So why not let those who have passed a higher standard, to go a little faster
sounds fair to me
What a crock of shite.
Allow Advanced drivers to go faster ?
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What a crock of shite.
AdamA has hit the nail on the head here.
If your level of skill, observation, roadcraft and knowledge of the highway code is of a high standard you probably are making progress safely beyond some posted speed limits already. Problem is of course some think they have those skills with no substance to back it up!!
If your level of skill, observation, roadcraft and knowledge of the highway code is of a high standard you probably are making progress safely beyond some posted speed limits already. Problem is of course some think they have those skills with no substance to back it up!!
Most people think their skill level is a bit below Rossis and they need about 30 minutes to brush up + a m1 race bike
J-R
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Mr K
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Advance drivers of riders displaying large badges or police imitating clothing should be made to travel at half the speed limit.
Because I say so.
Because I say so.
The problem with making progress, whether you're big, loud, & shiney or not is other road users.
The publics poor standard of response to fire engines, police cars and ambulances isn't something you want to experience on an unmarked speeding motorcycle. (Or maybe it is lol)
The majority of progress that an emergency vehicle makes over an above the public is at junctions, roundabouts and queuing traffic, Unless you're a motorway cop doing +100 up an down the m6 all day.
So I suppose if u wanna shoot up and down Motorways all day above the speed limit good luck.
Personally the idea doesn't float my boat. But then again I get my fix every day in work (and stressful it is somedays too)
I enjoy riding my bike home safely at the end of my shift at or below the national speed limit. It is possible to make satisfactory progress with increased skill, observation and positioning without the need for speed.
The publics poor standard of response to fire engines, police cars and ambulances isn't something you want to experience on an unmarked speeding motorcycle. (Or maybe it is lol)
The majority of progress that an emergency vehicle makes over an above the public is at junctions, roundabouts and queuing traffic, Unless you're a motorway cop doing +100 up an down the m6 all day.
So I suppose if u wanna shoot up and down Motorways all day above the speed limit good luck.
Personally the idea doesn't float my boat. But then again I get my fix every day in work (and stressful it is somedays too)
I enjoy riding my bike home safely at the end of my shift at or below the national speed limit. It is possible to make satisfactory progress with increased skill, observation and positioning without the need for speed.
Yes but you appear to have one of those wheezy old 1150 things. Trust me, the world's a better place at 90 mph + on a 1200......
degsey
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oh yes they do
Touche Schtum. 
The one thing I've learnt over the last twenty years is that the faster you go, the less you appreciate.
I've traded my beloved Superbike for a wheezy 1150gsa in an attempt to enjoy the journey as much as the destination.
Wanna go fast? Book a track day, the roads will never seem the same again.
The one thing I've learnt over the last twenty years is that the faster you go, the less you appreciate.
I've traded my beloved Superbike for a wheezy 1150gsa in an attempt to enjoy the journey as much as the destination.
Wanna go fast? Book a track day, the roads will never seem the same again.
I get bored going round in circles. A twisty, bumpy B road is more fun at 80 or 90 than a track is at 120.
Suppose it depends upon the track. I hear the Nurburgring takes a bit of concentration.
I do understand the draw of the fast flowing B road, especially living in this part of our lovely country.
I've just seen too many riders succumb to a sudden & unexpected stop on such roads. Which isn't always their fault.
I do understand the draw of the fast flowing B road, especially living in this part of our lovely country.
I've just seen too many riders succumb to a sudden & unexpected stop on such roads. Which isn't always their fault.
Time Traveller
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Plenty of "Advanced" riders are crap...they have a piece of paper to say they did alright on the day of the test...that's all. In fact the arrogance of some beggars belief.
Of course, there are those that do it properly, but no one is infallible. I certainly would positively encourage all to do advanced rider courses - but don't come away thinking your a "special case".
I agree with S660Z about most progress being made at junctions, queuing traffic etc. Not top speed. (Long motorway runs accepted.)
if you're doing it right, you can leave most things behind without resorting to speeding It's a high average that counts IMHO, anticipating the junctions and traffic so you don't have to stop at all, being in the right place for the overtake as soon as the opportunity appears, filtering, etc etc
Of course, there are those that do it properly, but no one is infallible. I certainly would positively encourage all to do advanced rider courses - but don't come away thinking your a "special case".
I agree with S660Z about most progress being made at junctions, queuing traffic etc. Not top speed. (Long motorway runs accepted.)
if you're doing it right, you can leave most things behind without resorting to speeding It's a high average that counts IMHO, anticipating the junctions and traffic so you don't have to stop at all, being in the right place for the overtake as soon as the opportunity appears, filtering, etc etc
Your knowledge of the highway code can't be so good...your advocating breaking the rules laid down in it
Your knowledge of the highway code can't be so good...your [sic] advocating breaking the rules laid down in it
Know the rules so that you can make an informed choice to break them....
Just like you did there.....
Most (if not all) police courses are run in unmarked cars / bikes and do very little blue light stuff.
There is some blue light training of course, (and of course all the T-pac training which will be marked) but the vast majority of it in under the radar.
The original post ???
Bloody stupid Idea!
Your knowledge of the highway code can't be so good...your advocating breaking the rules laid down in it
My knowledge of the Highway Code is probably better than most as I'm tested on it every year.
As Schtum says you make an informed choice to break rules based on a myriad of other data that your brain is processing. Get it wrong and it's you that should accept the consequences. For the record I rarely exceed the speed limits by more than a few mph and in the nationals whilst there might be places you can get a move on they are normally brief as other more important rules like 'traveling no faster than you can see to stop safely' tend to limit your speed.
So really none of us need anything bigger than a 125cc if we don't exceed the speed limits, although some fat bast**ds obviously need something with a bit more uummph just to get up the hills (me included )
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And by Christ it's bloody terrifying at 45 on a 1937 rigid, sidevalve 500 Norton with girder forks
Its the badgers that scare me.
after tea time in mid wales you have an isle of man style race track to play with.
No cars or Police, beautiful EEC funded tarmac, not seen many deer either.
but jeez those badgers are scary, all over the road, gallavanting around and too big to hit safely
they ought to cull them
after tea time in mid wales you have an isle of man style race track to play with.
No cars or Police, beautiful EEC funded tarmac, not seen many deer either.
but jeez those badgers are scary, all over the road, gallavanting around and too big to hit safely
they ought to cull them
