24000 mile service

[Beemerman59]

What's the worst that could happen, no charge on the alternator and if you have a spare, it's only a matter of changing it when it breaks.
I don't thnk it's any different than your car fan belt, except this one is a polyvee belt. To compare, the toothed rubber timing belt on my Astravan runs the diesel pump, camshaft plus water pump. It's got 80,000 mile intervals in the handbook. Van has 170,000 on it and is only on its 3rd belt. I decreased the intervals for it to 60,000 seeing as it's a major feck up if the belt breaks on it.bent valves etc. It works a lot harder than the bike's belt. If the bike belt is only running the alternator there can be no danger of introducing the valves violently to the pistons so I think it will be fine to leave it. Worst case scenario is that if the belt breaks and you have no spare, the old trick of a pair of tights to get you home/to a garage would suffice and then fit a new belt. It's only a matter of taking the timing cover off and you have 2 pulleys below that.

http://www.r1200gs.info/howto/alt-belt.html

n'est pas?

I did enquire about the 36,000 mile service with dealer and was told, " Ohh thats a big one....the belt has to be changed as well. Would be round £400" Feck that saysI. Doing it meself. Granted if you're not handy with the spanners you need the dealer or someone to do it but I reckon it's a tad over cautious....... to say it is worn out at a mere 24,000k according to the eprom/reprom (15,000miles) (or even 36000miles) whichever you want to go by. Thoughts?
This statement below would support the above I'd say...




http://www.instructables.com/id/Replace-Fanbelt-with-Pantyhose!/
Wonder were they hers........8====>

Its 40,000 Km's for the change i.e 24K miles. My old belt looked just fine but for the sake of a few quid and in the nice confines of the garage it was worth doing it.

 

[leftofcentre]

Its 40,000 Km's for the change i.e 24K miles. My old belt looked just fine but for the sake of a few quid and in the nice confines of the garage it was worth doing it.

I agree & incidently did mine today with the rest of its Service after i had it MOTd. As i say £13 from Motorworks. I got it on with a ratchet and socket on the crank nut. Piece of piss.

As has been said, the old one looked fine and is now sitting in my GS Toolbox (Not that i carry the ratchet and heavy socket with me to chnge it!) as a spare.

If i hadnt of changed it, be just my luck it would go in some remote European corner!

 

[Nobbyspiles]

Its 40,000 Km's for the change i.e 24K miles. My old belt looked just fine but for the sake of a few quid and in the nice confines of the garage it was worth doing it.

Aye ok but K = kilometres usually FFS I know it also denotes 1000 but ach.. shite never mind............ can't be assed

 

[Our Gee]

Had price quotes from 2 Main Dealers yesterday. R1200RT 24,000 Service
Dealer 1. £481. Dealer 2. £499.81. Both included Brake Fluid Change and Alternator Drive Belt Change. Notice just how many 1200 RT's there are for sale with around 23,500 miles up !!.

 

[Blackal]

Might just carry the new one around in pannier box and change it when the old one breaks...

Why not fit the new one, in the comfort of your garage - and keep the old one as a spare?

Better than changing one at the side of the road (in the pissing rain-probably)

Al

 

[Steptoe]

What's the worst that could happen, .

Hall sensors can get taken out and the wiring damaged.

I don't thnk it's any different than your car fan belt, except this one is a polyvee belt. To compare, the toothed rubber timing belt on my Astravan runs the diesel pump, camshaft plus water pump. It's got 80,000 mile intervals in the handbook.

The belts on your car have an automatic or manual tensioner . The 1200 models don't.

 

[adventuredon]

Why not fit the new one, in the comfort of your garage - and keep the old one as a spare?

Better than changing one at the side of the road (in the pissing rain-probably)

Al

We don't all have a garage...some of us poorer GS'rs work on London pavements!

 

[jogo]

Can anyone give me the breakdown of what the 24000 mile service actually covers as Im sure I can do most of it and save myself £450
OR is it really important that a BMW dealersip does it?

thanks

Depending on your skills and tools you have or are willing to buy, you can do all by yourself. Nothing advanced needed and no rocket science
Take a look at Jim's pictorials (free on his page) and purchase his DVD, it'll guide you through all what is needed:

http://www.jimvonbaden.com/

You can watch the DVD before you start and decide what if not all the tasks fit your skills and tools. Good luck!

