airhead history could be for sale

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sometimes he's a bit quick off the mark..
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Camille is my fave BEEMER of all time and I'd give both my nuts to be able to ride her.. 29 inch inside leg against 37 inch seat height is no contest...

Regardless of Tuned, you sir have a good taste in bikes :thumb2
So hang around, you might enjoy it :)
 
thanks

having read all the feedback i think i'll find another way to hang on to her. yes there are bits that arn't right but under the cosmetics she's bang on. 25 years have passed since she did her thing and the last owner for what ever reason did what he did but it wouldn't be a big job to put right although some stuff is so well done it doesn't feel right to change it.
we've a car at work which went through a multi million law suit because someone disagreed with the authenticity of it, turned out only 10% was the original car the other 90 being rebuilt but it still won and is now classed as one of the most valuable Bentleys on the planet.
thanks again, looks like Rossi will inherit her some day:thumb2
 
Interesting thread.

Firstly, I genuinely hope that Simon doesn't have to sell this bike as I know it would hurt.:(

I remember when it was for sale on ebay and I was interested but surprised it was being sold so cheap IF it was genuine. I know Simon got a bargain which ever way you looked at it so good luck to him, thats the way ebay works, he bid he won, well done.

Having seen this bike close up in my workshop it is a lovely old bike and rightly won "Best bike" at Wee-kend.

I would love to have it in my collection as I would love to ride it (and pose on it:D).

If Simon has to sell it, I would be happy to do a "Proff offer" of offering a fair price with the deal for the owner to buy it back when his finances improve. Could offer a R100PD Classic + cash or even an Endurance spec R1 as part even or even straight cash. Genuine offer so yes, I am prepared to "put my money where my mouth is".

Sid

PS I hope these current probs doesn't stop you painting up SWMBO's bike in pornstar pink?
 
At the risk of upsetting Simon, I have to agree with Trippy and put the value at £6,000.

Proff's figure of "agreed insurance value of £20,000" is absolute nonsense. Ebay is a great leveller of values. I know what it sold for last time on ebay and that was reduced slightly by Proff telling others not to bid.

I might be wrong, but I would need to see some real prove of genuine provenance to change my opinion.

My Phase One Endurance R1 "could" be worth £10k to the right (read dillusional) buyer as it has the "provenance" of a James Haydon race fairing and a Steve Plater - TT Senior winner fairing. In reality, if I put it on Ebay I would expect to return £6k (even though it cost me far more than that).

The easy answer is for Simon to put it on ebay with a very high reserve and see what bids it attracts. That way, serious buyers with real money can give a real opinion.
 
I might be wrong, but I would need to see some real prove of genuine provenance to change my opinion.

My Phase One Endurance R1 "could" be worth £10k to the right (read dillusional) buyer as it has the "provenance" of a James Haydon race fairing and a Steve Plater - TT Senior winner fairing.

I would have thought it was all in the frame/chassis number. That's the ONLY thing that counts... surely:nenau and is what makes it what it is, unique.

Without that, its just a bike in tarts clothing.

John
 
Proff's figure of "agreed insurance value of £20,000" is absolute nonsense. Ebay is a great leveller of values. I know what it sold for last time on ebay and that was reduced slightly by Proff telling others not to bid.

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One things for sure, it will NEVER lose value .......................
 
There you go ... two days of talking and a genuine offer from a buyer :thumb2
What value do you put on it Sid?


Two genuine offers Sir.

I would have thought it was all in the frame/chassis number. That's the ONLY thing that counts... surely and is what makes it what it is, unique.

Without that, its just a bike in tarts clothing.
I must agree and disagree, the value of this bike is in it's pedigree, it is what it was, it is a piece of history and member of racing royalty any way you cut it. Any nob can build a replica, I am a nob and I am building a matched set of early PD's with PD tanks painted like the Marlboro bikes. I watched the races as a kid and pieced the bikes together over years as a labor of love and when they are done I will put them on a trailer and take them to San Diego and disappear into the Baja for a month.

