So, going to 'winterise' the bikes, which one???
ACF-50 OR FS-365
- Thread starter The smudger
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Duck oil ! or am I the only one in this parish who use's it.
If you are going to ride them ACF50, if you are going to store them FS365
Interesting point Frank! The little Honda I'll store, the RT I'll possibly store as well, the ADV I'd like to ride, although seeing the gritter trucks makes me shudder......... The GS I'd like to ride, looking like I need to invest in both then?
Only ever used FS365 on mine and ridden in all weathers yet no rust 
Is that the RT mate...
Acf 50 applied with a compressed air spray gun for me.
Spectre
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Always ACF50 for me. 3 winters commuting and no corrosion! Bugger to remove for mot though! Spray it into the lid and apply with a paintbrush...
ghiribizzo
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First winter - used FS365. Rust? Yes - plenty of it I'm afraid on mine. Since then it's been ACF50 and admittedly less winter riding. Plus - ACF50 is kinda purple and smells better! Put the can in water as hot as your hand can stand for 10 minutes and the spray will come out incredibly fine.
i've often wandered the same as the op, most of my mates claim that this or that is best. it ranges from wd40, gt85, acf50, 365, and some stuff made by motorex.
me personally i use acf applied with a small spray gun, even though i dont use my bike through the winter it lives in a damp garage. come march when i wash it off,
it takes three or four tfr soakings to get it all off............so it must be good at protecting it!!!!!!
me personally i use acf applied with a small spray gun, even though i dont use my bike through the winter it lives in a damp garage. come march when i wash it off,
it takes three or four tfr soakings to get it all off............so it must be good at protecting it!!!!!!
Just to confuse things. I ACF and corrosion block at the start of the winter season. Then its frequent washing followed by applications of FS365. First year for me with a new bike so I will find out next spring if my way is working. Previous older bikes have kept there status quo with regards its state of aging. And I have changed as many fasteners as possible for SS where suitable.
Its a personal thing but I can't get my head around applying ACF50 and then leaving it dirty for the whole winter. Makes me shudder to think of the Panzer II being dirty and coated in salt for so long. Seems to work for some though.
Its a personal thing but I can't get my head around applying ACF50 and then leaving it dirty for the whole winter. Makes me shudder to think of the Panzer II being dirty and coated in salt for so long. Seems to work for some though.
Farmer Palmer
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Used to use FS365 but I was never done mopping up puddles of the stuff under the bike everytime I sprayed it..............! Bike was shinier than a new pin though!
Now I use ACF50 on everything and it sticks like sh*t to a blanket...........Bike now looks oily and damp with the stuff which is comforting and when I wash the road crud off there's an oil slick that would shame the Exxon Valdez...........!
Now I use ACF50 on everything and it sticks like sh*t to a blanket...........Bike now looks oily and damp with the stuff which is comforting and when I wash the road crud off there's an oil slick that would shame the Exxon Valdez...........!
ACF50.....I'm seriously old, I have tried most stuff, I've ridden through many winters, my bikes are corrosion free and I don't impress easily....
Bendy toy
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F365 was nothing special on my Yamaha. It rusted almost as fast as WD40. ACF-50 has been much longer lasting. I bought the bottle rather than the aerosol.
Ive had success with surface treatments intended for long term storage of metal parts. But they are really messy and the bike looks a shed all winter. Also surprisingly hard to find. ACF-50 does the same job without (so much of) the mess. F365 on the other hand just seems to be a water soluble oil. My Yamaha rusted no less with F365 than with WD-40. TBH it just seemed to run off to the floor and the remainder washed off in heavy rain.
Ive had success with surface treatments intended for long term storage of metal parts. But they are really messy and the bike looks a shed all winter. Also surprisingly hard to find. ACF-50 does the same job without (so much of) the mess. F365 on the other hand just seems to be a water soluble oil. My Yamaha rusted no less with F365 than with WD-40. TBH it just seemed to run off to the floor and the remainder washed off in heavy rain.
ghiribizzo
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+1 Have to agree with Bendy Toy.
At the end of the day. Cleaning regularly must be the only option. The application of oils helps but surely can't be seen as a cop out for regular maintenance of your bike.
And there isn't any proof in what you do until several years down the line you have to remove some random bolt that is seized solid. Then you know if your cleaning regime has worked.
Ideally a rinse down with clean water after every ride during the winter is the best option. If your bike is a garage queen and doesn't get used during the winter ACf/FS it and forget until next year. Although from experience you could even not bother with ACf if its stored in a garage and not going out until the spring rain has washed away the winter salt.
If garaging it an oil change might be more beneficial. Its along time to be off the bike though.
And there isn't any proof in what you do until several years down the line you have to remove some random bolt that is seized solid. Then you know if your cleaning regime has worked.
Ideally a rinse down with clean water after every ride during the winter is the best option. If your bike is a garage queen and doesn't get used during the winter ACf/FS it and forget until next year. Although from experience you could even not bother with ACf if its stored in a garage and not going out until the spring rain has washed away the winter salt.
If garaging it an oil change might be more beneficial. Its along time to be off the bike though.
ACF 50
Several posters have mentioned WD40 as a rust stopper. Lets be very clear about this, WD40 is not a corrosion inhibiter, it is a water dispersant, hence WD. Years ago it used to be called Rocket WD40. This was because the then US space people wanted water dispersant to use on their space vehicles. Lots of different formulas where tried and the fortieth work well. So the stuff was unimaginatively called Rocket WD40.
Great for spraying on water to disperse it, especially electrics, but not a corrosion inhibitor, in fact it can lock corrosion in.
To get back on to the topic, I use ACF 50 because it works on the aircraft that I maintain. Military use PX28 if you can get it it's fantastic.
Rich
Great for spraying on water to disperse it, especially electrics, but not a corrosion inhibitor, in fact it can lock corrosion in.
To get back on to the topic, I use ACF 50 because it works on the aircraft that I maintain. Military use PX28 if you can get it it's fantastic.
Rich
Sounds suitably 'tactical' (meeting requirements of DEF STAN 80-143/1)
but I see it comes in a bright red container. Do they do some unbadged, in cammo?
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