3 week, 2,500 mile test of the new 1200GS LC

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Last month I was fortunate enough to be offered the chance of an ‘extended’ test ride of the new 1200 GS… needless to say I accepted without hesitation.

For those who don’t know me, my current steed is an 1100GS that I have had from new, bought 14 years ago in 1999, incidentally the OTR cost back then was £9,070.

The TE model I tested had been carefully run in (I have the track logs ;)) by BMW and had just had it’s first service, so it was quite literally ‘as new’.

As I had to pick the bike up from London, it was going to be interesting to see how familiar the new 1200 felt compared to my current steed, my 1100GS. It was 186 miles each way so perfect for a back to back comparison.

Within minutes of setting off the new GS had a certain familiarity about it and I certainly felt at home. Two things did strike me from the off though, the crispness and smooth power delivery of the new motor and the bikes nimbleness. Obviously this was more noticeable because I was comparing it with my 14 year old lardy 1100 which has only two thirds of the power and is carrying more weight.

Once out of the traffic and onto the motorway it was very obvious that this new 1200 could swallow huge mileages with so much ease. The ride home was certainly more pleasurable than the trip down.

Over the following 3 weeks I managed to cover 2,500 miles on a mix of Motorway, A roads, B roads lanes and Welsh logging tracks, but alas no serious off road was done.

The new GS is certainly endowed with a host of cutting edge technology that not only enhances performance and handling, but also enhances the ‘whole’ riding experience. There are 5 ‘riding modes’; Dynamic, Road, Rain, Enduro and finally Enduro pro. Selecting each mode not only changes the suspension and ABS, it also remaps the ‘fly by wire’ throttle and the ASC (Automatic Stability Control).
  • In Dynamic Mode the throttle is very responsive and the bike reacts to every minute twist of the wrist, it also stiffens the suspension and makes the bike feel ‘tighter’.
  • In Road Mode things become a little more relaxed but still it retains its poise albeit a little more relaxed.
  • In Rain Mode the whole bike feels softer and throttle responses are reined back in a little.
  • Enduro Mode was very ‘at home’ up in the Welsh logging trails where it would allow the back wheel to step out a little but still keep things under control.
As well as the above riding modes the rider can select any of the 9 different suspension settings using the Dynamic ESA Semi Active Suspension System. This was very useful when the road surfaces changed as they quite often do on Welsh roads.

Okay enough waffling about the huge leaps forward in technology, I’m sure you have all read about it elsewhere.

For me personally this is without doubt THE best GS yet to roll out of Germany…. build quality is second to none and this model has clearly been developed from the ground up. It’s not an out and out Sports bike, it’s not the ultimate tourer, and it won’t be winning the next Dakar…. But it certainly excels at all 3 and puts a huge grin on your face while doing so. As Giles has already said, “the LC is the new generation. It wears it's trousers with its pants showing, and is very computer literate”.

If I had to complain, my only issues in the 2,500 miles would be, firstly I feel the top two gears could be a little taller, maybe 5th 0.860 & 6th 0.760 instead of the current 0.943 for 5th & 0.848 for 6th. Secondly, the center stand foot needs shortening as (like others have said) it kept getting in the way when riding with the balls of my feet on the foot pegs. Thirdly, for a bike that has undergone monumental redevelopment I can not believe the amount of 'crap' that the rear wheel throws up when riding in the wet. One of the days I rode a short 80 mile trip on some back roads in the rain, this resulted in the whole rear of the bike (center of the wheel, exhaust, rear sub frame, both seats) + the back of myself being covered in road dirt. I have a feeling this is not just what the wheel is 'throwing up', but may also be some strange vacuum effect taking place that is sucking the wet/dirt in from the rear....

For those who wish to travel to the remote corners of the earth, I'm sure the amount of technology this new bike has would possibly be quite daunting, fixing any of the electronic wizardry is not something that could be done with a few spanners and a hammer.... but if like 99% of other GS riders whose travel remains within the confines of modern civilisation, then I'm sure BMWs first class dealer network would keep you going should any issues arise.

The 400 mile round trip to return the LC and pick my 1100 up revealed something that I wasn't expecting. I thought that when I got back on my old bike it would feel like a comfy pair of old boots..... what a shock I had, the 1100 now feels like an antiquated piece of technology from the stone age.... and that made for a tough ride home :(
 
I am sure some of the 11 Dinosaurs will be along to tell you that you are talking shite :blagblah, or maybe not.

