A possible tidy-up of the GPS section

[Wapping]

The GPS section is popular and sees a good amount of frequently very useful and / or interesting posts.

From time to time we have a tidy-up of the section, not least as things move on. I am wondering if it’s time to have another. If so, how might bods like to see it done?

My suggestions are:

A. Sort out the Garmin device section / sub-sections. Garmin (and to a lesser extent TomTom) used to dominate the market, with umpteen devices, often just known by a number. Without a doubt Garmin’s popularity is on the slide but, unlike a BlackBerry is not yet dead. Maybe retain the XT and XT2 devices (as they are both relatively new and definitely different devices from each other) but move Garmin Zumo 346-396 into the ‘Older devices’. sub-section.

B. Retain the MapSource and BaseCamp sections but perhaps combine them, in rather the same way as ‘Older devices’ is divided.

C. The Montana device seems to be the ‘go to’ choice for off-road device based navigation. Should it have its own section, just as say the XT and XT2 devices do? Or, might it be better to create a fresh sub-section, simply titled ‘off-road’ to cater for anything off-road, whether it be device or mapping? I think I favour the latter as it’s fairly niche and those that do a lot of off-roading generally know what they are talking about, so it can sort of run and moderate itself perhaps?

D. Set up something for Beeline, maybe?

E. Have a general tidy-up of the rest. Retaining (as opposed to archiving) most but perhaps reorganising the sections a bit.

Reorganisation does take a bit (sometimes a lot) of moving about but it does work. I think the tidied-up Travel section and its better presented sub-sections proves that. I am happy to talk with Paul to see what can / should be done but would like to hear from others too, please. To this end, please add any suggestions to this thread over the next month, we can then see what might or might not be popular and / or possible.

Thank you.

Richard

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[JohnnyBoxer]

The GPS section is popular and sees a good amount of frequently very useful and / or interesting posts.

From time to time we have a tidy-up of the section, not least as things move on. I am wondering if it’s time to have another. If so, how might bods like to see it done?

My suggestions are:

A. Sort out the Garmin device section / sub-sections. Garmin (and to a lesser extent TomTom) used to dominate the market, with umpteen devices, often just known by a number. Without a doubt Garmin’s popularity is on the slide but, unlike a BlackBerry is not yet dead. Maybe retain the XT and XT2 devices (as they are both relatively new and definitely different devices.from each other) but move Garmin Zumo 346-396 into the ‘Older devices’. sub-section.

B. Retain the MapSource and BaseCamp sections but perhaps combine them, rather the same way as ‘Older devices’ is divided.

C. The Montana device seems to be the ‘go to’ choice for off-road device based navigation. Should it have its own section, just as say the XT and XT2 devices do? Or, might it be better to create a fresh sub-section, simply titled ‘off-road’ to cater for anything off-road, whether it be device or mapping? I think I favour the latter as it’s fairly niche and those that do a lot of off-roading generally know what they are talking about, so it can sort of run and moderate itself perhaps?

D. Set up something for Beeline, maybe?

E. Have a general tidy-up of the rest. Retaining (as opposed to archiving) most but perhaps reorganising the sections a bit.

Reorganisation does take a bit (sometimes a lot) of moving about but it does work. I think the tidied-up Travel section and its better presented sub-sections proves that. I am happy to talk with Paul to see what can / should be done but would like to hear from others too, please. To this end, please add any suggestions to this thread over the next month, we can then see what might or might not be popular and / or possible.

Thank you.

Richard

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I think all of your observations and suggestions make sense

Do It !

 

[John Armstrong]

A lot if sense in your ideas.

That Garmin with the XT and certainly the XT2 moved away from the well known logics does mean that they require their own sections as you've wisely seen. Maybe have a cut-off of more than 10 years old = not its own section?

Regarding the Beeline, is there enough usage on the site for its own section?

 

[Wapping]

Regarding the Beeline, is there enough usage on the site for its own section?

I am wondering the same.

By the same token, aweness grows interest. If you build it, they will come. I’ve found the same when I’ve cut questions and comments out of unrelated threads, which are otherwise lost, most often in totally unrelated threads.



PS This was one take on the date order of Garmin’s automotive products. Lord only knows if it’s correct, as I doubt if even Garmin remember.

Garmin.

