1965 Triumph Bonneville TT

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5 years ago I bought the bare bones of a 1965 Bonneville TT and since then I've been steadily collecting bits for it ready for when the time was right to start the rebuild. I've also got 4 other Triumph projects waiting in the wings and so I really need to crack on and make some progress. This being the simplest, no lights and minimal electrics, and also the most valuable (I intend to sell it when finished) I decided to get this one done first. I've restored several old British bikes over the last 15 years, mainly Triumph twins and triples so I'm no stranger to the challenge of sourcing good-quality parts and services. I do as much of the work myself as is possible including wheel-building , painting and electro-plating of fasteners and small parts. Chrome plating and powder coating I leave to the specialists. (Castle Chrome and Triple S respectively)

So, back to the bike. It was imported back to the UK by a dealer who didn't really know what it was, he advertised it on Ebay as a 'T120 Trophy' I knew it was a T120C Bonneville but what I didn't know was whether it was a T120C TT or a T120C Competition Sports, also known as a 'Scrambler'. I was hoping it was the latter but that turned out to not be the case.

After winning the auction and picking the bike up I found it had no speedometer drive, a 17 tooth gearbox sprocket and ET (Energy Transfer) battery-less ignition system. These things all pointed to it being a 'TT' competition bike, that's USA TT (Flat Track with Jumps) as opposed to Isle of Man TT). After sending off the required documents to the Triumph Owners Club for a dating certificate it was confirmed via factory records as being a West Coast TT despatched to Johnson Motors, Pasadena, California on the 11th February 1965. Not the Competition Scrambler I was hoping for but still a very rare and collectible bike.

Now for some background info:-

From the late 1950s two thirds of Triumph bike production went to the USA, and many were quickly converted to competition use being much lighter and faster than the Harleys of that time. In 1963 the US importers asked Triumph to supply ready-made competition bikes which they did. The twin carb T120C Bonneville for TT and Flat Track, and the single carb TR6C Trophy for desert racing, AKA the Desert Sled. In both cases 'C' standing for Competition.

In 1965 the T120C was sent to the USA in four configurations, West Coast TT and Scrambler and East Coast TT and Scrambler. The only way to identify the exact specification of any particular bike is from the engine and frame numbers in the original factory despatch records which fortunately still exist.

I was hoping my bike was a Competition Scrambler, like this :-

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But it's actually a West Coast TT like this :-

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Either way, they are both very rare and desirable bikes. :)
 
So, on with the rebuild, the starting point. Front frame section.IMG_20241118_142151_HDR.jpg

And the engine.



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The good news is that the engine and frame numbers are matching and genuine, they have not been tampered with at all. Unfortunately there are a lot of old bikes out there with re-stamped numbers and quite a few of them turn up at high-end auctions. Buyer beware!
 
I look forward to the progress, nice machine potentially, fancy one myself


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So, on with the rebuild, the starting point. Front frame section.View attachment 365616

And the engine.



View attachment 365617

The good news is that the engine and frame numbers are matching and genuine, they have not been tampered with at all. Unfortunately there are a lot of old bikes out there with re-stamped numbers and quite a few of them turn up at high-end auctions. Buyer beware!
Look forward to your progress reports. 👍 What are you going to the engine?
 
I’ve just been on another thread wishing that British manufacturers had kept up with their rivals. One thing is I think it’s fair to say those bikes are beautiful. I love the lines and the purposeful looking engines. Nobody does or did it better. JJH
 
5 years ago I bought the bare bones of a 1965 Bonneville TT and since then I've been steadily collecting bits for it ready for when the time was right to start the rebuild. I've also got 4 other Triumph projects waiting in the wings and so I really need to crack on and make some progress. This being the simplest, no lights and minimal electrics, and also the most valuable (I intend to sell it when finished) I decided to get this one done first. I've restored several old British bikes over the last 15 years, mainly Triumph twins and triples so I'm no stranger to the challenge of sourcing good-quality parts and services. I do as much of the work myself as is possible including wheel-building , painting and electro-plating of fasteners and small parts. Chrome plating and powder coating I leave to the specialists. (Castle Chrome and Triple S respectively)

So, back to the bike. It was imported back to the UK by a dealer who didn't really know what it was, he advertised it on Ebay as a 'T120 Trophy' I knew it was a T120C Bonneville but what I didn't know was whether it was a T120C TT or a T120C Competition Sports, also known as a 'Scrambler'. I was hoping it was the latter but that turned out to not be the case.

