i.e. it isn't necessarily good value for money.
Replacement of the abs pump (at a rather astounding £1200 for the part alone) means that for you the warrenty was worth it.
What a curious view to take.
The person buying the extended warranty can have no possible idea at all what problems (if any) they are going to encounter over the lifetime of the warranty policy. If there are no problems at all, then of course they had no need for it. But that is the same for any contract of indemnity and taking all the benefit of the certainty of hindsight.
Should a problem occur, it makes no odds at all what it is. If it's a crank failure (multiple hundreds) or a leaking oil seal (a few pounds) it is covered, so it makes sense to claim under the policy and have it fixed, surely?
Of course some problems are more serious than others. The failed oil seal can / might be 'lived with' but the broken crank, can't be dismissed so lightly. That the broken oil seal will, if not fixed, lead to some other - probably more serious problem - if not addressed would seem, to me at least, to be a very good reason to get it fixed. If the bod has the all embracing insurance, why not go ahead, claim and get it fixed If he doesn't have the insurance, why 'live with it', if it can be mended quite simply? But that of course is true of many things in life.
Of course, how you value the premium charged for the extended warranty is another matter entirely. I believe that sales of extended warranty when the premium was about £630 were quite low. Now that the underwriters have dropped the premium to about £350 (less than a £1 a day) the sales have gone up. What effect this has on the underwriter's loss record is, of course, unknown to us. But someone will know, that's for sure.