This bike however is different, just as a climber who has done Everest is different than some anorak with a new pair of plastic boots and a weekend hiking the Gouter on Mont Blanc. It does not matter if all that is left is the frame and engine and as nice as it would be to have the original bodywork, in racing, machines are repainted and have the plastics changed many times in a career, frankly it is a shock that this beauty still has the original block. No, it has not been kept in a time capsule with Gaston Rahier’s sweat still moistening the seat, rolling on flattened tyres checked by the Senegalese sun and covered in dust, but as far as I am concerned that makes it even more interesting and valuable.

As for being a bike in tarts clothing, even a stock R80GS with a high capacity tank painted zebra stripe is more than a bike, it is, in the opinion of many, the finest touring bike ever built and if we will remember this is the very reason that it was chosen and so successful in the PD races. The fact that it has a large capacity tank, small fairing and hand guards hardly detracts from the bike, it is dressed as it should be!

I have been a tech on German cars for 30 years and had bikes for 15 of those years, I lived on the Baja for 8 years where I had an adventure travel company and have driven every inch of it on two and four wheels. I was based in London for 6 years and did documentary and film work all over Africa and Asia and the Arctic.

Through all that I learned what works and what does not and the R80GS works, it can be rebuilt in a 2m x 2m mud hut in Mozambique with a few more tools than fit under the seat, it can be welded, tweaked and repaired with the most basic tools found in any moderate village and it shares parts with enough other bikes built over a long enough period of time that you will never find yourself waiting for parts from Austria. You have no limited service life paralever so you don’t need to strap that spare to your back, it can go down in the rocks without cracking the trans in half and if it does go down, and it will, you pull the bars straight-ish and climb back on rather than wondering where you can find an obscure magnesium casting to hold the throttle on the bike in Angkor, Cambodia. If anyone can show me a more reliable, tougher, easier to maintain and repair motorcycle with production numbers as high (considering the interchangeability of BMW parts), then I will buy it!

I envy you Sir, good luck, and sell your moms dentures before you part with that bike. If a man has his health, a box of tools, that bike and a Motorsailer there is nowhere on earth he could not get to or go.
 
Don't sell it (unless it's to me)

You have a wonderful, special bike there. You are also very lucky to be its caretaker. As for value, it's whatever someone is willing to pay which considering it's history could be susbstantial. I would love to own it, so much so that I built this...
http://munsty.smugmug.com/gallery/1229546_UnMmi#57592743_nSavC
So I could get the feeling that I did.
I may be interested in buying it if you are still willing to sell it.
 
You have a wonderful, special bike there. You are also very lucky to be its caretaker. As for value, it's whatever someone is willing to pay which considering it's history could be susbstantial. I would love to own it, so much so that I built this...
http://munsty.smugmug.com/gallery/1229546_UnMmi#57592743_nSavC
So I could get the feeling that I did.
I may be interested in buying it if you are still willing to sell it.

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feck me Munsty, that BEAUTIFUL !!!!!!!



Now see what you bastids have started:blast !! looks like the Yanks want Camille..:blast

Syco, it must be the last bike in your shed to go if the shit hits the fan jobwise :rob
 
Thank You Prof,
It's always nice when someone appreciates what you've done. Not that many Rally bike fans here in America.
 
As for value, it's whatever someone is willing to pay

And despite lots of "ooh thats lovely" and "I would buy it if I could" from both sides of the water there is only one person who has £6000 on the table if Syco wants to sell.
 
You have a wonderful, special bike there. You are also very lucky to be its caretaker. As for value, it's whatever someone is willing to pay which considering it's history could be susbstantial. I would love to own it, so much so that I built this...
http://munsty.smugmug.com/gallery/1229546_UnMmi#57592743_nSavC
So I could get the feeling that I did.
I may be interested in buying it if you are still willing to sell it.


thats an interesting smugmug you've got there - care to elaborate on the rest of the vehicles ?
surely they aren't all yours ?
 
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