?/1998 StreetPilot I
11/1999 StreetPilot Colormap
3/2002 StreetPilot III
8/2003 StreetPilot 26x0
3/2005 StreetPilot C3x0
7/2005 StreetPilot 27x0
8/2005 StreetPilot i3
10/2005 StreetPilot i2, i5
12/2005 StreetPilot 7x00
10/2005 nuvi 300, 350
3/2006 StreetPilot c510, c530. c550
6/2006 nuvi 310, 360, 370, StreetPilot 2820
9/2006 nuvi 610, 660, 670
2/2007 StreetPilot c580
4/2007 nuvi 2x0, 600, 650, 680
7/2007 nuvi 2x0W; zumo 450, 500, 550
8/2007 nuvi 7x0
2/2008 nuvi 5000
3/2008 nuvi 2x5, 2x5W
6/2008 nuvi 8x0
7/2008 nuvi 5x0
8/2008 nuvi 7x5
3/2009 nuvi 8x5
4/2009 nuvi 12x0, 13x0, 465T; zumo 660
7/2009 nuvi 14x0
10/2009 nuvi 1690
3/2010 zumo 220
4/2010 nuvi 37x0
5/2010 nuvi 295w, 1100; zumo 665
9/2010 nuvi 23xx
11/2010 live 1695
2/2011 nuvi 24x0; dezl 560
5/2011 nuvi 22xx
10/2011 nuvi 30, 40, 50, 24x5, 25x5, 34x0
1/2012 nuvi 35x0
6/2012 zumo 350
10/2012 dezl 760
1/2013 nuvi 42, 44, 52, 54
3/2013 nuvi 24x7, 25x7, 27x7
4/2013 nuvi 3597, fleet 590
7/2013 RV 760
9/2013 nuvi 2598; zumo 390
1/2014 nuvi 55, 56, 65, 66
2/2014 nuvi 2798
4/2014 zumo 590
9/2014 nuvi 25x9, 26x9, 2789
12/2014 fleet 660, 670
1/2015 nuvi 57, 58, 67, 68; dezl 570, 770
5/2015 nuviCam
7/2015 RV 660; dezlcam
1/2016 Drive 5, 50, 60; DriveSmart 50, 60, 70
3/2016 zumo 395, 595
4/2016 DriveAssist 50; DriveLuxe 50
1/2017 Drive 51, 61;
2/2017 DriveSmart 51; DriveAssist 51; DriveLuxe 51
3/2017 DriveSmart 61; RV 770
9/2017 Dezl 580
4/2018 zumo 396
6/2018 Dezl 780; Dezlcam 785
1/2019 Drive 52; Drivesmart 55, 65, 71
4/2019 RV 780
6/2019 RV 785
8/2019 Overlander
3/2020 zumo XT
6/2020 Dezl OTR700, 800, 1000; RV 890
1/2021 RV 1090
10/2021 DriveSmart 66, 76, 86
8/2022 DriveCam 76; RVCam 795; RV 795
4/2023 Drive 53; zumo XT2

Apparently, the very popular 660 was way back in 2006. That’s very nearly an entire generation ago, in human terms.

 

[Blue]

A section for MRA ? People always looking for help

 

[DaddyPaddy]

With respect and forgive my ignorance a gpx file library would be fantastic. Ridden routes with poi’s, mileage, info etc all partitioned into geographical locations. I’ve used some of the Ride ones from their site which worked out really well. Believe it would benefit a lot of members with trip planning/ annual tour etc. Oh and a unicorn regards

 

[wessie]

Regarding the Beeline, is there enough usage on the site for its own section?

they have a relatively new version which seems to be gaining traction as it has more functionality

as people with older bikes without inbuilt carplay move away from Garmin/Tomtom then they are going to look for a cheap and easy way to use navigation on a phone without attaching the actual phone to the bike. Beeline will do this at a price and modest learning curve that some might find attractive, compared to say an MRA subscription (separate planner and satnav apps) and Chigee type device.

 

[Wapping]

A section for MRA ? People always looking for help

What’s MRA? I guess MyRoute App?

There is already two separate MyRoute sections. They were split into two, when MyRoute made their big revamp, to hopefully differentiate between the navigation app and its Cloud based route creation sibling. I wouldn’t propose combing them back together or deleting them.

 

[mw3230]

Good suggestion. Go for it

 

[wessie]

With respect and forgive my ignorance a gpx file library would be fantastic. Ridden routes with poi’s, mileage, info etc all partitioned into geographical locations. I’ve used some of the Ride ones from their site which worked out really well. Believe it would benefit a lot of members with trip planning/ annual tour etc. Oh and a unicorn regards

many are already embedded within trip reports or shared on request if you post in the trip planning section

 

[Wapping]

With respect and forgive my ignorance a gpx file library would be fantastic. Ridden routes with poi’s, mileage, info etc all partitioned into geographical locations. I’ve used some of the Ride ones from their site which worked out really well. Believe it would benefit a lot of members with trip planning/ annual tour etc. Oh and a unicorn regards

We had that for a long time but it fizzled out, with all but zero traffic for several years. With Paul’s agreement it was closed down, the posts within it moved (where possible) appropriately.

What does work though, is adding GPX files to Trip Reports and in the Travel section in general. Given the ease by which, for example, MyRoute files can be made public and shared, this still seems to be the way to go, not least as the Travel section is now very much more regional.

 

[Wapping]

Good suggestion. Go for it

Thank you.

It’s not something I can do off my own bat, but Paul’s been very supportive of past initiatives.

 

[Snaf]

A seperate section for phone/tablet devices running navigation apps would seem sensible to me. Although there's already a lot of sub sections and one for tablets.

 

[stever1]

Perhaps a section for the Chigee/capuride devices.

 

[Wapping]

A seperate section for phone/tablet devices running navigation apps would seem sensible to me. Although there's already a lot of sub sections and one for tablets.

Perhaps a section for the Chigee/capuride devices.…

We set up a section for ‘tablets’ specifically and another to cater for the rise of the Chigee type ‘mirroring’ devices as a whole. I wouldn’t propose killing these off, unless there is a better way?

 

[edzt]

I’d like to see a Beeline section, but I don’t know how much hassle it is to create


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[Wapping]

Quick question.

Does tablets need to be combined with Chigee etc? I don’t use either, so I have no idea. That said, I’ve always imagined them to be distinct from each other.

 

[Wapping]

I’d like to see a Beeline section, but I don’t know how much hassle it is to create

As a part of a reorganisation, it’s maybe not too hard to create. Paul and son, will know. What does take time is then shifting posts into the new section(s) but that only has to be done once by one of the galley slaves.

 

[Blue]

What’s MRA? I guess MyRoute App?

There is already two separate MyRoute sections. They were split into two, when MyRoute made their big revamp, to hopefully differentiate between the navigation app and its Cloud based route creation sibling). I wouldn’t propose combing them back together or deleting them.

What a good guess.

 

[richardbd]

This seems like a good idea Richard.

I suspect that the BMW/Garmin units, primarily Nav 5 and 6 are still the most common amongst inmates, even if they are no longer available.

A section for them may still make sense though…