2013 GS TE v 2105 GS TE.......

[wildoat]

Can't afford the very latest but have the chance to buy a very good condition, very low mileage 2013 TE, am curious what the differences are if any, seems the newer bikes have a steering damper as standard, anything else I ought
to be aware of, thanks in advance!

cheers
tony

 

[fredaroony]

Fancy seeing you here What about the prilla?

 

[Deleted account 251212001]

The gear change could be seriously shit on a early bike so thrash it on a test ride and check it doesn't graunch.

Steering damper added.

2015 was the introduction of a heavier crankshaft but personally I thought my 2014 was a smudge edgier without it, tiny percentages tho.

 

[wildoat]

The gear change could be seriously shit on a early bike so thrash it on a test ride and check it doesn't graunch.

Steering damper added.

2015 was the introduction of a heavier crankshaft but personally I thought my 2014 was a smudge edgier without it, tiny percentages tho.

Thanks for your quick response!
The gearbox on the bike I test rode seemed totally fine, a million miles better than my old 1150GS which I loved so much I put 50,000 miles on her!

Not sure what difference the heavier crankshaft makes to everyday riding! perhaps you can advise.
The bike I am considering has done just 2,500 miles from new, it looks literally brand new.

cheers
tony

 

[wildoat]

Fancy seeing you here What about the prilla?

Are you stalking me? lol

Well the Caponord is a good bike, I like the looks but it's just not as tractable as I'd like, the chain drive is a pain, especially as since I've owned the bike I've only had the chance to ride it once in the dry so chain maintenance is a real concern. I've owned two GS's a 1100 and a 1150, put over 50,000 miles on both and
honestly they just suit my riding style/type. I'm not in a position to own more than one bike so the GS offers the best of both worlds and is very adaptable. I also really like the commanding seating position, being able to see a long way down the road and over hedges on the country backroads
is a real passive safety feature which I like.
Your thoughts are appreciated, just don't tell me I'm making another mistake, buying three different bikes in less than eight months is proving costly to say the least .

cheers
tony

 

[fredaroony]

Are you stalking me? lol

Well the Caponord is a good bike, I like the looks but it's just not as tractable as I'd like, the chain drive is a pain, especially as since I've owned the bike I've only had the chance to ride it once in the dry so chain maintenance is a real concern. I've owned two GS's a 1100 and a 1150, put over 50,000 miles on both and
honestly they just suit my riding style/type. I'm not in a position to own more than one bike so the GS offers the best of both worlds and is very adaptable. I also really like the commanding seating position, being able to see a long way down the road and over hedges on the country backroads
is a real passive safety feature which I like.
Your thoughts are appreciated, just don't tell me I'm making another mistake, buying three different bikes in less than eight months is proving costly to say the least .

cheers
tony

lol not quite

Pretty clear from my posts in the Aprilia forum that I much prefer the GS. It's a better bike in every single way I can think of with the exception that maybe the Capo is slightly better balanced two up...and I mean slightly.

The GS feels like it has much more mechanical grip from the rear wheel and perhaps the best I have ever experienced on any bike. The GS also handles quite a bit better than the Capo and is much more composed when getting pushed hard.

The GS is much more refined to and it's not a bike you feel like you need to start fixing because of shortcomings like the Capo either. Many things on the Capo just feel half arsed.

The light clutch and gearing make the GS much easier to ride around town as well. The Capo is a chore to ride in traffic and was the number one reason why I got rid of it.

I took this video while coming back from a 3000klm trip a couple days ago while going through some awesome twisty roads. The bike was fully loaded with panniers and topbox so couldnt push too hard.

 

[wildoat]

lol not quite

Pretty clear from my posts in the Aprilia forum that I much prefer the GS. It's a better bike in every single way I can think of with the exception that maybe the Capo is slightly better balanced two up...and I mean slightly.

The GS feels like it has much more mechanical grip from the rear wheel and perhaps the best I have ever experienced on any bike. The GS also handles quite a bit better than the Capo and is much more composed when getting pushed hard.

The GS is much more refined to and it's not a bike you feel like you need to start fixing because of shortcomings like the Capo either. Many things on the Capo just feel half arsed.

The light clutch and gearing make the GS much easier to ride around town as well. The Capo is a chore to ride in traffic and was the number one reason why I got rid of it.

