Thanks - I have relied on the linked brakes + ABS (rarely activated) up to now, so I'll need to relearn 'proper' braking!
ABS Pressure Modulator failed (again) - 2005 R1200GS
I discovered a company based in Spain that advertises repair of BMW bike ABS modules, although more expensive than the bypass option it would retain full functionality - https://www.nitomotor.com/en/reparar-modulo-abs-bmw/ - has anyone used them?
Not sure if there is an equivalent in the UK, but so far I've had no success in finding one.
Not sure if there is an equivalent in the UK, but so far I've had no success in finding one.
Ask yourself this question
How many times in my years of ownership did you get into a position that your ABS kicked in ?
How many bikes prior to your GS
A) Had Servo ABS
B) Had the ABS operate
if the answer is zero, then do we need to say more
The early GS didnt have servo brakes - ever thought you may have had one of those
Ask yourself this question
How many times in my years of ownership did you get into a position that your ABS kicked in ?
How many bikes prior to your GS
A) Had Servo ABS
B) Had the ABS operate
if the answer is zero, then do we need to say more
The early GS didnt have servo brakes - ever thought you may have had one of those
I totally get your point:
- none of my previous bikes had Servo ABS - but then again I came off a few times due to heavy handed braking (totally my fault!)
- how many times has the ABS activated? To be honest I'm not sure, but I do like it being available just in case something unexpected happens.
The truth is that I have extended warranty on this bike (and I know that may sound silly to some) so I would prefer that BMW Motorrad Warranty pay to get the bike back to its original configuration if feasible. If that proves impossible I will go down the 'servoectomy' route - I have no problem with that assuming that my insurer doesn't have an issue with the modification - and if they do I will just have to get a quote from a different insurer.
is this fixing ABS2 or the earlier one no one can repair ?
you only need ABS to help fully once for it to be worthwhile
in a BIG moment if you had time to notice if ABS was or wasn't cutting in it was never a moment - its a bit like beeping your horn if you have time to do it - it wasn't even close to ever being an issue worth noticing
you only need ABS to help fully once for it to be worthwhile
in a BIG moment if you had time to notice if ABS was or wasn't cutting in it was never a moment - its a bit like beeping your horn if you have time to do it - it wasn't even close to ever being an issue worth noticing
I have a 2004 1200 that has had the servosectomy and the brakes are amazing and I've never had any worries after making the decision.
I never have to worry about the triangle either, great bikes the early ones .
I never have to worry about the triangle either, great bikes the early ones .
I believe the unit in my 2005 bike is the 2nd generation version (2000 - 2006).
Yours will be the Servo ABS in a 2005, the better non-servo ABS system came later.
FWIW I hated my Servo ABS brakes, they were like an on/off switch with little braking feel and could hammer on quite severely at times. When they failed and left me with only pathetic residual braking it was a genuinely terrifying moment.
My later 2008 bike with the non-servo ABS was in a different league.
I'm slightly dreading when/if the servo brakes go on my 04 model. They're some of the best brakes I've ever experienced. 1 finger braking and the force is unbelievable. I've had much more modern bikes with brakes that aren't even close to them. I keep hearing so many horror stories though!
Check with another dealer, I have had it with obsolete , no longer available BMW motorrad parts that there are still some in the system and they can be ordered BUT they are on a non returnable basis , ie the dealer cannot return them to stock.
I bought a r1150gs ignition switch a few months ago that is listed obsolete, nla by BMW but was available from a motorrad dealer
I'm interesting in how you found the motorrad dealer with the 'obsolete' part - lots of phone calls?
Indeed, you are scavenging parts bins for whats called New old stock
It's luck that you got the part, they are obsolete, and once they leave the central WH thats it
Dealer I use checked and system which stated nla and obsolete but the parts manager said that it does not mean parts are not there , he re -inputted the part number into the system and lo and behold there were a dozen or so in the UK.
It is how Motorworks has so many nla parts
So you think the mothership should keep a production line available, just for you so you have a spares supply when even anything on your 26 year old model that ceased production 20 odd years ago breaks down
no....
two iterations of the ever die fiasco - then late 2006 they got the modern style - the naming conventions used by BM are all muddled
ABS2 is the third iteration and like most cars 2006 to 2012
I've never said that if you read my post.So you think the mothership should keep a production line available, just for you so you have a spares supply when even anything on your 26 year old model that ceased production 20 odd years ago breaks down
BUT I can go to any Suzuki dealership and over 90% of parts for my 1981 ( a 40 odd year old plus bike) Suzuki GSX1100 SZ Katana are still available and Suzuki regularly make up production batches of parts that are requested .
For an ignition switch (electrical part) and a known failure part for an R1150GS to be listed as being obsolete and No Longer Available is a bit ridiculous as the part was used on all of the R850 , r1100 , r1150 ranges plus numerous K series bikes .
So you think the mothership should keep a production line available, just for you so you have a spares supply when even anything on your 26 year old model that ceased production 20 odd years ago breaks down
He hasn’t said that…. Oops, just seen Neil W has replied, in big letters to help you understand
I've just checked with my insurer (Bikesure) about by-passing / removing the ABS and they say they have no problems with doing this, provided the bike is "safe to ride".
SnowMec
Registered user
As legality and insurance issues often come up when discussing the elimination of the ABS system, I have a question. I live in the northern part of Sweden and have been riding motorcycles for almost exactly 40 years (I'm 56). We have an inspection every other year, similar to the MOT test, where the vehicle's roadworthiness is checked. They don't test ABS, which on slightly older motorcycles is extra equipment. Eliminating the ABS system is therefore not a problem where I live. It seems that in other countries it could be a problem, or? On my 2010 R1200GSA I have a button that allows me to turn off my ABS which is necessary when riding in terrain/off road (otherwise no rear brake). Is it legal to use that button in countries where you are not allowed to dismantle the ABS system? What is the difference between switching off via a button or completely removing the system?
do you turn it all off or just the back wheel's ABS ?
if you brake hard the back wheel comes off the ground anyway
