Anakee Mis-Adventure?

[Deleted account 191119001]

Maybe it's because the AA is an 80/20 tyre and doesn't displace water as well as a more road orientated tyre

Exactly my thoughts Sven, a pure road tyre will always be better on the road, and in all honesty, I think the 80/20 is a marketing hype, as I would not even go near offroad with them tyres, maybe a bit of gravel, but I can handle gravel with a simple road tyre, so either knobblies if you offroad, or full road tyres if you do not offroad, just my opinion.

 

[Geekay]

Here is the camels breath.
Why would a Tracer help you be better in the corners, it is the tyres gripping the road, stick rubbish tyres on it and it will be no better than any other bike. I have not tried a Tracer but I would expect the GS to have better quality suspension.

IMO, free from any "off-road" aspirations, the tracer is a much better handling bike on-road than the GS / GSA, so I can see where he's coming from.

 

[Deleted account 191119001]

IMO, free from any "off-road" aspirations, the tracer is a much better handling bike on-road than the GS / GSA, so I can see where he's coming from.

Exactly that, hoping CPJS tries a tracer one day to understand, might get another later, when wife has had enough of being 2 up, great fun bike, or maybe that KTM 790

 

[jags]

Here is the camels breath.
Why would a Tracer help you be better in the corners, it is the tyres gripping the road, stick rubbish tyres on it and it will be no better than any other bike. I have not tried a Tracer but I would expect the GS to have better quality suspension.
The GS has been endowed with a very stable and fine handling chassis and suspension that for the most part works well. It is a shame to have the weak link being the tyres.
Having a good chassis encourages one to use it and for that to happen you need a decent tyre, it is safer to be over tyred than under.
It is not the skilled riders that have a problem, apart from frustration, with a lesser tyre it is the less skilled that are more likely to make poor judgements and panic, that is when you want the tyre to save your sorry arse. Your lean angle ABS will only work to pull up safely as well as your tyre's grip will allow, remember that as your ABS keeps letting the brakes off as you approach that hedge on the out side of the bend wishing that if only you had that more sticky tyre..........

excellent post.

 

[Delboy777]

Road tec 01's it is then. £243 delivered !

 

[chris moore]

I'm obviously not a riding god like you, despite riding bikes since the mid 80's, but I can tell the difference in grip and handling between different tyre models. When a tyre lets go in an unpredictable manner an inexperienced rider is quite likely to land on their backside. A more experienced rider is more likely to save it.

There have been two modern tyres in the past 10 years which I've found to offer very poor grip in the wet to the point of being dangerous (and I do ride fast enough to warm them up properly). One being the Bridgestone BT-021 on my R1200RT (BT-023's transformed the grip and handling) and the other the Anakee Adventures on my 1250. Maybe it's because the AA is an 80/20 tyre and doesn't displace water as well as a more road orientated tyre, but the large block pattern also reduces grip and feedback on dry asphalt in my opinion. It's a terrible tyre.

There is nowhere in my comment that I proclaimed myself a riding god just my opinion as I did have the original tourance 80/20 tyres on my first gs in 2010 and I gave them a lot of grief in all weathers and they never let go either as I did say in my original comment it is more likely something on the road why they have let go

 

[Weird Bob]

There is nowhere in my comment that I proclaimed myself a riding god just my opinion as I did have the original tourance 80/20 tyres on my first gs in 2010 and I gave them a lot of grief in all weathers and they never let go either as I did say in my original comment it is more likely something on the road why they have let go

I would agree and disagree. Most modern tyres are quite good (I’m talking normal road tyres) and are better than 95% of riders abilities (me included)

I think the profile has a big part to play in rider perception. For example an aggressive profile that tips the bike into a comer quickly or even aggressively might feel to some riders like the bike is about to slide out particularly in the wet.

Then a flatter profile may have a rider feel like it’s numb and they don’t trust it - bloody thing wouldn’t turn in - nearly killed me etc

I do think some are much better in the wet then others. I say this based on nothing other than the opinions the voices in my head gave me - and how often the traction control would kick in on my commute. Particularly when part worn some tyres drastically loose their ability to shift water while others aren’t as bad.

 

[ymfb]

I like the Anakees

I have a pair in my loft, you are welcome to them, not kidding.

