660 & can bus

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My 660 has been wired into the can bus for a few months now and has always turned off after a minuet or so. Now it has stopped turning off and the can bus does not drop off unless I either turn the sat nav off or take it off. It does turn on. What is happening?:nenau
 
I have a 660 wired into canbus. I've not experienced this.

However mine does stay on for a up to about a minute or so after the bike turns off. But it does turn off, well it prompts me that its lost power and gives me the option
 
Not had the charger in. may it is because the sat nav had a fairly low battery and was drawing too much for the can bus to turn it off. Is there any way of re setting the can bus system? Tried disconecting the battery leaving it off a couple of mins then connecting it again still same thing. I will try leaving it and hope it sorts it's self out. They're supposed to be clever these can bus things arn't they?
 
Not had the charger in. may it is because the sat nav had a fairly low battery and was drawing too much for the can bus to turn it off. Is there any way of re setting the can bus system? Tried disconecting the battery leaving it off a couple of mins then connecting it again still same thing. I will try leaving it and hope it sorts it's self out. They're supposed to be clever these can bus things arn't they?

My understanding, as you say, is that if the Zumo battery is low it will keep the canbus open until it is charged.

Having said that, I always remove the Zumo when leaving the bike for both its safe keeping, & also because i then know there is no power draw issue.
 
Originally Posted by glenn2926
Not had the charger in. may it is because the sat nav had a fairly low battery and was drawing too much for the can bus to turn it off. Is there any way of re setting the can bus system? Tried disconecting the battery leaving it off a couple of mins then connecting it again still same thing. I will try leaving it and hope it sorts it's self out. They're supposed to be clever these can bus things arn't they?

My understanding, as you say, is that if the Zumo battery is low it will keep the canbus open until it is charged.

Having said that, I always remove the Zumo when leaving the bike for both its safe keeping, & also because i then know there is no power draw issue.

The Zumo's Battery should not be low, if you have been on a long enough journey it should be fully charged, once the Ignition is switched on, the Canbus Feed is open and the Zumo is powered of the Bike's Battery, this charges the Unit and gives power to the Zumo. once Ignition is turned off it should close the canbus feed, Hence the Battery Power Issue message appearing and you should experience no power draw issues to the Zumo or the Bike's Battery. you should always have more power in the Zumo than when first plug in to Mount after a ride out.
if you have wired a direct feed to the Bike's Battery you will experience a constant power feed to the Zumo even with the ignition switched off and this will lower the Bike's Battery whilst the Zumo is in the Mount, and even after the Zumo has been removed you will experience a slight power feed issue due to the Mount drawing power even thou nothing is attached. i have just changed from a Zumo 550 to the 660 both mounts fitted via the Canbus, Never any problems with the 550 but the 660 i have just experianced your fault symptom and more, here is a email i have just sent to Garmin Support and Pix mania........

i have recently been away on a trip and have been plagued by a problem with my Zumo 660 that i purchased at the Beginning of June 2012, the Unit was a Refurbished Unit Purchased off pixmania.com and came complete with 2yr Warranty.

I Seem to have a Intermiitate Power Fault -
I own a 2012 BMW GS1200 motorcycle, i purchased a Canbus Plug from BMW, i paid a Auto Electrician to attach the Canbus Plug on to the Garmin Supplied Mount and Plugged it into the Motorcycles Canbus Plug. I tested the Zumo on various occasion before i set off and had no trouble.
i had set off on my tour of Europe, when half way through the first day, the fault first appeared. I was riding along the Motorway and the Unit would appear to loose it main power feed by the screen turning dull and shortly after it would appear bright, then fall dull again, a short time later the Power Feed would appear to disappear again followed by a beep on my ear piece and then the "external power lost continue on battery power" Option/Message/Countdown appeared on the screen, i would press the Yes Option to carry on Battery Power, and then not one minute later the Screen would go Dull then Bright and the message would re appear prompting me to make the option again. after a short while it settled and i carried on, the same exact same process happened on the second day. On the morning of the Third day, i plugged the unit into its Mount as soon as i started the Bike the external power loss message appeared. then it stayed on battery mode, after riding for about an hour i became worried about battery life for my days riding so i stopped, removed all the Unit and Wires from the Bike and checked all canbus plug work carried out, checked all the unit for anything loose and cleaned all connections, i re-fit the mount,set up the unit and carried on my journey after a further 3 hrs the unit came back to life on it own accord, from then on it worked on the Motorcycles power source and never had a problem for the next 5 days. On the Final Morning of my Trip i Connected the Unit to the Mount and the "Insert Battery" message appeared above the Garmin Message Shown on Unit Start up. once removed from the Mount, the message disappeared but once placed back in the Mount, the Message would reappear. i removed and cleaned the contacts and replaced the Battery but this failed, i managed to make the fault disappear by turning the bike's Ignition On and Off several times. Since returning Home, i am in a process of finding the fault, yesterday i spoke to BMW just to see if they have ever experienced the faults i have described, they advised me that the Mount maybe Faulty. i removed the Canbus Plug and Wired the Mount direct tp the Battery Feed so i could rule out the Canbus Plug and yes the fault is still apparent. i feel the fault may lie in the Garmin Mount as Advised by my BMW service has Garmin ever heard of a problem like this. i await your Advice

