82 R80G/S kick start

[Stevesplatto]

Hi,
I've got a problem with my kickstart. At rest it seems to stick out too far from the bike. I can push it in further but it doesnt feel right. kicking the bike over it feels mechnically wrong. Like there's something slipping inside the box.
Any ideas?
Cheers
s

 

[tuftywhite]

They do feel like they're slipping but mine works.

Try taking it off, not easy I know, to check that the cotta pin is in the correct position. It should be a cotta pin and not a bolt. The kick start should be tight against the bike but you can pull it out slightly to get your foot on it to use it.

There is supposed to be a technique to start the bike with the kick start like open the throttle a small way and let go, then kick twice in succession quickly.

Oh, and I've never been able to rely on the kickstart. Some times it works, sometimes it doesn't.

 

[cookie]

i find actually kicking mine like a normal bike is a total waste of effort.

works best if all the effort, and not much at that, is applied from the ankle, like a sort of stiff accelerator pedal.

i can start it more often than not from the kick start, but not if the batteries flat

also, if it doesn't go in 2 kicks, it never will, and it then takes a lot of churning on the starter motor to get it fired up.

wouldn't want to rely on it TBH.

 

[how much]

wow!


and there was me thinking my 80 g/s is nearly as imposssible to start on the kickstart as a CCM 604.....



hm

 

[Voyager]

Hi,
I've got a problem with my kickstart. At rest it seems to stick out too far from the bike. I can push it in further but it doesnt feel right. kicking the bike over it feels mechnically wrong. Like there's something slipping inside the box.
Any ideas?
Cheers
s

Its a robust mechanism and there's nothing in there that can slip. The Planet Gear on the Quadrant engages with a gear that is splined onto the Input Shaft:

However, as has been mentioned, the Cotter Pin must lock the lever securely to the shaft.

When you move the kickstart lever inwards, are you assisting the return spring (weak spring) or just moving the lever on the shaft (loose Cotter Pin) ???

The springs do lose their tension with age. Here is a 21-year-old one on the left compared with a new one. The old one has lost about 90 degrees of its tension.

The springs don't cost much (£7.60) but I'm afraid its a "gearbox out and cover off" job.

Bob.

 

[(RIP) maverick]

Sorry to hijack this thread but if someone has a kickstarter errrr kicking about spare please pm me. After one for my G/S

 

[Stevesplatto]

Its a robust mechanism and there's nothing in there that can slip. The Planet Gear on the Quadrant engages with a gear that is splined onto the Input Shaft:
When you move the kickstart lever inwards, are you assisting the return spring (weak spring) or just moving the lever on the shaft (loose Cotter Pin) ???

The springs do lose their tension with age. Here is a 21-year-old one on the left compared with a new one. The old one has lost about 90 degrees of its tension.

The springs don't cost much (£7.60) but I'm afraid its a "gearbox out and cover off" job.

Bob.

Stunning response Voyager, many thanks. From all the responses I'm thinking it must be the cotter pin not located properly. Feels like I'm turning it on a shaft rather than assisting a weak spring.
Takes me back to working on my bicycles when I was a kid

I have foolishly tried to kick start the bike when my battery ran low. That Gaston Rahier seems to have the knack but I've not been successful yet .

Cheers
Steve