AF-XIED for 1150gs fitted and first tests.

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The much discussed AF-XIED arrived today :) My bike is running with a y-piece and Remus Revolution can with the baffle removed. Air filter is stock. I had a Booster Plug fitted, which I have disconnected in total. Before I did anything I also reset the motronic. Fuse 5 out for the 15 mins it takes to fit the AF-XIED. The fuse was popped back in at the end, ignition on and open/close the throttle a few times.



Fitting was very straightforward, remove the tank and locate the lambda connector by the right headstock.
Here it is:



Cut the zip ties and connect inline the AF-XIED. Re-secure them back to the frame.


There is plenty of length to run the unit so that it sits on the airbox. You can also buy extender cables if you want to site it elsewhere. There is one earth lead on the AF-XIED to connect to the battery negative or any good chassis earth.



Mine came set to '6 flashes', but on Rogers advice I set it to 8 flashes of the LED. You just turn the little control pot with a jewelers screwdriver. When you start the engine the yellow LED on the unit will flash, just count how many. If you make an adjustment you need to switch off and restart the engine in order that you can see the 'flash count'. The red LED is just 'power on'. Once the flash sequence is over, the yellow and green LED's come into play to give you a rough guide as to how rich or weak you mixture is. Green on its own indicates a good AFR.

The road test showed the bike to fuel well. Strangely the exhaust note has slightly changed as well? It didn't seem to be a massive improvement on how the bike was running pre-AF-IED though :confused:
I then set the unit to ' 7 flashes'. Again fuelling seemed good, but I was initially not overwhelmed by the perceived slight improvement.

However, half way through this ride I realized I was now going round town at 25-30 mph in 4th gear with instant drive available. What I had missed was the fact that the engine is much more responsive and as a result I was always in the next gear up, so to speak. By consciously using each gear through the rev range it is clear that the bike accelerates quicker, with strong acceleration way past the normal speed limits :) .

The 1150 is not that short of torque, but with the AF-XIED fitted it appears to be stronger over the entire rev range. My bike never really suffered much surging, but what little there was has gone. The exhaust has lost the backfire/burble on the overrun almost completely. So yes, it really does work.:thumb2

Now, over the next few tanks of fuel It should improve even more, which will be nice, as everything 'adapts' so to speak (according to Roger).

Im not saying that chipping the motronic is not an alternative because I have never fitted one, Ill leave that to Roger and John to sort out ;) .
For me the advange is I can change exhausts, filter etc and adjust the AFR to suit without any worries over whether the chip (or remapping) will no longer be suitable for my setup.
 
I like the simplicity of this external fit, and the fact you can adjust it. Also no requirement to replace the lambda probe as with the Power commander.

I too shall be watching your testing with great interest.

Good job

:thumb2
 
Yeah, liking this idea more than some of the others available. Keep us informed and good on you for taking a gamble...:thumb2
 
It's good, in that you don't need dyno time to set it up. However, it sounds like it's overfuelling throughout the operating range of the engine (am I wrong?) and that's what is giving the extra oomph in the midrange. How does this translate in the bottom and top ends? It sounds a bit like leaving the choke on in and old car (remember those days...?). I'm just concerned that it's a bit of a 'broad brush' solution.
 
Good report. The exhaust note change was something I noticed. At first I thought I was imagining it but it turns out to be real. It's a lower, throatier sound. You should also notice that hot idle is 75-150 RPM higher. I shifted from 6% more fuel to 12% more fuel on my LC-1 this weekend for yuks and found the idle jumped a further 100 RPM.

Good riding, keep us informed.
RB
 
It's good, in that you don't need dyno time to set it up. However, it sounds like it's overfuelling throughout the operating range of the engine (am I wrong?) and that's what is giving the extra oomph in the midrange. How does this translate in the bottom and top ends? It sounds a bit like leaving the choke on in and old car (remember those days...?). I'm just concerned that it's a bit of a 'broad brush' solution.

Ha Ha, I do remember the choke in the old days :) .
The 1150 runs a little lean pretty much everywhere in standard trim, which may worsen with the use of a more fruity pipe and less restrictive air filter.
I think of the AF-XIED as the equivalent of fitting a Dyno-Jet kit to a carb'ed bike. It will give a controlled amount of extra fuel just like using larger jets in a carb, thus eliminating the lean running and therefore giving improved throttle responce.

This seems to stand up in my findings so far.

Roger - yes, a very slight increase in idle was noted.

Hopefully I will get some more miles in over the weekend.
 
It's good, in that you don't need dyno time to set it up. However, it sounds like it's overfuelling throughout the operating range of the engine (am I wrong?) and that's what is giving the extra oomph in the midrange. How does this translate in the bottom and top ends? It sounds a bit like leaving the choke on in and old car (remember those days...?). I'm just concerned that it's a bit of a 'broad brush' solution.

