2013 Triumph Trophy

[R1200RIDER]

Despite loving my BMW's in general .... I am highly tempted to make the move over to this Triple!
My local Trump dealer in Birmingham has an open evening on the 1st November which I may head along to - if anyone else is interested?

 

[Nutty]

My local Trump dealer in Birmingham has an open evening on the 1st November

Don't be suckered in by marketing promos, wait to see the new watercooled RT first, unless you're in a hurry to change

 

[Achim]

Not sure what the fuss is all about. There is nothing the Trophy does that a K13GT doesn't do better.

"Sulu, warp 9!"

Achim

 

[sven]

Not sure what the fuss is all about. There is nothing the Trophy does that a K13GT doesn't do better.

"Sulu, warp 9!"

Achim

But you can't buy a new K13GT anymore and the K16GT is too big and expensive

 

[Achim]

But you can't buy a new K13GT anymore and the K16GT is too big and expensive

Correct, on both counts.

What I was trying to point out is that even though the Trophy is a new bike, Triumph have failed to move touring motorcycle development further along.

Related to your second point, BMW have fallen for the fallacy of automobile designers who think that bigger is better. The K1600GT significantly heavier than my K13GT, it is slower, and it uses more fuel.

When looking at the TT and the K16 I ask myself, where's the progress?

 

[ebbo]

Triumph in York are having an open evening to, I'll be popping in for a look, might even book a test ride but I won't do anything till I see the new 1200RT

 

[Budweiser]

When is the new RT due?

 

[wreck diver]

2014 according to my local dealer but no exact date.
That would give them time to sort out the niggles on the GS version,so the RT should be spot on

 

[Ted]

Got to be worth a test ride on a Trophy. Must be an improvement on the old one was a big top heavy lump nightmare on twisty alpine roads, kept falling over on slowish hairpins
Not seen a proper road test yet againsed its more natural competition, BM RT, Pan, Kawzaki GTR1400 just a load of lardy HDs, Goldwing etc.even a VFR or the now defunct 1300GT would be better competition. Just makes me wonder why not

 

[red1]

Got to be worth a test ride on a Trophy. Must be an improvement on the old one was a big top heavy lump nightmare on twisty alpine roads, kept falling over on slowish hairpins
Not seen a proper road test yet againsed its more natural competition, BM RT, Pan, Kawzaki GTR1400 just a load of lardy HDs, Goldwing etc.even a VFR or the now defunct 1300GT would be better competition. Just makes me wonder why not

MSL this month have a full test. Tony Carter (as seen on tv) the editor did test. I contacted him later for confirmation of something in the test and he said it was absolutely brilliant. Best tourer he's ever ridden!

 

[ebbo]

MSL this month have a full test. Tony Carter (as seen on tv) the editor did test. I contacted him later for confirmation of something in the test and he said it was absolutely brilliant. Best tourer he's ever ridden!

Forgive me for saying so, but I wouldn't believe any road test other than those done by ordinary joe public, bods like me and you

 

[Bikerbuk]

Forgive me for saying so, but I wouldn't believe any road test other than those done by ordinary joe public, bods like me and you

+1

The bike looks and sounds like it will be superb but the biggest test will be once it's in the public domain and real bikers get a chance to ride it. Test reports are ultimately designed to get punters in the showrooms and nothing else.

I think a proper extended test ride could be in order.

 

[BBB61]

Related to your second point, BMW have fallen for the fallacy of automobile designers who think that bigger is better. The K1600GT significantly heavier than my K13GT, it is slower, and it uses more fuel.

When looking at the TT and the K16 I ask myself, where's the progress?

Better handling of the K16 against the K13, better rider and pillion accomodation, much smoother engine which results in considerably less vibration getting through to rider and passenger, and I would doubt that it uses more fuel than a K13.

 

[llotse]

Better handling of the K16 against the K13, better rider and pillion accomodation, much smoother engine which results in considerably less vibration getting through to rider and passenger, and I would doubt that it uses more fuel than a K13.

I had the K1200GT and no vibration to speak of but I would possibly agree with the better handling and accommodation. Just a shame BMW didn't keep the 1300 in the line up, some of us can't, or will not, pay the price both in monetary terms or extra weight for the 1600.

 

[BBB61]

I had the K1200GT and no vibration to speak of but I would possibly agree with the better handling and accommodation. Just a shame BMW didn't keep the 1300 in the line up, some of us can't, or will not, pay the price both in monetary terms or extra weight for the 1600.

I had a couple of K1200S slant fours and there was certainly noticeable vibration on them and also on the K1200/1300GT's I have ridden. The K1600 by comparison is ultra smooth.

I agree about keeping the K1300GT in the range though as I think there would have been some demand for it.

 

[sven]

I had a couple of K1200S slant fours and there was certainly noticeable vibration on them and also on the K1200/1300GT's I have ridden. The K1600 by comparison is ultra smooth.

I agree about keeping the K1300GT in the range though as I think there would have been some demand for it.

My K1200S improved everytime they changed the fuelling map at the 6000 mile services, but was still a bit rough at high revs. The K1300S demo I tried last year was much smoother and had a better gearbox too.

I've only sat on the K1600GT and it feels quite well balanced, but I can't imagine it handrles anywhere near as well as an R1200RT, which for this reason alone would stop me buying one.

 

[BBB61]

I've only sat on the K1600GT and it feels quite well balanced, but I can't imagine it handrles anywhere near as well as an R1200RT, which for this reason alone would stop me buying one.

Sven,

You would be surprised if you rode one. I was very sceptical when I first rode the k16, being guided by a ride on the K1300GT which I found handled like a barge. I thought that the K16 with its extra weight would be even worse. I was wrong. The K16 handles so much better than the K13 and is almost as good as the RT.

 

[1964Hall]

IMO the RT12 is just a bit quicker than the GT16 at turning in the twistys.
Based on a test ride I did earlier this year.
Nice bike but I'm waiting for the WCRT12 to come out, mind you I should be test riding the TT next month, I'll still wait till the WCRT so I can compare.
My 2007RT12 will be knocking on the door of 100,000 miles + by then.
\v/

 

[Hoseman]

Correct, on both counts.

What I was trying to point out is that even though the Trophy is a new bike, Triumph have failed to move touring motorcycle development further along.

Related to your second point, BMW have fallen for the fallacy of automobile designers who think that bigger is better. The K1600GT significantly heavier than my K13GT, it is slower, and it uses more fuel.

When looking at the TT and the K16 I ask myself, where's the progress?

You're clearly never ridden the k16 it handles superbly, engine is sublime, is bristling with new technology & it's bulk totally disappears once on the move. AIso get over 50mpg which my GS struggled to do.

 

[sven]

You're clearly never ridden the k16 it handles superbly, engine is sublime, is bristling with new technology & it's bulk totally disappears once on the move. AIso get over 50mpg which my GS struggled to do.

I'm definitely planning to do the next US tour on a K16GT as Eaglerider are starting to stock them