A new Hexhead?

[Ibex]

Out for coffee this week and saw a 21 plate BMW 1200 Street model. No fairing, straight bars and two exhausts up one side? The thing that struck me though was that it wasn't a 1250 watercooled engine buit an oil cooled 1200 hexhead! Apparently having announced that they couldn't meet emissions without water cooling BMW seem to have reconsidered and launched this "new" Hexhead with a bigger oil cooler? Or have they just discovered a shedful of old 1200 Hexhead motors they need to use up?

 

[EKIMYRF]

Out for coffee this week and saw a 21 plate BMW 1200 Street model. No fairing, straight bars and two exhausts up one side? The thing that struck me though was that it wasn't a 1250 watercooled engine buit an oil cooled 1200 hexhead! Apparently having announced that they couldn't meet emissions without water cooling BMW seem to have reconsidered and launched this "new" Hexhead with a bigger oil cooler? Or have they just discovered a shedful of old 1200 Hexhead motors they need to use up?

errr..... Google R9T

 

[Santa-2512]

errr..... Google R9T

Or R12 nineT

 

[botus]

they have been playing with a new non GS aircooled thing... not sure why they can't make a real one

 

[mpgscott]

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[Neil W]

So the BMW management insisting in 2013 that the 1200 hexhead oil cooled motor was dead due to its inability to pass ever more stringent emissions standards was an absolute load of absolute c*nty b*ll*cks

 

[er-minio]

was an absolute load of absolute c*nty b*ll*cks

No, it might be because the legislation changed.

 

[Neil W]

No, it might be because the legislation changed.

If the legislation changed as they said so they could no longer homologate the hexhead motor and so built the lc model so how come they continued to built said motor and use it (fully homolgated) for a further 9 or 10 years

 

[er-minio]

I'm not sure about it, but I remember vaguely that the targets are (might) calculated over the total range of a specific manufacturer.

EG: Brand X does 99% super eco stuff and 1% supercar (within acceptable emissions) and it's kosher.
They might also have found ways of letting the hexhead pass emission tests, as it wasn't wildly out.

Again, I'm not sure.

 

[Ibex]

I think the biggest reason to go to LC is that you can run tighter tolerances in the bore and thus decrease emissions, because you can control those tolerances more closely. I did notice the oil cooler on this bike was maybe twice as big as on my own 2012 GSA, and who knows what internal changes might have been made - but in any event it must allow them to control engine temps as well as water cooling? I wouldn't have thought it was rocket science....

 

[botus]

the heads on a R-Ninety are actually different to the GS TC of 2010 - 13

of course emission stds never went backwards - indeed its moved forward by another far tougher edition - and it still walks it - they are just determined to steal money offering less reliable trash

 

[Santa-2512]

the heads on a R-Ninety are actually different to the GS TC of 2010 - 13

of course emission stds never went backwards - indeed its moved forward by another far tougher edition - and it still walks it - they are just determined to steal money offering less reliable trash

And so speaks the well poisoner