2012 GSA TANK RANGE

[Deleted account AWRT]

Hi Folks,

I have a 2012 GSA in the best colour (Alpine Sandrover)

This isn't my first one and on previous bikes got between 280 -320 miles from the tank.

I filled up a couple of weeks ago from empty and the light has just come on at 198 miles. My average MPG is about 37

I'm not caning the bike and this is mostly urban riding.

Anyone convince me that is normal

 

[Beemerman59]

Fill the tank up and make a note of how much it takes then work out your true mpg from that. My guess is you will only get 20 litres in the tank which holds 33+ a few more if you brim it.

 

[davegs]

Fuel gauge

Don't rely on those fill up and take a re set the trip, carry a can of juce and run it out then take a reading. This is the only way to get a real figure.
dave GS

 

[Deleted account AWRT]

cheers guys

I never really watch the fuel gauge and normally reset the odometer on fueling. I normally hit about 250 and then refill, but this stumped me when the orange warning light came on at 198

 

[jonny5859]

also you will need that can of juice for when the fuel gauge fails and you run out at the side of the road....

 

[Magwych]

Will be interested to see how the MPG works out ...

I had a loan 2011 GSA for a day, and by my calculations I was getting about 45 MPG; whereas my 2008 GSA reliably gives me 50.

 

[Lighty]

My Sandrover does about 39mpg, I tend to drive it quite hard tbh, it seems to make a large difference using super, which I do all the time now.

 

[OzGSAer]

I'm getting 5.3 l/100K on my 2012 GSA in the best colour (Alpine Sandrover) . That's a calculated figure from tank brim full to tank brim full and about 53 mpg, riding with panniers on twisty mountain roads. I've been filling with 98RON premium so far.

This is about BMW's quoted figure but I'm still coming to terms with that as my F650GS usually gets 70-80 mpg on the same roads.

 

[Big_Steve64]

How to work out fuel consumption

Here is a fool proof way to calculate EXACTLY how many mpg your bike (or car) is doing. I pretty much do this every tank as I think it can be a great early warning systen for something not being right once you know how much it usually does.

1) On the center stand fill the tank so the fuel is just touching the bottom of the filler neck. Be careful as you don't want a spillage of the precious stuff. The trick here is to be consistant - it doesn't really matter where the fill level is, as long as you can replicate it every time.

2) When you are ready to fill up again (it doesn't have to be empty). Just fill it up to the same level as before.

3) Make a note of the milage on the trip and the amount of fuel you put in. - Clue: It tells you on the pump, just above the amount you need to pay.

The calculation: MPG -So I can show the working out lets asume we put 19 litres in and managed 220 miles.

The amount will most likely be in litres, so we need to convert this into gallons (imperial) There are 4.55 litres to a gallon.
19 (litres) divided by 4.55 19/4.55 =4.17 gallons

So we did 220 miles on 4.17 gallons
to work out the actual MPG is
220 divided by 4.17 - 220/4.17 = 52.75 mpg

The key point here is to consistently fill the tank to the same level. Even if you are a small amount out it will give a near enough figure.

I realise that most know this already, but if it helps 1 or 2 then it's all good.

Even this is not 100% accurate, as you are relying on the trip recorded by the bike to be accurate. You can always use a sat nav it you need to be anal about it.

On a side note. I had my MINI serviced last week and they gave me a terrific courtesy car (A JCW MINI Cooper S Coupe) OMG that thing flies. But when I took it back they wanted to charge me £1.80 + VAT for the fuel used." How do you know how much fuel I used?" I asked. Apparently the amount of fuel in the car is held on the chip in the key. I can grasp the fact they the car knows how much fuel it has used, as the sensors would know this. But I cannot get my head around how it knows what went in. Answers on a postcard......

 

[Wapping]

This has got to be a joke.....

How to work out MPG.... Sums for imbeciles.

 

[WindyChuffer]

This has got to be a joke.....

How to work out MPG.... Sums for imbeciles.

Only in the 1200 section....

 

[chesuk]

Hi Folks,

I have a 2012 GSA in the best colour (Alpine Sandrover)

This isn't my first one and on previous bikes got between 280 -320 miles from the tank.

I filled up a couple of weeks ago from empty and the light has just come on at 198 miles. My average MPG is about 37

I'm not caning the bike and this is mostly urban riding.

Anyone convince me that is normal

Fuel consumption of my 1200 is f**cking apalling - will sell mine unless I can find a solution - I get about 37 on the motorways/A-roads, up to 49 in town (almost never in town though)). The tank becomes a sieve above 60 mph it seems

 

[Wapping]

Fuel consumption of my 1200 is f**cking apalling - will sell mine unless I can find a solution -

Check your sums with Big_Steve64

 

[Big_Steve64]

Check your sums with Big_Steve64

Yeah, I'm happy with the sums.

In respect of people not being able to work out MPG and being "imbeciles". I would like to point out that there are numerous posts on this site that fall into similar catorgries. eg.

How to change your oil.
I have over filled my bike with oil....what shall I do?
One of the cylinder heads is bubbling slightly. Easy to refinish? or should I look for a replacement?
etc.....

