Abba Stand and Skylift

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Has anyone used an Abba Stand and Skylift combo to lift their 1150GS Adv? I'd prefer a Skylift over a traditional workshop bench or the Eazyrizer if possible.

To my mind, I don't think an Abba Stand would work on an 1150GSA but I stand to be corrected.

TIA.
 
I haven't but am interested in buying one for my KTM for deep cleaning and basic maintenance. need to knock up a very smooth concrete floor first, but once done will probably get one .... :thumb2
 
Things might have changed but I checked last year and they didn't have a kit to lift an r1150gs but could supply fittings for my 2014 rt LC........I'm still crawling about on the floor at the moment. I have an abba stand that I have used on about 4 bikes excellent piece of kit including footrest fittings so that you cout remove swingarms but redundant at the moment.
 
I mailed them a couple of days ago and no they don’t have adaptors for the 1150 saying the swing arm is on the wrong side for their lift
 
Hi, I've got a Bursig Stand which if you have a look at them are awesome, this is for my S1000xr.

The downside is that they dont seem to make a plate for the 1150........that said there are other makes out there equally as good which may. Or alternatively have a look at Demon Tweeks website and their Warrior Stand..........they are selling these for £120!! which seem very cheap and you could in reality make your own adapter. Just a thought which may help. Cheers Ali
 
Things might have changed but I checked last year and they didn't have a kit to lift an r1150gs but could supply fittings for my 2014 rt LC........I'm still crawling about on the floor at the moment. I have an abba stand that I have used on about 4 bikes excellent piece of kit including footrest fittings so that you cout remove swingarms but redundant at the moment.

Same as. My Abba stand gets used only by my mate now given I can't use it on my GS and my Caponord has a centre stand (though apparently I could use the stand and skylift for lifting the Capo).

I mailed them a couple of days ago and no they don’t have adaptors for the 1150 saying the swing arm is on the wrong side for their lift

I emailed them last Friday but heard back so am grateful for you posting a confirmation it doesn't work. Looks like it's on to the Big Blue Eazyrizer.
 
Hi, I've got a Bursig Stand which if you have a look at them are awesome, this is for my S1000xr.

The downside is that they dont seem to make a plate for the 1150........that said there are other makes out there equally as good which may. Or alternatively have a look at Demon Tweeks website and their Warrior Stand..........they are selling these for £120!! which seem very cheap and you could in reality make your own adapter. Just a thought which may help. Cheers Ali

Thanks, I'll have a look. :)
 
Just looking about there is also one called the EazyRider Red Lift..............supplied by Quaser Products Ltd in Tamworth, may be worth looking at their website and a conversation with them?
 
Just looking about there is also one called the EazyRider Red Lift..............supplied by Quaser Products Ltd in Tamworth, may be worth looking at their website and a conversation with them?

I'm just about to push the button on the Big Blue - that's the one for lifting the heavier bikes apparently. I'd still prefer the Skylift given you can tilt the bike but beggars and choosers 'n' all that.
 
Pretty sure theres been a similar thread about this before. Seem to recall the only reason the older GSs dont fit is the lack of the swing arm on the nearside to place the retaining strap around. You just have to be a little resourceful in finding an alternative postion for a strap, around the subframe instead.

Do a search, the threads around somewhere.
 
Pretty sure theres been a similar thread about this before. Seem to recall the only reason the older GSs dont fit is the lack of the swing arm on the nearside to place the retaining strap around. You just have to be a little resourceful in finding an alternative postion for a strap, around the subframe instead.

Do a search, the threads around somewhere.

I did indeed try searching, found loads of posts about Abba stands and later model bikes but not much on the 1150.


I called Abba Stands, they say that the skylift is a no-no on the 1150GS and any other models where the SSSA in on the right hand side of the bike and the Abba stand needing to be orientated in the correct direction so as to fit on to the Skylift. I've no idea if a little imagination would prove them wrong, they know better than me so I've plumped for a Big Blue Eazy Rizer from Quasar Products, should get delivered by Saturday. :D
 
So on Thursday early afternoon I called Quasar Products to order a Big Blue Eazy Rizer stand. Spoke to a gentleman called Dave who was very knowledgeable and guided me through what I needed. Apparently for the 1150 range you definitely need the Big Blue rather than the smaller red stand, more to do with the reach of the stand underneath the bike as opposed to any difference in the lifting mechanism. Total cost with the bike mounts was £430.

The stand was delivered yesterday by UPS. It comes in two large heavy boxes. This is probably a delivery you want to be in for - I can imagine neighbours being a bit peeved having to temporarily store such cumbersome items and you don’t want to have to collect this from the delivery depot without another pair of hands to help lift into the car (which the boxes will fit into).

