I think your right.Maybe if manufacturers cut back on the wizardry and concentrated on turning products out with some integrity that might be better.
Most modern bikes seem to be very expensive cheap shit from what I can see.
Is it that they're made from yesterday's old washing machines or what ?
I know in the car world older stuff is miles better than new stuff

I think your right.
I know in the car world older stuff is miles better than new stuff
really? old stuff better than new? I still remember when we expected every car in the fleet to need a gearbox every year and weren't surprised to change a couple of engines in the 2nd year! let alone the rot in the bodywork!Been in the car game for years.
Some change from then to now.
Stuff isn't made too last.
Cheap recycled tin etc
Newer u would think would be progress but in plenty situations it's going backwards
But everything is just built down to a price.
Which is what people want
really? old stuff better than new? I still remember when we expected every car in the fleet to need a gearbox every year and weren't surprised to change a couple of engines in the 2nd year! let alone the rot in the bodywork!
Wish I kept my W123 1983 model, music teacher I sold on still runs it...![]()