...If you get stuck, this forum is always a place to find help

 

[davegs]

Oh, I didn't realise that they had changed it. I did buy a Haynes of Nippys last week but aint got around to looking what it says. Seems a short interval though for a timing belt.

It aint a timing belt just drives the alternator, my mate a couple of years ago decided to change the belt on his 1100 at 86,000 miles!!. It came off like brand new!, my 1150 was changed at about 40,000 and it had stated to shred.

 

[DrFarkoff]

@ nobbyspiles

Seriously if it breaks you're into a whole new world of hurt

First you may get 15 to 20 miles before the battery dies but as it's failing there's increased current surge which is detrimental to the ecu s

The possibility of taking out the crank position sensor. Which ain't. Cheap

And having to sit at the roadside wondering how the f¥¥¥ am I gonna get this on

They are a non adjustable belt and “stretched” constantly so continuously run under much greater strain they can also bean absolute bollix to fit if it's cold as there's No give in the belt
Seriously for £15 and half an hour or so (depending on model) its worth doing

 

[Bobbin-Man]

We don't all have a garage...some of us poorer GS'rs work on London pavements!

I'm now trying to work out why you've resurrected a 10 month old thread to tell us this!

 

[DrFarkoff]

I'm now trying to work out why you've resurrected a 10 month old thread to tell us this!

Did it really do any harm???

 

[dashfixer]

The o/p doesn’t say what model/year his gs is, or whether it has abs. This has a bearing on the answer, for example 2008 on with full abs the fluid should be changed every other year. I believe that this is beyond most owners because of the pressurised servo system (I could be wrong, I often am).

But whether or not this is true why not do the bits that you are happy with doing yourself and get some-one else i.e. the dealer to do the bits you don’t want/feel happy to do yourself. This will definitely reduce the bill. It doesn’t have to be all or nothing.

All the best Rich

 

[Beemerman59]

The o/p doesn’t say what model/year his gs is, or whether it has abs. This has a bearing on the answer, for example 2008 on with full abs the fluid should be changed every other year. I believe that this is beyond most owners because of the pressurised servo system (I could be wrong, I often am).

But whether or not this is true why not do the bits that you are happy with doing yourself and get some-one else i.e. the dealer to do the bits you don’t want/feel happy to do yourself. This will definitely reduce the bill. It doesn’t have to be all or nothing.

All the best Rich

No servo's on 2008 ABS models. Bleeding the brakes on that model ( I have one) is easier than making breakfast - 10 minute job if you're taking it easy.

 

[Beemerman59]

I'm now trying to work out why you've resurrected a 10 month old thread to tell us this!

Probably used the search facility and simply replied to one of the threads - easily done.

 

[BBB61]

The o/p doesn’t say what model/year his gs is, or whether it has abs. This has a bearing on the answer, for example 2008 on with full abs the fluid should be changed every other year. I believe that this is beyond most owners because of the pressurised servo system (I could be wrong, I often am).

Servos were only fitted from 2004 to 2006. The servos do make some aspects of changing the fluid easier.

 

[xjr1200basher]

Just had my '59 plate GSA's 24,000 mile service done at Bahnstormers at Maidenhead, Berkshire for £287 including a courtesy bike

Can't fault them, and will continue to keep taking it to them for the next few years

It's peace of mind for me, don't really have the time to service it myself so i work overtime for a weekend and that pays for the work done!

 

[Blackal]

Just had my '59 plate GSA's 24,000 mile service done at Bahnstormers at Maidenhead, Berkshire for £287 including a courtesy bike

Can't fault them, and will continue to keep taking it to them for the next few years

It's peace of mind for me, don't really have the time to service it myself so i work overtime for a weekend and that pays for the work done!

That can be a good way of looking at it (until you figure that you're paying Income Tax and NI on the overtime - and VAT on the service )

Al

 

[xjr1200basher]

I try not to think about things like that, too depressing!!!

Suppose that would go for anything in life that you buy?

 

[dakarDude]

Could always ride down and see the chaps at ABW...

Good shout, mine is there for its 24k on 23rd Feb