Looks like you are in for a good a good discount on new one now though. 9070 or less I would say.
 
So, BMW have improved a bike over 14 years :nenau.....:augie
 

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A proper test ride, followed by a genuine review.

Excellent report fella .

it must be hard having a supermodel than going back to a fat bird !
 
what a shock I had, the 1100 now feels like an antiquated piece of technology from the stone age.... and that made for a tough ride home :(

Which it is.
My 1150 adv is a different beast to my 1200 adv. I've ridden both for years and the 1150 is my comfy sofa. It will appreciate if looked after. I'm less sure the 1200 will.
I'd love an 850 Le Mans Mk 1 ( had a Mk 2 ). Sometimes its just not important to be riding something that is cutting edge.
Less is sometimes more.
:thumb
 
.... it must be hard having a supermodel than going back to a fat bird !
I was really hoping/expecting that as soon as jumped back on the 1100 I would think "nah, I much prefer the old girl".... but what happened was a shock I wasn't prepared for or expecting.... as I pulled away I actually said out loud "oh my fcuking god", it really was that bad :D
 
I am sure some of the 11 Dinosaurs will be along to tell you that you are talking shite :blagblah, or maybe not.

Looks like you are in for a good a good discount on new one now though. 9070 or less I would say.

he's talking shiet :rob:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
 
Nice report Paul.:thumb So, you gonna buy one then?:augie
 
I guess all the new banner adverts promoting BMW rather than the UKGSer community will be staying then. :toungincheek
 
I was really hoping/expecting that as soon as jumped back on the 1100 I would think "nah, I much prefer the old girl".... but what happened was a shock I wasn't prepared for or expecting.... as I pulled away I actually said out loud "oh my fcuking god", it really was that bad :D

That's the exact reason why I'm doing all I can to stay away from the new 1190ADV. I really love my 950 and i want it to stay that way!
 
That's the exact reason why I'm doing all I can to stay away from the new 1190ADV. I really love my 950 and i want it to stay that way!

yup ride one and you will be Doooooooooooomed :D

im keeping the feck away from both otherwise the wife n kids will be up for sale:D
 
.... So, you gonna buy one then?:augie
Since buying my 1100 I have always been tempted by, and tried, each new model from the 1150 to the 1200 twin cam.... the result has always left me feeling “nice but what will it do that mine already won't”.

I guess the same could be said for the new 1200LC but believe me, it does everything so much better…. so I guess the answer to your question is most likely going to be a yes :thumb
 
Since buying my 1100 I have always been tempted by, and tried, each new model from the 1150 to the 1200 twin cam.... the result has always left me feeling “nice but what will it do that mine already won't”.

I guess the same could be said for the new 1200LC but believe me, it does everything so much better…. so I guess the answer to your question is most likely going to be a yes :thumb

Just make sure you try the 1190 as well Paul.......you might just find that it's a similar leap ahead of the toilet as the toilet is to your 1100 :cool:
 
Last month I was fortunate enough to be offered the chance of an ‘extended’ test ride of the new 1200 GS… needless to say I accepted without hesitation.

For those who don’t know me, my current steed is an 1100GS that I have had from new, bought 14 years ago in 1999, incidentally the OTR cost back then was £9,070.

The TE model I tested had been carefully run in (I have the track logs ;)) by BMW and had just had it’s first service, so it was quite literally ‘as new’.

As I had to pick the bike up from London, it was going to be interesting to see how familiar the new 1200 felt compared to my current steed, my 1100GS. It was 186 miles each way so perfect for a back to back comparison.

Within minutes of setting off the new GS had a certain familiarity about it and I certainly felt at home. Two things did strike me from the off though, the crispness and smooth power delivery of the new motor and the bikes nimbleness. Obviously this was more noticeable because I was comparing it with my 14 year old lardy 1100 which has only two thirds of the power and is carrying more weight.

Once out of the traffic and onto the motorway it was very obvious that this new 1200 could swallow huge mileages with so much ease. The ride home was certainly more pleasurable than the trip down.

Over the following 3 weeks I managed to cover 2,500 miles on a mix of Motorway, A roads, B roads lanes and Welsh logging tracks, but alas no serious off road was done.

