ABS Deactivating on 1250 GS

[fred_jb]

I've just got back from about 2000 miles touring in Spain. The bike was generally brilliant, both two-up and solo - I did some of both because my wife flew in to Madrid where I met her and flew back from Valencia, as she doesn't like the ferry trip. Got a worst fuel consumption of 41 and a best of 51 mpg which I was quite happy with.

The only problem was that twice during the trip the ABS light has stayed on when riding, where it should go off once you are moving. The menu seemed to indicate that ABS had been turned off, though I didn't deliberately switch it off, and don't know what I might have done to switch it off without realising - surely it shouldn't be easy to deactivate accidentally?

I fiddled with the menu to try to get it back but didn't succeed initially but did eventually get it to turn back on on both occasions. I will have to study the menu and have a play with the buttons to see if there was any way I had switched it off, but in the meantime, has anyone else had a similar problem?

Fred

 

[Deleted account 191119001]

You could have pressed the ABS button by accident for a few seconds while riding, or you could have damaged the ring, hit a stone or something riding, or simply dirt around the ring and sensors, hopefully only dirt after 2000 miles.

 

[fred_jb]

You could have pressed the ABS button by accident for a few seconds while riding, or you could have damaged the ring, hit a stone or something riding, or simply dirt around the ring and sensors, hopefully only dirt after 2000 miles.

Looks like a long accidental press on the ABS button would be enough to turn it off, so I guess that is the most likely thing to have happened. I always thought it was made quite difficult to turn off ABS, but obviously not!

 

[Fullchat]

I think I'm right in saying that in the menus when you get to 'ABS or TC Off' its inviting you to turn it off and it is not actually 'Off' at that point ?

 

[stick]

I’m sure you can’t turn off the abs , you can however turn of the traction control which is the same button

 

[Deleted account 191119001]

I’m sure you can’t turn off the abs , you can however turn of the traction control which is the same button

Yep tad of confusion in the wording, but think you are correct, and this is what Fred is surely reffering to............

 

[fred_jb]

I’m sure you can’t turn off the abs , you can however turn of the traction control which is the same button

I find the menu that appears when you press the ABS button quite confusing, and very unclear whether you are turning things off or on. However, there are two warning lights that are supposed to go out once you are moving.

Looking at this while on the bike and without my reading glasses on, the upper one which is vaguely circular I took to be the TC light and the lower triangular symbol I thought was the ABS. Looks like I had that wrong, and it is the lower triangular light that has been staying on, which it seems is the TC warning light.

Will look into this more closely tomorrow with manual in hand, not that I find it particularly helpful, and with my reading glasses on!

 

[Andi_archer]

If the warning light is ON whilst riding the device is disabled

 

[moody]

The same happened to me - Traction control had been turned off.
I think I had pressed the traction control button for a couple of seconds , rather than the menu button, when trying to connect Sat Nav to TFT.

 

[sven]

I managed to accidentally turn off the traction control and the abs too after I fitted the Pro plug.

It was easy to turn the traction back on, but the abs took a bit of fiddling,

 

[Deleted account 191119001]

I managed to accidentally turn off the traction control and the abs too after I fitted the Pro plug.

It was easy to turn the traction back on, but the abs took a bit of fiddling,

Yep happened to me at the beginning, and if you keep the Enduro pro plug fitted it remembers the settings when you turn the bike on and off, however, when no plug is attached when bike is turned off and on again all settings go back to standard.......which I find better now, pesky plug is in the toolbox.

 

[fred_jb]

If the warning light is ON whilst riding the device is disabled

It is not so much the warning light that is the problem, though the manual is very obscure about what status of the light corresponds to what condition when not riding - it just says wait until the warning light changes its display behaviour, but if you are not sure where you are starting from that is not that useful. The real issue to me is what appears on the TFT when you press the ABS button. I don't think the manual adequately explains what you see there and how to change it. Goodness knows what tortured Teutonic mind devised this obscure system, but you would have thought that with a TFT display and wonderwheel at their disposal they could have made the whole thing much more straightforward.

 

[fred_jb]

Yep happened to me at the beginning, and if you keep the Enduro pro plug fitted it remembers the settings when you turn the bike on and off, however, when no plug is attached when bike is turned off and on again all settings go back to standard.......which I find better now, pesky plug is in the toolbox.

Well if they are going to have changes to ABS and TC persist across switch off and switch on when you have the PRO option, then it is even more important that they make the process of switching ABS and TC on and off simple and intuitive, and it is certainly not that at the moment IMHO.

 

[Deleted account 191119001]

Well if they are going to have changes to ABS and TC persist across switch off and switch on when you have the PRO option, then it is even more important that they make the process of switching ABS and TC on and off simple and intuitive, and it is certainly not that at the moment IMHO.

I know you have a TFT but this old video gives an idea of the different lights.

 

[fred_jb]

I’m sure you can’t turn off the abs , you can however turn of the traction control which is the same button

Well starting on page 76 (of the 1250 manual) it goes through turning off and turning on ABS, ASC (automatic stability control) and DTC (traction control) so it seems you can turn off ABS. However, having read it and tried to follow it several times I remain somewhat baffled. They also refer to ASC/DTC so I am unclear as to whether these share a warning light because there only seem to be two or whether you only have one or the other fitted/enabled since the manual talks about with and without Pro. Maybe it is ASC without Pro, but DTC with Pro?

I think I'm a fairly intelligent person, so maybe I'm just over-thinking it, but even if I finally work it out, I know I will never remember how it works if it happens again mid-trip. It really shouldn't be this hard, but when designing a human interface to a machine of any sort, once you start relying on the same button doing different things if you short press it or long press it, especially for functions that are not often used, then I think as a designer you have failed.

 

[fred_jb]

I know you have a TFT but this old video gives an idea of the different lights.

Thanks for that, it is helpful, though unless I missed it, it does not show how to turn ABS and DTC back on with the buttons, presumably because on that bike it can be simply done just by turning off the ignition, but as you know, that is not the case when you have the Pro option.

 

[Deleted account 191119001]

Thanks for that, it is helpful, though unless I missed it, it does not show how to turn ABS and DTC back on with the buttons, presumably because on that bike it can be simply done just by turning off the ignition, but as you know, that is not the case when you have the Pro option.

I might be missing something but the Pro option is only activated when you put that pesky little plug that is normally under the seat in its socket after the first service, unles things have changed with the new 1250, if that plug is removed, everything should go back to standard when you turn of the bike and back on again, the plug I am referring to is the one below.

 

[fred_jb]

Yes, I understand that, but I want the Pro functionality so want to leave the Pro plug connected. Unfortunately the side effect of that is to make any changes to ABS or DTC permanent which in turn means that I need to know how turn these functions back on manually if I should accidentally turn either or both off. That is what I am struggling with.

 

[Matty589]

If a long press turns it off does another long press not turn it back on again?

 

[fred_jb]

If a long press turns it off does another long press not turn it back on again?

Possibly, but I find it difficult to be sure which function I am changing, and whether the change has actually happened. The only definitive test seems to be to go for a ride and see if the warning lights both go off!