ABS Brakes

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Has anyone any ideas how to improve the EVO brakes on a 02 GS

I had a nasty moment at the weekend with a mondeo...the brakes front and rear were full on but the beast just did not want to stop. Any ideas how to improve them.
 
KINGDICKY said:
Has anyone any ideas how to improve the EVO brakes on a 02 GS

I had a nasty moment at the weekend with a mondeo...the brakes front and rear were full on but the beast just did not want to stop. Any ideas how to improve them.

Slow Down.
 
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I'd get em checked for peace of mind,I know someone who had total brake failure on a EVO servo equipped GS,happened twice in the space of a fortnight,resulted in a new servo unit-replaced under warranty!
Don't think it's a common fault though,never heard of it before-yet!
 
Weightwatchers ???

Hmm, mucho help Luke, surely this is a info forum not a sarcasm forum?
As for the evo brakes, in the fatherland there have been reports of substandard brake hoses causing braking problems, namely not stopping in time. Not sure what the reasons would be, I personally would rather not have the ABS and then blame myself when I binned it rather than rely on a computer. However, no brakes when you need them are a bad bad thing, try and reproduce the symptoms again on a quiet bit of road just in case they were working overtime and trying to slow you down when you met the mondeo.
As an aside, I have heard that it is possible to re-programme the ABS brain to "overcome" any inaccuracies, but how true this info is I am not sure.
As for KINGDICKY, what weight were you carrying ? Just yourself or were you with pillion and luggage, several reports coming in that fully loaded GS's having slowing probs. Best results are to use the 1150R or 110S brake disks, apparently.
 
Numerous tests in the media have shown the greater distance needed for an ABS set up to come to rest. THey did not skid of course. But thirty odd feet from a speed I cannot remember is bloody scary to me. It was in one of the Mags so i stand to be corrected on this one. Anyone else read a similar article.
 
Re: Crappy ABS

Madmountainman said:
Easy solution... turn em off!!!

What he /\ said.


Seriously.


It's been proven, time and time again, that an experienced rider can stop a bike without ABS far quicker than one with ABS.
 
not wanting to wake the sleeping giant that is 'ABS or not to ABS'!!

but i spent weeks umming and arring until i finally wrote a check last week for an 01 non-ABS model. man, i was pleased i did. that was saturday, on sunday i was hacking it down a country lane when i was confronted with the classic scenario of volvo pulling slowly out in front of my whilst i was moving v. quick. slammed on the brakes and the front tyre squealed and skipping momentarily before pulling the bike quickly and safely, and all the while i could feel exactly what was going on through the lever.

so i'd agree with them upstairs and turn it off....

pr0ne
 
Better stopping with ABS

Just in case you didn't know, the ABS system works by reducing the brake line pressure when a wheel is locked - thus if you are trying to stop ASAP, you will get normal brakes up to the point that a lock is detected, then the ABS reduces the pressure to re-start the wheel.

The temptation is then to apply more and more pressure to the lever/pedal to get more braking. When the ABS is in activity, it will simply back off the pressure so there is no additional braking.

There is a trick to getting the best out of any good abs system - the BMW system is as good as any.

The trick is to NOT apply full lever and pedal pressure when the ABS triggers. Use the ABS as an indicator to tell you when the front wheel is just locking, release the pressure slightly, and reapply to maintain your braking force.

In essence, use it as you would a non-ABS bike, but with the added bonus that you can brake much harder and sooner until it just chirps at you, and then "Play" this near-locking area to maintain the best braking force.

It's a funny thing to master - not one that you want to try in the wet on a non-abs bike, but you can do it with confidence on an ABS bike.
 
I ordered my GS without ABS, and at the time wondered if I may be the only one on the roads without it. I am pleased that others members also feel the same about ABS on a bike as I do.

Don't like it, the GS doesn't need it, I spent the cash on other toys for the bike.

But...what do I know ?......


Marcus:D :beer:
 


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