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I wonder how the exhaust is gonna hold up to off-roading and deep ruts coming out of the bottom of the cylinder like that... I feel like I frequently get bottom of the cylinders muddy...

Looks like the cylinders are now higher up on the bike (see how there is now room to mount the oil filter underneath the left hand pot) which would increase ground clearance but may effect the balance of the bike :nenau

Looks like an interesting evolution of the GS - could well be tempted once it has been out a couple of years and they have ironed out the teething problems :thumb
 
Is it possible they're also consolidating with the K bikes who have the left?

Do the K bikes have a wet clutch? They sell far more GS bikes than K so if it was a simple case of consolidating I think the K would be like the GS. By the way the 13 K has many of the same internal part numbers in the FD so it's not because it is stronger.
Nothing saying you can't run an engine in the other direction right enough but I have only ever seen it done on boats and aircraft with multiple engines.
Yes the pots seem to be a good bit higher and there are some theories that the alternator is bellow the crank now. Maybe something to do with the new gearbox and keeping the back low so you have somewhere to sit? It does mean more weight higher up though which is never a good thing IMHO.
Course the engine rendering could be bolox but S-Kraft do work for BMW and it does tie in with the pictures of the bike.
 
Do the K bikes have a wet clutch? They sell far more GS bikes than K so if it was a simple case of consolidating I think the K would be like the GS. By the way the 13 K has many of the same internal part numbers in the FD so it's not because it is stronger.

Yes, the K1200/1300 range have wet clutches (mine was changed under warranty :( )
 
Do the K bikes have a wet clutch?

Yes... The across the frame ones (since 2005) have wet clutches.

I agree with waiting a while to let them iron out the issues too. I had an 06 K1200GT. A number of recalls went through, all sorted well enough but it's an inconvenience. Most were minor except the airbox which caused the bikes to over-rev in some conditions (about 3000 rpm which was not fun!!)
 
It does mean more weight higher up though which is never a good thing IMHO.
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I agree. However, I can't see it being anything but a cracking bike. I may be being naive but I can't see BMW making a balls up of their best selling bike.
 
Yes... The across the frame ones (since 2005) have wet clutches.

I agree with waiting a while to let them iron out the issues too. I had an 06 K1200GT. A number of recalls went through, all sorted well enough but it's an inconvenience. Most were minor except the airbox which caused the bikes to over-rev in some conditions (about 3000 rpm which was not fun!!)

Apart from the clutch, my 06 K1200S also had the airbox, camchain tensioner, front balljoints, front brake discs, brake servo, rear suspension linkage and gear position indicator changed under warranty :eek:

My 2009 GS has had no warranty work at all (touch wood), although it did blow a headlight bulb after 8000 miles :roll

I really miss the power of the K1200S, so would love an R1250GS, but may just end up buying a cheap pre-registered Twincam this time next year once the new model is unveiled :confused:
 
I really miss the power of the K1200S, so would love an R1250GS, but may just end up buying a cheap pre-registered Twincam this time next year once the new model is unveiled :confused:

Nothing to say that the 1250 will actually be significantly more powerful than the current 1200 twin cam and could well end up being heavier as well.

Having only just bought a new twin cam I will be happy enough to keep it until the 1250 is well proven. Given the history of the 1200's that could be a few years - so a final edition 1200 would be well worth looking at ;)
 
Looking at those pics and the screen it appears that BMW may have taken note of all the complaints about buffeting and noise from the screen and designed something that looks as though it could eliminate a great deal of this.
What baffles me though is they must be aware that a large amount of GS owners add front fender extenders yet that prototype has a short fender again :blast:nenau
 
Reading the MCN article it appears they didn't attend maths at school. In one paragraph it says the new GS is the biggest overhaul in 30 years, but in the bullet points says the biggest shake up for the GS since 1994 :blast
 
Will the fuel gauge be any better? I.e. actually be accurate and not feck up completely at some point saying you are permanently out of fuel? :green gri
 
Nothing to say that the 1250 will actually be significantly more powerful than the current 1200 twin cam and could well end up being heavier as well.
SPY pictures of BMW's water-cooled 2013 R1250GS have been flying around forums over the Christmas break, giving us a chance to analyse some of the finer details of the bike that spells the beginning of the end for BMW's traditional air-cooled boxer twins.
Despite the cooling fins on the cylinders and the lack of obvious radiators, there's no doubt this is a water-cooled motor. While BMW is still using a certain amount of air cooling, the lion's share of the cooling duties are being done by water that runs around the engine – particularly the cylinder heads – and then back to radiators tucked up behind the side panels above each cylinder.
The new motor (and while it's still a boxer twin, it really is 'new' with no carry-over parts from the old engine) appears to be carried higher in the chassis than the old air-cooled unit, with the exhausts now exiting from the bottom of the cylinder heads rather than the front. The high cylinders mimic the firm's 20-year-old water-cooled boxer prototype, the R1 sports bike, which also carried its crank and cylinders high in an effort to increase ground clearance in corners.
Despite the new water-cooled engine and 1200cc-plus capacity, don't expect Multistrada-style performance from the new GS. It's never been BMW's aim to make its dual-sport the fastest on the market; instead it always relies on being the 'best' from an all-round ownership point of view; a strategy that clearly works, as it's been the firm's top selling model (and often the best-selling bike in Europe) for years on end. We're guessing that the new motor will offer something in the region of 120-130bhp, backed up with a torque curve resembling Ayers Rock.
The chassis is pretty much what we'd expect from a BMW GS; straightforward steel tubes with a Telelever front and and Paralever rear suspension. However, you can be pretty certain the new GS will feature the next-generation of BMW's ESA electronic suspension adjustment.
The styling ticks all the GS boxes: lopsided headlight (now with LED running lights), massive fuel tank, unusual lumps and bumps abound at the front while the back is bare apart from mounting brackets for the inevitable alloy-look panniers.
The new engine is matched with a new transmission, placing the shaft drive on the opposite side compared to the existing GS, a move that's led to the end can being repositioned to the bike's right hand side. As usual, we're expecting the base GS to be backed up with a more off-road style 'Adventure' version with wire wheels and other styling alterations.
Beyond the GS, the importance of this bike is that it will also form the basis of the rest of BMW's boxer range in the future. The new water cooled engine is sure to lead to a new R1250R and R1250RT over the next couple of years once the R1250GS is established – leaving no air-cooled models in BMW's range for the first time in the firm's history.

I reckon it will be so much better than the current aircooled machine - so much so I have today placed an order with Motorrad Central West Glasgow.
 
I reckon it will be so much better than the current aircooled machine - so much so I have today placed an order with Motorrad Central West Glasgow.

...........and BMW have their first Guinea Pig to test out the new bike for us :beerjug:

Learnt my lesson back in 2004 and will be waiting a year or 2 for BM to sort out any teething problems with the new model:rob

Hopefully though BM have learnt their lesson and the new bike will be good from the off :augie
 
" I reckon it will be so much better than the current aircooled machine - so much so I have today placed an order with Motorrad Central West Glasgow."

I think he jests, Motrrad Glasgow have shut down...................
 
" I reckon it will be so much better than the current aircooled machine - so much so I have today placed an order with Motorrad Central West Glasgow."

I think he jests, Motrrad Glasgow have shut down...................

That's what I thought as well, cant see a dealer taking an order on a bike that the manufacturer hasn't confirmed exists yet either.
 


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