2014 RT's GROUNDED! DO NOT RIDE!

My buddy has now rejected his bike and asked for a refund....as his dealer was unable to offer any idea as to when his LC would be sorted, I think this was the best thing to do. However they have raised the possibility that they would give him back his p/x and the balance as a refund. I said no never...they have had his old bike for two months and he would have no idea what has happened to it....probably nothing but who knows?
 
Most of the updates are to do with emissions and trying to keep ahead of upcoming rules and regs, hence you will see the 4 cylinder 1000cc engine in a tourer version which is an easier engine to modify than an aging boxer.
 
JohnnyBoxer said:
Very true

When they finish the WC engine by making it quieter & fit a decent gearbox/clutch then it might be ok

If people are just quoting WC hp, then Scrimmiger can get nearly 100 bhp out of a tuned airhead engine - so the WC engine is hardly ground breaking at 125 bhp
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how close to 100BHP is "nearly" and when does BHP become ground breaking?
 
I know BMW have offered a voucher for £500 those whose bikes have been impounded but does anyone know if anything's been done where delivery is delayed?
 
busy builder said:
Most of the updates are to do with emissions and trying to keep ahead of upcoming rules and regs, hence you will see the 4 cylinder 1000cc engine in a tourer version which is an easier engine to modify than an aging boxer.
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There was me thinking that the water cooled engine was a recent design. Obviously all those journalist were right and the engine dates from 1923. Stand to reason really, the new one is a flat twin and the original was too so they must be the same.

John
 
Not all of the new r1200rt's are grounded there was a belgian regd one on the zeebrugge to hull ferry last night. Spoke to the owner who said he was without the bike for 10 weeks and that the Belgian dealers were so pissed off that they approached Monroe shock absorbers who gave engineered a mod for the rear shock as a temporary fix until bmw get their finger out.
The mod has apparently been approved by bmw as making the bike totally safe to use until they re-engineer the rear shock
 
There is a Facebook thread on the same subject where one of the contributors talks about a dealer fitting a Wilbers rear.
 
Several recalled RT WC's lined up indoors at Park Lane, Battersea.

For those that worry about these things, they look better garaged than my bikes.
 
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so $2500 compensation in the USA or £500 here, is that right?

that's taking the fucking piss, surely? :nenau
 
Corporations just love using "challenge" rather than "setback" or "problem"..................... :rolleyes:


What does "not made a decision in the option they have selected for themselves................" - mean?

Surely if you have selected an option - you've made your decision?

Fairly typical shite-speak............. :rolleyes:
 

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cookie said:
so $2500 compensation in the USA or £500 here, is that right?

that's taking the fucking piss, surely? :nenau
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I understand this was one of the 4 options USA customers were offered, 1) $2500 if they didn't need a loan bike, 2) $500 if they took a loan bike, 3) Full refund, &4) I can't remember.

I've contacted Motorrad UK about the issue, highlighting the UK offer wasn't comparable to the US or Spanish Market. The response was that it was a decision made by Motorrad UK to only offer £500 good will gesture, regardless of taking advantage of a loan bike or not, or how inconvenienced customers were. They also pointed out that I had a right to approach the dealer about a full refund. They were also not forthcoming about my suggestion to extend the warranty.

I understand from a Moto Guzzi dealer in Yorkshire that some customers have been offered an extension to their warranty, but this is currently hearsay at the moment...unless anybody on the forum can confirm this?

I did make a point of asking who had made the decision to not give UK customer the same as other markets with regard to the sweetener package, I was told (by customer services) it would have been made by the head of Motorrad UK, this could of course be escalated to the head of BMW UK. I did get the chaps name, but quite frankly thought I was pissing in the wind. I've come to the conclusion that I would have to take any further issues up with the dealership once the bike is fixed, whenever that will be. In the meantime, I shall continue to clock the miles up on the loaner.
 
I was chatting to Cooper BMW, a large dealership in SE England, part of the Inchcape Group.

They made an interesting observation, vis-a-vis the loan bikes. The loan bikes are owned by the dealership, not BMW. Coopers needed 10 to loan to customers whose RT's had been grounded by BMW. Even allowing for some discount from BMW, that is a huge amount of cash (north of £100,000) to tie up. Cooper's bit the bullet and went ahead, a smaller or private dealership would really struggle with cash flow.

I was also told that the shocks are removed from the bikes, sent back to Germany for modification / repair. BMW Germany supplies each dealership with a metal rod to replace the shock, or the rear would collapse. One small problem... The bike is raised on its centre stand to have the shock removed and the rod fitted. BMW sent out a subsequent warning that the rod can bend when the bike is rolled forward off its stand on completion.... Engineering on the edge.
 
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