all things being equal......

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personal preferance,go for either, wich ever u like or can afford,jus get one an use it
 
all things being equal...... the 1200GS (without ABS) is the better bike.
 
1200 is a better bike without question and of course you only hear about the problems. The other 99.9% of 1200`s are perfectly reliable for everyday use and as good as, if not better than, the competition. We all witter on about the issues on LWD etc and worry whether the same will happen to our steads but in reality, how many of the good folk on this site actually use their bike to it`s potential? A little bit of greenlaning and gentle fire tracks is the norm and the 12 eats it and loves getting down and dirty:thumb.

Unless you are going trans africa/america/asia where the 1100/1150 are definately more suited, go for the fantastic 1200
 
Novice said:
1200 is much better.

New technology, lighter, more fuel efficient, more intelligent, more reliable.

Just look at the difference between LWR and LWD. They were frightened of showing the faults they encountered in LWR with the 1150. In LWD you saw what went wrong and they showed you how they fixed it. What other proof do you need. QED.
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yea back to your ducati:ymca:D:D
 
It is progressive development............things change - just get used to it!

I bought my first new GS, an 800 in 1990, then a 100GSPD, then an 1100, then another 1100, then an 1150 and now a 1200.

I have ridden them in many parts of the World and without doubt have enjoyed all of them. Of course with each new 'development' comes new ideas and experiences.

My 800 was fantastic, did everything I hoped it would - my 100PD had the grunt I used to dream of, then the 1100s..........wow - I thought the old 2 valvers could boogie. The 1100s were amazing (I bought one from the first batch into the UK early '94), the grunt and chuckability. The 1150 was just really an updated, tweaked 1100. The current 1200s are the next step on.......though I do not approve of these ever higher quoted power outputs - it is definately at the expense of some flexibility. Oh, and I prefered to only have five gears. Also, anyone know where I can get a 32" black & white TV?

Over the years folk were always banging on that BMWs are not what they used to be - they no longer have the quality etc............I say that of course they are different........BMW have never made the number of bikes that they make today. Things are just different - of course we hear more about troubles these days due to these dam forums and of course there are so many more bikes out there being ridden even harder (?) than ever before.

As for frames breaking - old news......the early 1100s were famous for that trick.

As for my troubles........I had a new gear box in the 800 and the 100PD (and my R100R!). The 1100s were no trouble (did about 60,000 between them), the 1150 was great (hated electric brakes) and the 1200 has been as good as gold (Mar 07 10,000 miles - at least 2,000 of which have been off road).

Buy the best bike you can find / afford and enjoy:thumb
 
Having not owned an 1150 I've watched this thread with interest.

Having owned TWO BMW 1200GS bikes however, I will never have another one and will never have another BMW.

Don''t get me wrong - the 1200GS is a fantastic bike. It does everything I want extremely well - with one exception.

Reliability.
I don't subscribe to the 99.9% are good theory. I've owned two and they've both been very unreliable. Anecdotal evidence from my frequent "meetings" with BMW assist and the AA suggest to me that the bike is rife with systemic faults

For me, the bike is the primary mode of transport.
This means it has to start in the cold.
BMW assist one December morning - "this is the fifth one of these I've been out to this morning

This means that the fuel pump relay should not konk out if parked in the rain.
BMW assist man - Please do me a favour and write to BMW about this. I get about 10 of these a month (carry lots of spares in the boot of the 5 series)

This means that clutches and gearboxes should not have to be replaced under warranty - they should last


I will miss my 1200GS as I don't think it's replacement will be anywhere near as much fun but the idea of owning an out of warranty 1200GS fills me with dread.

However I suspect that I will be back in the Honda dealership for repairs under warranty with considerably less frequency than my last four years of 1200GS ownership.
That's the deciding factor for me....
 
marcus said:
Having not owned an 1150 I've watched this thread with interest.

Having owned TWO BMW 1200GS bikes however, I will never have another one and will never have another BMW.

Don''t get me wrong - the 1200GS is a fantastic bike. It does everything I want extremely well - with one exception.

Reliability.
I don't subscribe to the 99.9% are good theory. I've owned two and they've both been very unreliable. Anecdotal evidence from my frequent "meetings" with BMW assist and the AA suggest to me that the bike is rife with systemic faults

For me, the bike is the primary mode of transport.
This means it has to start in the cold.
BMW assist one December morning - "this is the fifth one of these I've been out to this morning

This means that the fuel pump relay should not konk out if parked in the rain.
BMW assist man - Please do me a favour and write to BMW about this. I get about 10 of these a month (carry lots of spares in the boot of the 5 series)

This means that clutches and gearboxes should not have to be replaced under warranty - they should last


I will miss my 1200GS as I don't think it's replacement will be anywhere near as much fun but the idea of owning an out of warranty 1200GS fills me with dread.

However I suspect that I will be back in the Honda dealership for repairs under warranty with considerably less frequency than my last four years of 1200GS ownership.
That's the deciding factor for me....
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And that would decide it for me also:(

BUT Eight years of 1150 ownership and NO breakdowns is also a decider:thumb2
 
Jon P said:
It is progressive development............things change - just get used to it!

I bought my first new GS, an 800 in 1990, then a 100GSPD, then an 1100, then another 1100, then an 1150 and now a 1200.
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As for my troubles........I had a new gear box in the 800 and the 100PD (and my R100R!). The 1100s were no trouble (did about 60,000 between them), the 1150 was great (hated electric brakes) and the 1200 has been as good as gold (Mar 07 10,000 miles - at least 2,000 of which have been off road).

Buy the best bike you can find / afford and enjoy:thumb
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Quite :thumb2

I wonder when people who buy any machine (designed and largely built by humans lets not forget) will accept that they sometimes dont work properly. Not necessarily because of any inherent design fault (although that does happen - ask the owner of any new model bike when they are first produced) but because they are machines

Like a previous poster I have not owned 115*'s largely because I am such a shortarse and I want to go off road on the bike, but I have no complaints at all with my 1200 and I know there have been just as many initial development problems with all GS's over the years. You only have to read back a few years on here to see that's the case.

Buy it - ride it - enjoy it ffs :clap
 
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