The new GS is certainly endowed with a host of cutting edge technology that not only enhances performance and handling, but also enhances the ‘whole’ riding experience. There are 5 ‘riding modes’; Dynamic, Road, Rain, Enduro and finally Enduro pro. Selecting each mode not only changes the suspension and ABS, it also remaps the ‘fly by wire’ throttle and the ASC (Automatic Stability Control).
  • In Dynamic Mode the throttle is very responsive and the bike reacts to every minute twist of the wrist, it also stiffens the suspension and makes the bike feel ‘tighter’.
  • In Road Mode things become a little more relaxed but still it retains its poise albeit a little more relaxed.
  • In Rain Mode the whole bike feels softer and throttle responses are reined back in a little.
  • Enduro Mode was very ‘at home’ up in the Welsh logging trails where it would allow the back wheel to step out a little but still keep things under control.
As well as the above riding modes the rider can select any of the 9 different suspension settings using the Dynamic ESA Semi Active Suspension System. This was very useful when the road surfaces changed as they quite often do on Welsh roads.

Okay enough waffling about the huge leaps forward in technology, I’m sure you have all read about it elsewhere.

For me personally this is without doubt THE best GS yet to roll out of Germany…. build quality is second to none and this model has clearly been developed from the ground up. It’s not an out and out Sports bike, it’s not the ultimate tourer, and it won’t be winning the next Dakar…. But it certainly excels at all 3 and puts a huge grin on your face while doing so. As Giles has already said, “the LC is the new generation. It wears it's trousers with its pants showing, and is very computer literate”.

If I had to complain, my only issues in the 2,500 miles would be, firstly I feel the top two gears could be a little taller, maybe 5th 0.860 & 6th 0.760 instead of the current 0.943 for 5th & 0.848 for 6th. Secondly, the center stand foot needs shortening as (like others have said) it kept getting in the way when riding with the balls of my feet on the foot pegs. Thirdly, for a bike that has undergone monumental redevelopment I can not believe the amount of 'crap' that the rear wheel throws up when riding in the wet. One of the days I rode a short 80 mile trip on some back roads in the rain, this resulted in the whole rear of the bike (center of the wheel, exhaust, rear sub frame, both seats) + the back of myself being covered in road dirt. I have a feeling this is not just what the wheel is 'throwing up', but may also be some strange vacuum effect taking place that is sucking the wet/dirt in from the rear....

For those who wish to travel to the remote corners of the earth, I'm sure the amount of technology this new bike has would possibly be quite daunting, fixing any of the electronic wizardry is not something that could be done with a few spanners and a hammer.... but if like 99% of other GS riders whose travel remains within the confines of modern civilisation, then I'm sure BMWs first class dealer network would keep you going should any issues arise.

The 400 mile round trip to return the LC and pick my 1100 up revealed something that I wasn't expecting. I thought that when I got back on my old bike it would feel like a comfy pair of old boots..... what a shock I had, the 1100 now feels like an antiquated piece of technology from the stone age.... and that made for a tough ride home :(


Bloody hell !!!!


Did BMW buy you a new boat as well so you could tell us all how great their new Waitrose Courier is ???

I'm surprised they don't sponsor you and always give you the latest and greatest to swan around on !!!

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That's the exact reason why I'm doing all I can to stay away from the new 1190ADV. I really love my 950 and i want it to stay that way!

yup ride one and you will be Doooooooooooomed :D

im keeping the feck away from both otherwise the wife n kids will be up for sale:D

Actually not true.

Having rode the 1190,I got back on my 950SE and still loved it.Ok,yes the 1190 had 50% more power but my SE still felt lighter and just right.


I'd love an 1190R but couldn't part with the SE and can't justify or afford both.
 
Just make sure you try the 1190 as well Paul.......
Ah, you mean the Orange machine that has one of those oily/greasy things that makes the back wheel go round..... I think I'll pass on that ;)
 
Bloody hell !!!!

Did BMW buy you a new boat as well so you could tell us all how great their new Waitrose Courier is ???

I'm surprised they don't sponsor you and always give you the latest and greatest to swan around on !!!
When I was asked if I wanted to do a test I told them "yes, but if I think it's shite I will say so"

They replied saying "that is exactly what we want".

So what I have written is what I found..... unfortunately I can't help those who have a problem with that :kissy2 :comfort
 


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