You could easily take the pish, but we do not all have all the answers do we?
This is a caring ,sharing, happy place. Just wanted to help.

Incidentally......... I have a knocking noise on the left cylinder when I rev it to 9500 revs......My dealer told me it was the HK nipple rubbing on the crewshank valve. Is this correct?

 

[WindyChuffer]

Yeah, I'm happy with the sums.

In respect of people not being able to work out MPG and being "imbeciles". I would like to point out that there are numerous posts on this site that fall into similar catorgries. eg.

How to change your oil.
I have over filled my bike with oil....what shall I do?
One of the cylinder heads is bubbling slightly. Easy to refinish? or should I look for a replacement?
etc.....

You could easily take the pish, but we do not all have all the answers do we?
This is a caring ,sharing, happy place. Just wanted to help.

Incidentally......... I have a knocking noise on the left cylinder when I rev it to 9500 revs......My dealer told me it was the HK nipple rubbing on the crewshank valve. Is this correct?

If you don't know how to do some very basic maths like work out MPG, percentages etc., then may the lord help you. Where the fek were you at school? How do you manage your finances?

Trouble is, the 1200 section seems to breed an awful lot of daft posts...

But it does have an up side....I quite enjoy reading Wapping's piss take comments on daft posts.

 

[JJH]

Working out mpg fill tank zero trip ride top up as necessary keeping record of amount of fuel then after a while brim it and add all fuel from topups and final amount and check trip and do sums JJH

 

[Deleted account AWRT]

Here is a fool proof way to calculate EXACTLY how many mpg your bike (or car) is doing. I pretty much do this every tank as I think it can be a great early warning systen for something not being right once you know how much it usually does.

1) On the center stand fill the tank so the fuel is just touching the bottom of the filler neck. Be careful as you don't want a spillage of the precious stuff. The trick here is to be consistant - it doesn't really matter where the fill level is, as long as you can replicate it every time.

2) When you are ready to fill up again (it doesn't have to be empty). Just fill it up to the same level as before.

3) Make a note of the milage on the trip and the amount of fuel you put in. - Clue: It tells you on the pump, just above the amount you need to pay.

The calculation: MPG -So I can show the working out lets asume we put 19 litres in and managed 220 miles.

The amount will most likely be in litres, so we need to convert this into gallons (imperial) There are 4.55 litres to a gallon.
19 (litres) divided by 4.55 19/4.55 =4.17 gallons

So we did 220 miles on 4.17 gallons
to work out the actual MPG is
220 divided by 4.17 - 220/4.17 = 52.75 mpg

The key point here is to consistently fill the tank to the same level. Even if you are a small amount out it will give a near enough figure.

I realise that most know this already, but if it helps 1 or 2 then it's all good.

Even this is not 100% accurate, as you are relying on the trip recorded by the bike to be accurate. You can always use a sat nav it you need to be anal about it.

On a side note. I had my MINI serviced last week and they gave me a terrific courtesy car (A JCW MINI Cooper S Coupe) OMG that thing flies. But when I took it back they wanted to charge me £1.80 + VAT for the fuel used." How do you know how much fuel I used?" I asked. Apparently the amount of fuel in the car is held on the chip in the key. I can grasp the fact they the car knows how much fuel it has used, as the sensors would know this. But I cannot get my head around how it knows what went in. Answers on a postcard......

Thanks for the info......It's the thought that counts

 

[Spike]

If you don't know how to do some very basic maths like work out MPG, percentages etc., then may the lord help you. Where the fek were you at school? How do you manage your finances?

You will be supprised how many people still canot read or write let alone do basic maths, so just because someone is old enough to probably know better may not always be the case.

Finances what are those, debt/credit card companies would not survive if it was not for people not being able to manage their finances, and most of those that are in trouble are bright enough to add up and take away.

anyway enough of the sob stories, the bike will get to the gallon what ever it gets, weight, speed, town country riding all take its toll.

spike

 

[fatbaldbob]

I can not do even the most basic of maths, I tried at school and went back to try again at age 35 and was thrown out of the class within days as a lost cause. It's just one of those things, some people can do numbers others can't, but I have still managed to survive this long and maintain a well paid job despite being an imbecile But we do have calculators these days.

With the instructions provided I could do the calculation but I would have no chance without the idiots guide provided in this thread, unfortunately we can't all be as clever as some are on this site

Mine does 48 / 50 ish mpg by the way.

 

[WindyChuffer]

I can not do even the most basic of maths, I tried at school and went back to try again at age 35 and was thrown out of the class within days as a lost cause. It's just one of those things, some people can do numbers others can't, but I have still managed to survive this long and maintain a well paid job despite being an imbecile But we do have calculators these days.

With the instructions provided I could do the calculation but I would have no chance without the idiots guide provided in this thread, unfortunately we can't all be as clever as some are on this site

Mine does 48 / 50 ish mpg by the way.

Sure but doesn't the very term "miles per gallon" give it away and give a huge clue on how to work it out?

As for converting litres to gallons, well google is your friend there.

Most of the time its not about maths, but about taking a step back and doing some basic problem solving. Sadly a lot of folk can't be arsed with that.