Paul, In a sense it is a broad brush. It adds a small, controlled amount of fuel, bringing the AFR overall to roughly what an R1100GS would exhibits running no cat, no lambda on non-ethanol fuel. About what BMW designed the early boxer engine to fuel to.

Just a small tweak up on the fuel delivers a better running boxer.
 
I have had one of these units fitted for over 5000 miles and can say there is a definate improvement. Fuel mileage is much the same as without the unit, but there id definately more power to be had everywhere. My current set up is decat, stock can and air filter and the unit set to 8 flashes as i found 7 lost the initial gains after a few hundred miles.......................i recently re-fitted the yellow cat code plug which has helped smooth things out further. (Thanks for the advise you gave me in PM Roger and sorry for not getting back to you).
 
Feck £253 for a pair for the 1200's

I wondered if it would save me a trip to Hilltop for my "inherited" Gertie GS as fueling is so schite on the early ones


Maybe I'll just dump the FI fit a set of carbs and points n plugs :aidan
 
I have had one of these units fitted for over 5000 miles and can say there is a definate improvement. Fuel mileage is much the same as without the unit, but there id definately more power to be had everywhere. My current set up is decat, stock can and air filter and the unit set to 8 flashes as i found 7 lost the initial gains after a few hundred miles.......................i recently re-fitted the yellow cat code plug which has helped smooth things out further. (Thanks for the advise you gave me in PM Roger and sorry for not getting back to you).

Really glad it's working out for you. The initial gains of setting 7 don't go away due to Mixture Adaptation but the improvement between settings 7 and 8 can be quite significant. The reason is the richer you run the engine, the less sensitive it is to injector fuel imbalance. The idea is, once you add enough fuel to consume all the oxygen in the cylinder you have equalized the power between the left and right side. So as you found, setting 8 can be quite good.
 
Feck £253 for a pair for the 1200's

I wondered if it would save me a trip to Hilltop for my "inherited" Gertie GS as fueling is so schite on the early ones


Maybe I'll just dump the FI fit a set of carbs and points n plugs :aidan

Since the R1200GS/RT models have two lambda sensors, it takes two full AF-XIEDs to shift lambda on the Hexhead/Camhead/Wethead. Steve at Nightrider discounts a pair of devices for the R1200s to make it less costly for that application.
 
Managed around 100 miles today. Briefly tried '8 flashes' again, but didnt feel as good as '7'. I then dropped it to '6 flashes'. Much crisper, espcially lower down. Now that seems to go against what the AF-XIED is supposed to do as I am leaning off rather then richening? Although the LED's are only a guide, they are now mostly both out or just the green LED is lit, observed when the bike is fully warmed up. This appears to represent a good mixture.

The idle appeared to increase a little bit more on the 6 flash setting as well. Hmmmm.

The LED guide is:

Yellow - leaner than 14.8:1
No Lights - 14.7:1 to 14.2:1
Green - 14.2:1 to 13.8:1
Yellow and Green - Richer than 13.2:1

I can only guess that the y-piece and straight through pipe are allowing a little 'air reversion' which would require a leaner mixture setting on the AF-XIED than what you would think. Maybe thats why BMW have allowed the Remus y-piece and can to be fitted without any fuelling mods (I had the pipe and y-piece fitted when new and was told its fine and will not affect the warrenty). If this is the case I would imagine the AF-XIED would give more noticable gains to bikes fitted with a stock exhaust or stock end can and y-piece.

Fuel consumption does not appear to be altered excessively, but I have not done enough miles to confirm this yet.
 
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Is this xified what's it (no Idea what that means) better than johns chip?

What's different? Other than the hefty price tag?

Sounds like it's just burning more fuel from the reports so far and a Bike deciding to idle 100rpm higher than normal does not seem right to me....
 
Its adjustable, it has been proven to do what its supposed to do, its easy to fit and remove, Ive not noticed a major change infuel consumption, blah, blah, blah :rolleyes:

Im just trying to give an honest opinion to help others, sorry if that offends you.

I take it you have one of Johns chips then? They are getting good reports as well :)
 
I'm NOT offended at all.

I have one of johns chips in a bike and it is good. I sort of understood what it did until roger started talking a different type of chip/what sit and then there were closed loops, open loops, loop de loops and more what's its.


I think I'd like to improve my 1150 single sparks performance a bit. My other one is an 850I just want to know what I'm buying is worth it.

Roger and John. Between you, I am certain there is a perfect solution.

As it stands I'm wondering what would happen if I put an a ivied thingie on s johngs chip? Explosion?

A lot gets lost in translation john. You NEED a pro if reader...
Fat fat I'm interested in what's best for my bike and um in the market for a chip what's it
 


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