ABS2 Errors

Padowan

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I am having a spot of bother with the ABS2 on my 2000 R850 GS.

I was getting regular errors, particularly in cold weather during the self-check so I recently implemented a fix that many other people have performed that delays the self-check until the engine is running and the alternator is generating. That has worked perfectly and now I never get the alternate flashing error due to low voltage on starting.

This has now highlighted some additional intermittent errors.

When pulling away from start (with correct flashing lights and no errors), I get the ker-chunk of the self-test, but sometimes, not always, this sends the lights in alternate flashing error mode. On analysis, when I put an LED on pin 2 of the diagnostic connecter under the seat, it flashes out error-code 7 which is the ABS-brain/ABS-unit error.

I can use the reset procedure to clear the error and on one occasion after clearing it and managing to pull away with a correct lights-out self-test I went out and tested the ABS by trying to lock up the rear. In stamping on the brake, the ABS made a noise like it was operating but then the lights went into alternate-flash mode and again on analysis it was a code-7.

I had read that sometimes crap in the lines can cause sticky pistons so I bled a bit of fluid (vacuum bleeder) out of the ABS unit from both circuits and it was perfectly clean, no crap or discolouration from what I could see.

As mentioned the error is intermittent, sometimes it's OK, sometimes it's not. I would say that temperature does affect it, if the bike has been running a while or the weather is warm it is less likely to error. Cold starting in cold conditions and I can almost guarantee that it'll go into error, which is a bummer this time of year!

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I could try to try and fully diagnose and fix this? I'm wondering if the pistons are still a bit sticky and am contemplating dismantling and cleaning the bores out, but before I embark on that, I wanted to test the wisdom here.

Thanks for any suggestions.
 
I am having a spot of bother with the ABS2 on my 2000 R850 GS.

I was getting regular errors, particularly in cold weather during the self-check so I recently implemented a fix that many other people have performed that delays the self-check until the engine is running and the alternator is generating. That has worked perfectly and now I never get the alternate flashing error due to low voltage on starting.

This has now highlighted some additional intermittent errors.

When pulling away from start (with correct flashing lights and no errors), I get the ker-chunk of the self-test, but sometimes, not always, this sends the lights in alternate flashing error mode. On analysis, when I put an LED on pin 2 of the diagnostic connecter under the seat, it flashes out error-code 7 which is the ABS-brain/ABS-unit error.

I can use the reset procedure to clear the error and on one occasion after clearing it and managing to pull away with a correct lights-out self-test I went out and tested the ABS by trying to lock up the rear. In stamping on the brake, the ABS made a noise like it was operating but then the lights went into alternate-flash mode and again on analysis it was a code-7.

I had read that sometimes crap in the lines can cause sticky pistons so I bled a bit of fluid (vacuum bleeder) out of the ABS unit from both circuits and it was perfectly clean, no crap or discolouration from what I could see.

As mentioned the error is intermittent, sometimes it's OK, sometimes it's not. I would say that temperature does affect it, if the bike has been running a while or the weather is warm it is less likely to error. Cold starting in cold conditions and I can almost guarantee that it'll go into error, which is a bummer this time of year!

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I could try to try and fully diagnose and fix this? I'm wondering if the pistons are still a bit sticky and am contemplating dismantling and cleaning the bores out, but before I embark on that, I wanted to test the wisdom here.

Thanks for any suggestions.
not a lot of experience with these but it sounds like a sticky piston in the ABS unit. There are 2 pistons in there, one for each circuit and as part of the self test, I believe they are pulled down by a chain via a clutch and electric motor. There is plenty to go wrong and I personally would change the brake fluid for some nice new thin stuff. Its gotta be worth a go and its a cheap fix if it works.
 
Code 7 is. Computer error rather than a unit error I thought?

If so its worth pulling the plug and make sure its corrosion free. Same with all your wheel sensors

My code 7 on my k1100 turned out to be corrosion on the rear sensor plug terminals

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Ok thanks for the suggestion. I'll have a check of the connector, I did unplug the plug and open it up to find the correct wire for the delayed power up test so maybe I didn't seat it back properly.
 
Incidentally any of the abs II units will fit any of the abs II bikes they just need to be re coded by a dealer. If all else fails woollaston Northampton can re code as they did my other k1100 unit after I stripped a thread on the original.
It gives you a much wider scope on ebay. It also means I have a spare unit with good computer and internals if you need.


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Incidentally any of the abs II units will fit any of the abs II bikes they just need to be re coded by a dealer.

They don't all need to be recoded.

Just the very very early units, approx pre 95 needed to be recoded.

And even then not every early unit needs it.
 
Still working on this one.

Have checked and cleaned the connector and all seems ok, but the Code 7 error still persists (intermittently).

Again on an occasion when the unit successfully self-checked on pull away I locked up the rear to test ABS operation and again it made some clunking and went into error again. To me, this means that when the unit is activating something is not quite as it should, I'm still thinking sticky pistons perhaps. Haven't got around yet to completely flushing the systems, but the bleeds I did the other week were very clean so I'm not convinced its crap in the fluid.

Any other thoughts?
 


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