I took this video while coming back from a 3000klm trip a couple days ago while going through some awesome twisty roads. The bike was fully loaded with panniers and topbox so couldnt push too hard.

Wow, As The Missenden Flyer said, a stunning road indeed!
I think I agree entirely with the points you made above, just wish I hadn't wasted the cash previously this year with the Triumph Explorer then the Aprila, hey ho we live and learn.
I didn't at all like the look of the cockpit on the Aprila, very sparse and underwhelming, I also feel cramped on the bike. As much as I like the sound it makes it can get a bit wearing and doesn't inspire sedate cruising(with bends thrown in for good measure) which I like to do every now and again, actually more often than not, my days of riding like
a loon are long gone. I am looking forward to owning a GS again, and gradually adding the extras I need to turn it into the bike which suits me perfectly, not something I could realistically achieve on the Caponord. I also would have never bought the April had I realised that particular model had been discontinued!

cheers
tony

 

[fredaroony]

Wow, As The Missenden Flyer said, a stunning road indeed!
I think I agree entirely with the points you made above, just wish I hadn't wasted the cash previously this year with the Triumph Explorer then the Aprila, hey ho we live and learn.
I didn't at all like the look of the cockpit on the Aprila, very sparse and underwhelming, I also feel cramped on the bike. As much as I like the sound it makes it can get a bit wearing and doesn't inspire sedate cruising(with bends thrown in for good measure) which I like to do every now and again, actually more often than not, my days of riding like
a loon are long gone. I am looking forward to owning a GS again, and gradually adding the extras I need to turn it into the bike which suits me perfectly, not something I could realistically achieve on the Caponord. I also would have never bought the April had I realised that particular model had been discontinued!

cheers
tony

That was only 5 mins of the road and I have a lot more footage I will upload at some point. About another 100klms of more twisties on that road.

I never had much of an issue with the Capo cockpit and while the dash looks cool there is very little information actually provided. The fuel gauge on the GS actually works and gives you a very good fuel range indicator. It's like all the little issues that annoyed me about the Capo were fixed perfectly when I bought the GS.

The Capo is actually a good bike but depends on what you are looking for. When you ride the GS you start to understand why BMW sell so many of them.

The majority of my trip was Australian outback, very high heat and straight'ish roads and the GS was brilliant. Another great thing is that it runs cool and you never feel the engine heat and this was something I never thought too much about when I had the Capo but now it's no much nicer. I was doing 11 hour days on the GS with not much issue.

Also worth mentioning the fuel consumption is MUCH better than the Capo and I get around 400klms out of a tank yet it has 4 litre less than the Capo tank.

 

[littleade]

Can't afford the very latest but have the chance to buy a very good condition, very low mileage 2013 TE, am curious what the differences are if any, seems the newer bikes have a steering damper as standard, anything else I ought
to be aware of, thanks in advance!

cheers
tony

Can you test ride the 2013? if you can why not get a ride on a demonstrator too to see how they differ.

I'm guessing the 2013 will be a TE, if so is it out of warranty yet as it may be worth getting one?

I test rode 2 explorers and despite owners and dealers raving about them they didn't do much for me so I got a TE GS instead....

 

[tanneman]

The 2013 is a more livelier bike with the lighter flywheel. I actually liked it quite a bit, wheelies off the throttle from stand still . The crash bar mountings differ from the 2014 model onwards and also the side stand foot is different. The gearbox is an improvement from 2014 onwards but I'll say ride a few and compare it to the 14 and 15 plate bikes. I think you can only have Gear Shift Pro from 2014 onwards? Buy a red one You can't go wrong until it breaks

 

[wildoat]

That was only 5 mins of the road and I have a lot more footage I will upload at some point. About another 100klms of more twisties on that road.

I never had much of an issue with the Capo cockpit and while the dash looks cool there is very little information actually provided. The fuel gauge on the GS actually works and gives you a very good fuel range indicator. It's like all the little issues that annoyed me about the Capo were fixed perfectly when I bought the GS.

The Capo is actually a good bike but depends on what you are looking for. When you ride the GS you start to understand why BMW sell so many of them.

The majority of my trip was Australian outback, very high heat and straight'ish roads and the GS was brilliant. Another great thing is that it runs cool and you never feel the engine heat and this was something I never thought too much about when I had the Capo but now it's no much nicer. I was doing 11 hour days on the GS with not much issue.

