2014 RT's GROUNDED! DO NOT RIDE!
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AHaywood
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Well a week on and I'm not too sure anyone really knows what's happening.
I would like to see an updated official statement from BMW by the middle or end (latest) of next week, just to add clarity to the situation.
So far I think BMW and the dealerships are doing a good job, appearing to have acted quickly when becoming aware of the fault, communicated an unambiguous message 'not to ride' to all effected and contactable customers and are now in the process of trying to allocate loan vehicles to customers in need.
No, I'm really not happy about the situation we find ourselves in, but fortunately such events are rare and I for one have every faith in BMW!
I would like to see an updated official statement from BMW by the middle or end (latest) of next week, just to add clarity to the situation.
So far I think BMW and the dealerships are doing a good job, appearing to have acted quickly when becoming aware of the fault, communicated an unambiguous message 'not to ride' to all effected and contactable customers and are now in the process of trying to allocate loan vehicles to customers in need.
No, I'm really not happy about the situation we find ourselves in, but fortunately such events are rare and I for one have every faith in BMW!
What "clarity" are you looking for, exactly ?
You already acknowledge that they have: Acted quickly, communicated an unambiguous message, and are trying to source alternative vehicles...............
Al
15 extra LC GS on the raid that they will need to flog as the summer is ending... Could be some deals to be had when the market is awash with them.
BMW will no doubt have a team of engineers working very closely with their opposite numbers at Sachs to find out what the exact problem is, how to test a unit to see if it will fail and what the fix will be.
Problem is with the current world wide litigation culture who will sign off on a shock to say it is fine incase it fails at some stage down the line and someone is hurt or killed.
The most likely scenario will be replacing the 8000 rear esa shocks on the bikes already sold and all of those sitting on the assembly line or waiting to be dispatched.
BUT even if there is a suitable shock ready in development or already prototyped BMW are not going to rush it straight into production until it is 110% ready. This is likely to be a multi million pound damage limitation exercise and they do not need extended bad publicity.
At the end of the day the press and general public will blame BM for the situation when in reality it is down to an outside supplier
Problem is with the current world wide litigation culture who will sign off on a shock to say it is fine incase it fails at some stage down the line and someone is hurt or killed.
The most likely scenario will be replacing the 8000 rear esa shocks on the bikes already sold and all of those sitting on the assembly line or waiting to be dispatched.
BUT even if there is a suitable shock ready in development or already prototyped BMW are not going to rush it straight into production until it is 110% ready. This is likely to be a multi million pound damage limitation exercise and they do not need extended bad publicity.
At the end of the day the press and general public will blame BM for the situation when in reality it is down to an outside supplier
Sachs don't make the RT shock, from what has been said on this thread - it's another manufacturer is not?
For the sake of the shock manufacturer, I hope they have good insurance, or they'll collapse financially. BMW is lending bikes to customers at a cost of £30 per day, per bike in the interim period. Times that by 8000 bikes, for the next two months, at least (as Europe shuts down in the summer), add the cost of the replacement shocks, labour, and storage of the bikes, and the total bill is going to be eye watering.
For the sake of the shock manufacturer, I hope they have good insurance, or they'll collapse financially. BMW is lending bikes to customers at a cost of £30 per day, per bike in the interim period. Times that by 8000 bikes, for the next two months, at least (as Europe shuts down in the summer), add the cost of the replacement shocks, labour, and storage of the bikes, and the total bill is going to be eye watering.
I heard Berlusconi, was their Insurance Agent
It's a bit like Honda and their chocolate cam shafts/heads, back in the 80's.
Is it?
I doubt it?
For a start, it's not engine related
It's just a 3rd party supplied component
BMW will sort it, what did Honda do?
Oh yeah, they completely redesigned the engine & bike, into the VFR...............but I doubt the VF owners got much
Come back when you have a clue
chocolate cam shaft and duff camchains on 80's Hondas or even crap gearboxes on wc bmw motorcycles aren't in the same league as bikes with a potential fault that may cause the suspension of a bike being ridden at speed to collapse or fail.
If they do decide to change all the shocks and if they are ready for production how long does it take to build 8000 plus units. Definitely not in the next few weeks
If they do decide to change all the shocks and if they are ready for production how long does it take to build 8000 plus units. Definitely not in the next few weeks
kennyc
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maybe more equivalent to the 1300 Pan death weave then ?
Is it?
I doubt it?
For a start, it's not engine related
It's just a 3rd party supplied component
BMW will sort it, what did Honda do?
Oh yeah, they completely redesigned the engine & bike, into the VFR...............but I doubt the VF owners got much
Come back when you have a clue
Perhaps I'd better just shut up eh ? as I obviously no nothing. Seems some BMW bike owners are just like the BMW car owners, arrogant twats.
Macfie
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I don't know why it came into my head, but if our bikes are off the road for two or three months will BMW extend the warranty accordingly?
My guess, and that's all it is, would be that the warranty would start from the date the new component is actually fitted which would be consistent with current BMW methodology. Having just written that, I've just thought your question may be related to the warranty on the bike as a whole in which case, sorry, I haven't a scubby....
I would have thought not given, I assume, you would be racking up the miles on a BMW loan bike free of charge whilst yours is being sorted.
I am also certain from my own experience that BMW will make sure that the owners of the grounded bike will be satisfied with what they are ultimately offered by way of compensation/good will gestures etc
I see that it's not a recall then Another technical campaign according to this
http://www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk/news/?news_table=national_news&article_id=865
http://www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk/news/?news_table=national_news&article_id=865