After winning the auction and picking the bike up I found it had no speedometer drive, a 17 tooth gearbox sprocket and ET (Energy Transfer) battery-less ignition system. These things all pointed to it being a 'TT' competition bike, that's USA TT (Flat Track with Jumps) as opposed to Isle of Man TT). After sending off the required documents to the Triumph Owners Club for a dating certificate it was confirmed via factory records as being a West Coast TT despatched to Johnson Motors, Pasadena, California on the 11th February 1965. Not the Competition Scrambler I was hoping for but still a very rare and collectible bike.

Now for some background info:-

From the late 1950s two thirds of Triumph bike production went to the USA, and many were quickly converted to competition use being much lighter and faster than the Harleys of that time. In 1963 the US importers asked Triumph to supply ready-made competition bikes which they did. The twin carb T120C Bonneville for TT and Flat Track, and the single carb TR6C Trophy for desert racing, AKA the Desert Sled. In both cases 'C' standing for Competition.

In 1965 the T120C was sent to the USA in four configurations, West Coast TT and Scrambler and East Coast TT and Scrambler. The only way to identify the exact specification of any particular bike is from the engine and frame numbers in the original factory despatch records which fortunately still exist.

I was hoping my bike was a Competition Scrambler, like this :-

View attachment 365615
But it's actually a West Coast TT like this :-

View attachment 365614

Either way, they are both very rare and desirable bikes. :)
Wow,that's nice,good luck with the project
 
Thanks for the positive feedback everyone. (y)

This is the tenth restoration I've done over the last 15 years or so and I often wish that I'd documented those as I'd done them. The purpose of this thread is twofold, firstly to keep me motivated through winter to get the thing done (I've three more Triumph twins awaiting restoration) and secondly to bring a little bit more content to this section. I do love watching other people's projects and it's obvious that other people feel the same way.

I'll update the thread as and when there's sufficient progress been made, maybe once a week? I'll see how things go.

So what is a TT Bonneville? They were basically standard US spec T120Rs without lights, horn, battery, centre stand, speedometer, silencers or wiring loom, and lowered gearing. They ran a self-generating ignition system known as ET. (Energy Transfer) They had folding footrests to comply with US competition regulations and also had rigidly mounted handlebars instead of the standard metalastic rubber mounts. Weirdly they were supplied with parcel racks on the tank though! Just what you need on a competition bike. :nenau

Interestingly it was probably Steve McQueen who instigated the handlebar modification as he used to swap the fork yokes on his Triumphs for BSA items as they had the solid mounts which he preferred.

Here's a couple of pictures of him on the bike he rode in the 1964 International Six Day Trial. You can see the rigid handlebar mounts in the first pic. Running the bike in in London prior to the ISDT. :cool:

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As above the TT was made from 1963 - 67 as a competition bike for the US market for use in Flat Track and TT racing. Here's a picture from the 1967 Ascot TT. I can't imagine what it was like jumping a 67 Bonneville that high, they are bloody heavy and the suspension was the same as the road bike...... crap. :-

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A full rebuild to standard spec. I have a pair of New Old Stock genuine Hepolite 11:1 cr pistons which should make for interesting kick starting. :rolleyes:
Cheers Number 6. ( I myself, am not a number and look forward to your extensive and detailed , regular progress reports ( pleeeease😉)
What about the bottom end. Are you doing anything with that?
 
Cheers Number 6. ( I myself, am not a number and look forward to your extensive and detailed , regular progress reports ( pleeeease😉)
What about the bottom end. Are you doing anything with that?
Patience Grasshopper. :)
 
Makes we shiver thinking how many balls must have been whacked on the tank rack. I remember seeing quite a few modern bikes with a massive vee in the tank post collision, and those injuries were bad enough.
 
I look forward to the progress, nice machine potentially, fancy one myself


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Mines for sale on this very site….
Tiger 650, rather than a Bonneville tho’ ….
 


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