Also worth mentioning the fuel consumption is MUCH better than the Capo and I get around 400klms out of a tank yet it has 4 litre less than the Capo tank.

Yeah I had my Capo engine fan come on whilst I was in traffic, it was just 38f ambient temperature, not convinced that was right or it must be a bit of a design flaw!
I'lll never get used to the fuel gauge on the Capo, or the fuel consumption which was dire after I had run the bike in and could ride it properly!
Looking forward to seeing the rest of the footage, I've subscribed to your youtube channel.

cheers

 

[wildoat]

Can you test ride the 2013? if you can why not get a ride on a demonstrator too to see how they differ.

I'm guessing the 2013 will be a TE, if so is it out of warranty yet as it may be worth getting one?

I test rode 2 explorers and despite owners and dealers raving about them they didn't do much for me so I got a TE GS instead....

The 2013 bike I'm interested in is a TE model and it rides like a brand new bike, there was literally nothing about it I didn't like!

cheers
tony

 

[Deleted account 251212001]

The 2013/14 engine is just as good as the heavier crank one from 2015 revs up ever so slightly quicker. Virtually identical anyway so if u like the ride be content u got 99 percent the same bike 5k cheaper than new.

 

[wildoat]

The 2013 is a more livelier bike with the lighter flywheel. I actually liked it quite a bit, wheelies off the throttle from stand still . The crash bar mountings differ from the 2014 model onwards and also the side stand foot is different. The gearbox is an improvement from 2014 onwards but I'll say ride a few and compare it to the 14 and 15 plate bikes. I think you can only have Gear Shift Pro from 2014 onwards? Buy a red one You can't go wrong until it breaks

I can live without wheelies, lol. The Gear Shift Pro I can live without, I think. also test rode a 2015 r1200r what a sweet riding bike, sublime handling, just didn't like the low seat relative to the footpegs, I'm 6'1" and found it a touch cramped, though it was a seriously impressive bike.

The gearbox on the 2013 TE I test rode was excellent, I suppose it would be compared to the much older r1150 gs I used to own.

cheers
tony

 

[GSTourer]

Have they released the spec for the 2105 model then?

 

[Reggie P]

Have they released the spec for the 2105 model then?

One thing for sure, it won't have an internal combustion engine and will probably have all the fun written out of it by legislators.

 

[tanneman]

I can live without wheelies, lol. The Gear Shift Pro I can live without, I think. also test rode a 2015 r1200r what a sweet riding bike, sublime handling, just didn't like the low seat relative to the footpegs, I'm 6'1" and found it a touch cramped, though it was a seriously impressive bike.

The gearbox on the 2013 TE I test rode was excellent, I suppose it would be compared to the much older r1150 gs I used to own.

cheers
tony

At 5'10'' even I found the R1200R a bit cramped. Very good bike, the best performing underdog in the BMW R range bikes.

 

[Adrian165]

Referring back to your original post, the 2013 WC TE has a steering damper as standard
I have a 2013 TE and the bike has been faultless other than having the faulty battery replaced under warranty.
As someone stated earlier, save yourself a fortune and go for the 2013 bike especially as it is very low mileage.

 

[Nutty]

I can live without wheelies, lol. The Gear Shift Pro I can live without, I think. also test rode a 2015 r1200r what a sweet riding bike, sublime handling, just didn't like the low seat relative to the footpegs, I'm 6'1" and found it a touch cramped, though it was a seriously impressive bike.

The gearbox on the 2013 TE I test rode was excellent, I suppose it would be compared to the much older r1150 gs I used to own.

cheers
tony

Quite a few on here would have you believe the 1150 has a better gearbox than the LC!

 

[batman1]

My 2013 pre-steering damper LC bike gave a more comfortable ride than my later 2014 with-steering damper model, I think that perhaps bmw stiffened up the spring rate along with adding the s/damper when they added the 'white' springs to the shockers. The 2013 bike had 'black' shocker springs which seemed to be a touch softer (better).

My 2013 bike was brilliant and faultless, and while I do prefer the 2015 heavy flywheel motor on my 2015 bike, there's not much in it.

If you can save yourself a big lump of cash I doubt if you will have any regrets, the 2013 LC is a great bike!