Tools I used to construct the lift:

- Torque wrench;
- 17mm socket and ratchet;
- 17mm spanner;
- 8mm spanner;
- 7mm socket or spanner;
- PZ2 screwdriver (no idea if this an exact match but it served my purpose);
- Pliers for removing split pin;
- 3mm Allen key (it needs to fit through a small aperture so a 3mm hex bit on a driver won’t work);
- Hammer;
- 22mm socket (this is for operating the lift, I think one is supposed to come with the pack but I didn’t get one - no biggie);
- 13mm spanner x 2 (or spanner and socket) for the nuts securing the floor peg mounts.

I took me nearly three hours to put together but (a) I was distracted with Line of Duty on in the background and (b) the working parts are heavy and because I was by myself it took a bit patience to get parts to line up correctly so that I could put the necessary bolts in place. It would be much quicker if you had someone help.

The instructions are comprehensive and it’s quite hard to go wrong. Two things the instructions mention when you’re half way through construction:

1. The threaded rod which acts as the lift mechanism needs to be greased (plenty of LM grease is supplied) but it’s exposed, less so with the included aluminium guard but you can go further by buying some 15mm copper pipe insulation to place around/over the threaded rod. Now that I’ve put the lift together I’m not going to bother with the copper pipe. I’ve greased the lift mechanism well enough for it to not be a concern in my garage.

2. Quasar Products advise you need to use a 2-speed power drill and advice these can be bought from the likes of eBay/B&Q/Wickes etc. But be sure to look for the “Rotary Dial Speed 1 & 2 machines”. Variable speed, I assume cordless, machines do not have enough torque and will suffer burnout. The instructions actually suggest buying a Parkside PNS 300 A1 -240v Drill from eBay, cost around £40. ***Note - this is taken straight from the instructions, not from my experience.***

I guess the lift can be used without the drill, instead using a 22mm socket on a ratchet but quite honestly that would be a pain in the arse.

Some other points to note:

- Once built, the lift does take up a bit of space, a similar cubic area to a tumble dryer;
- It is not collapsible unless you start undoing bolts;
- The lift has reasonably robust castors for moving it around (my garage is carpeted, YMMV);
- Once built, the lift will raise to a height of 3ft max;
- You can use a padlock as a failsafe if you intend to leave your bike at height for any length of time but the padlock needs to purchased separately and I’m exactly sure which lock will fit, more investigation needed.

I’ve not used it on either of my bikes yet, need some downtime from the kids before I attempt that but I’ll post back later.

:)
 
So on Thursday early afternoon I called Quasar Products to order a Big Blue Eazy Rizer stand. Spoke to a gentleman called Dave who was very knowledgeable and guided me through what I needed. Apparently for the 1150 range you definitely need the Big Blue rather than the smaller red stand, more to do with the reach of the stand underneath the bike as opposed to any difference in the lifting mechanism. Total cost with the bike mounts was £430.

The stand was delivered yesterday by UPS. It comes in two large heavy boxes. This is probably a delivery you want to be in for - I can imagine neighbours being a bit peeved having to temporarily store such cumbersome items and you don’t want to have to collect this from the delivery depot without another pair of hands to help lift into the car (which the boxes will fit into).

Tools I used to construct the lift:

- Torque wrench;
- 17mm socket and ratchet;
- 17mm spanner;
- 8mm spanner;
- 7mm socket or spanner;
- PZ2 screwdriver (no idea if this an exact match but it served my purpose);
- Pliers for removing split pin;
- 3mm Allen key (it needs to fit through a small aperture so a 3mm hex bit on a driver won’t work);
- Hammer;
- 22mm socket (this is for operating the lift, I think one is supposed to come with the pack but I didn’t get one - no biggie);
- 13mm spanner x 2 (or spanner and socket) for the nuts securing the floor peg mounts.

I took me nearly three hours to put together but (a) I was distracted with Line of Duty on in the background and (b) the working parts are heavy and because I was by myself it took a bit patience to get parts to line up correctly so that I could put the necessary bolts in place. It would be much quicker if you had someone help.

The instructions are comprehensive and it’s quite hard to go wrong. Two things the instructions mention when you’re half way through construction:

1. The threaded rod which acts as the lift mechanism needs to be greased (plenty of LM grease is supplied) but it’s exposed, less so with the included aluminium guard but you can go further by buying some 15mm copper pipe insulation to place around/over the threaded rod. Now that I’ve put the lift together I’m not going to bother with the copper pipe. I’ve greased the lift mechanism well enough for it to not be a concern in my garage.

2. Quasar Products advise you need to use a 2-speed power drill and advice these can be bought from the likes of eBay/B&Q/Wickes etc. But be sure to look for the “Rotary Dial Speed 1 & 2 machines”. Variable speed, I assume cordless, machines do not have enough torque and will suffer burnout. The instructions actually suggest buying a Parkside PNS 300 A1 -240v Drill from eBay, cost around £40. ***Note - this is taken straight from the instructions, not from my experience.***

I guess the lift can be used without the drill, instead using a 22mm socket on a ratchet but quite honestly that would be a pain in the arse.