Kind Regards and Thanks in Advance ............

Its was a pain in the neck, especially when in conjested spots and you needed it most! if i get a reply, i will post it up. also BMW said they'd have a quick diagnostic check next week. i'll let you know how it goes on.
 
hi there, i too have noticed my 660 not loosing power feed after bike turned off. my bike is a trophy 800 gs. it has happened a few times but seems to have been after i have been using nav off the bike and its battery has been low. maybe the bike keeps the power going to the nav till it gets charged up? its done it after starting off and stopping inside 2 miles for fuel. so hasnt had a chance to get properly charged up?
 
i charged the nav off the wall charger for a while. it seems to switch off with key now on the bike. if nav battery is low it must keep on charging after key is removed
 
canbus

Hi all
My 660 has been wired into the can bus for a few months now and has always turned off after a minuet or so. Now it has stopped turning off and the can bus does not drop off unless I either turn the sat nav off or take it off. It does turn on. What is happening?:nenau

get your bike checked out by Bm,the power take off that you are using does just that,it supplys 12v upto about 5amps.once the ignition is off the power should turn off as you say after a min os so,theres` no way the batt in the zumo can "TELL the canbus to keep the power on.
 
the times this has happened has been when i have been plotting a route on nav in the house just running on its own battery. the battery has been very low on it. once its charged it seems to turn off with key off on bike. checked manual there and it says the power sockets are switched off approximately 15 minutes after the ignition.
 
Hi - I have exactly the same problem, my 660 is 18 months old and has started to misbehave over the last 2 weeks - I assumed it was a loose connection so i have now wired up a backup supply - can you let me know how you get on with Garmin?
 
Hi All,
Thanks for all the replies. Sorry I have been a while getting back but been to Germany visiting a war grave. It is as I suspected I was using the sat nav off the bike therefore running the battery low. So the sat nav kept the can bus open to try to charge its battery. I charged the battery through the computer and tried again and the sat nav turned off through the can bus as it should. I have used it all last week when going to Germany and back and it has performed as it should. turning on and off through the can bus. So if you have the same problem try charging the sat nav battery from either the computer or wall socket and it should all sort its self out. once again thanks for all the replies I knew this site would help.:blagblah:blagblah:blagblah
 
Hi - I have exactly the same problem, my 660 is 18 months old and has started to misbehave over the last 2 weeks - I assumed it was a loose connection so i have now wired up a backup supply - can you let me know how you get on with Garmin?


Thank you for contacting Garmin Europe.

First of all, please accept our apologies for not answering your email
in the time we quoted on our website. Due to an unforeseeable high
volume of emails we?ve received, we?ve been working hard to respond to
all customer emails within our quoted time.

It sounds to me that the fault will be with the mount.

If you're able to provide the proof of purchase and your address I will
glady replace it for you.

If there is anything else I can help you with then please let me know.
Alternatively you can search for a solution here: http://www.garmin.co.uk/support

Kind regards,

Roderick Leach

Garmin Europe



sent my proof of purchase and got email today confirming part posted out, once received will fit and report on results.
 


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