Some other points to note:

- Once built, the lift does take up a bit of space, a similar cubic area to a tumble dryer;
- It is not collapsible unless you start undoing bolts;
- The lift has reasonably robust castors for moving it around (my garage is carpeted, YMMV);
- Once built, the lift will raise to a height of 3ft max;
- You can use a padlock as a failsafe if you intend to leave your bike at height for any length of time but the padlock needs to purchased separately and I’m exactly sure which lock will fit, more investigation needed.

I’ve not used it on either of my bikes yet, need some downtime from the kids before I attempt that but I’ll post back later.

:)

get her attached and get some pictures up

I have googled these and seen harleys etc on them, I am curious how a gs attaches to such a device.

it would be so handy for washing the bike
 
Following this with interest. I was going to post my own thread about bike lifts today.
I'm interested in getting one for my 1150 gs, suitable for servicing, ie removing oil filters, draining oil filters etc.
I'll not hijack this thread but if anyone knows the whereabouts of the other thread mentioned and could post a link, I'd be very grateful (always seem to struggle with searches for some reason) :blast
 
I had a look at my selection of Abba bobbins and I have a pair that fit nicely in my R850GS swing arm pivots. However, my Bandit is currently on my lift and has been a while, although with the current break I’m having from work, I may just get it done soon. I’ll then give my 850 a try on the lift. But, I’m not sure if the 1150 has the same swing arm bolts as an 850/1100!!
 
Hmm, big blue, or Skylift?????

The big blue looks easier to use, with less crawling around to attach it to the stand (less chance of the bike falling over?).
 
Hmm, big blue, or Skylift?????

The big blue looks easier to use, with less crawling around to attach it to the stand (less chance of the bike falling over?).

Trust me sky lift is better

Ask ( Roadrash) Andy he has had both
 
Hmm, big blue, or Skylift?????

The big blue looks easier to use, with less crawling around to attach it to the stand (less chance of the bike falling over?).

I find the big blue isn’t that easy to use. The universal kit that they provide will lift an 1150, using the engine casing and the foot pegs. But you have to lift the bike with the main stand retracted so it takes a bit of fiddling to get the big blue in the correct position and orientation of the pads so that when you lift the bike, the foot pegs and engine casing contact the lift pads correctly. The big blue only has two wheels for initial positioning so once the bike is lifted, there is no way to move it around, and it also makes it awkward for precise positioning prior to the lift.

I have one, but seldom use it other than when heavy cleaning the bike.

I think Mikeyboy uses the big blue to service his bikes, I seem to recall seeing them in use in some of his picture posts, and if so, would have more experience in their use.

Ian
 
Sorry folks, I’ve only just had a chance to get the bike on to the Big Blue - despite working from home, the Covid-19 situation has actually meant more work for me.

I can’t comment if the Skylift is easier to use than the Big Blue but I suspect it probably is easier if only just. Setting up the brackets on the Big Blue has taken me the best part of 40 minutes, the big concern making sure the foot peg/lift plates are in the correct position so that the bike gets raised squarely. Obviously this won’t be an issue going forward.

As Ian points out, the Big Blue works only with the centre-stand retracted (you also have to extend the side stand so that the lifting brackets can get a good connection to the foot pegs!), This means you either need another person to hold the bike upright whilst you connect the Big Blue’s foot peg mounts/brackets, or a wheel chock. TBF, the Quasar website does say you need a wheel chock, I just thought I’d chance it but I was proved wrong. I bought a cheap wheel chock from Amazon for £35. It works okay but you need to get some weight behind the chock otherwise the weight of the GSA just pushes the chock away. I used a full 20l jerry can FWIW. The Quasar products chock looks a lot mor substantial and much better quality.

Once the bike is lifted it cannot be easily moved around the garage, if at all but I knew that before I bought the Big Blue. The bike feels pretty solid on the stand, even when rocked (albeit gently, tried to mimic accidentally knocking the bike).

If you add the cost of the Quasar wheel chock to the cost of the Big Blue you’re up at £535 which is Skylift and Abba Stand money.

I cannot comment if the Skylift is better but what I can say is that I’m happy with the Big Blue. I mentioned earlier in the thread that I spoke with Abba and they said their stand doesn’t work with RHS swingarms but I can’t remember exactly why. Appreciate that some people might be able to make a work around to use the Abba stand but I’m not that way minded.

I have taken some photos. They’re not great but I’ll try to get them posted.
 
Bike is still up on the stand so happy to get specific photos if needed.
 

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