 

[Deleted account 191119001]

I have a pair in my loft, you are welcome to them, not kidding.

Bet your PM box fills up quickly, if they are for free...........

 

[Nice 'n' Fat]

I have a pair in my loft, you are welcome to them, not kidding.

That's very generous of you Steve but seeing as I'm looking to sell my GS and already have a spare rear ready to go on, I will leave that open to any others here in more desperate need

I love this place

Paul

 

[Warlord]

I'll have those Anakees if you don't want them... are they relatively new (age wise).

 

[Warlord]

I like Anakees, don't have any problems with mine...

 

[Skudd]

I find if I have confidence in a tyre I don't have any issues. I used to use Bridgestone on my Varadero until a few people sai that they were bad and I lost confidence in them and corners I used to take without issue then became awful. No change in tyre, bike or corner, just my confidence in the tyre. Never had Bridgestone since.

Hope your mate gets well soon.

 

[Morety]

In almost 35 years of riding, and in having owned perhaps 25 different bikes, some sports bikes, some tourers, some enduro types, the GS handles up there close to the best of them, just not as nimble as some. It doesn't have the suspension of the best but it's still good, better than average. It's no track day bike on flat out or average speeds BUT I have seen some very decent track riders run circles round poorer riders wobbling around on sports bikes, riding the GS until pegs were scraping. The only limit to the grip on the GS (or GSA) is the tyres used and the road/road conditions and of course rider control. The chassis is well up to the task. I have ridden my A41's past the edge on the rear and had the rear step out on that occasion. It was a warning and taught me the limit of the bike shod with those tyres. It isn't a bike to be ridden bolt upright as the whole idea behind it is unlike Harleys, it's not a one horse straight line pony, it's arguably the best all rounder on the planet and capable of being flung around A and B road twisties with the best of sports bikes. The rider 's experience and control obviously coming into play. The tyre choice I think is critical. I don't like Anakee 3's personally. Scorpions, A41's, Roadtech01s, Conti's and Tourance to my mind are all the better choice, and any decent rider should be able to exploit a GS to it's full on road potential on any of those tyres, at least in the dry. The A41's have been given an unfairly poor rep by some but as mentioned, that seems more down to bias/expectation than fact (in testing, they did very well coming high up the rankings in wet and dry conditions along with Scorpion 3's and Roadtech 01s).

 

[jags]

Road tec 01's it is then. £243 delivered !

i'm getting conti road attack 3s for 250 fitted. same size as hexhead for vstrom 650.

 

[Delboy777]

In almost 35 years of riding, and in having owned perhaps 25 different bikes, some sports bikes, some tourers, some enduro types, the GS handles up there close to the best of them, just not as nimble as some. It doesn't have the suspension of the best but it's still good, better than average. It's no track day bike on flat out or average speeds BUT I have seen some very decent track riders run circles round poorer riders wobbling around on sports bikes, riding the GS until pegs were scraping. The only limit to the grip on the GS (or GSA) is the tyres used and the road/road conditions and of course rider control. The chassis is well up to the task. I have ridden my A41's past the edge on the rear and had the rear step out on that occasion. It was a warning and taught me the limit of the bike shod with those tyres. It isn't a bike to be ridden bolt upright as the whole idea behind it is unlike Harleys, it's not a one horse straight line pony, it's arguably the best all rounder on the planet and capable of being flung around A and B road twisties with the best of sports bikes. The rider 's experience and control obviously coming into play. The tyre choice I think is critical. I don't like Anakee 3's personally. Scorpions, A41's, Roadtech01s, Conti's and Tourance to my mind are all the better choice, and any decent rider should be able to exploit a GS to it's full on road potential on any of those tyres, at least in the dry. The A41's have been given an unfairly poor rep by some but as mentioned, that seems more down to bias/expectation than fact (in testing, they did very well coming high up the rankings in wet and dry conditions along with Scorpion 3's and Roadtech 01s).

Im in Aberdeen this afternoon (Friday) for my bikes running in service. To say the rain coming down from Elgin was biblical is an understatement. 70 miles of hail water and the A41s felt good despite the amount of surface water on the road. Very progressive run considering the conditions and I didn’t at any time feel a lack of confidence in them. Beans on the way back and see how it goes.


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[Daggerit]

Im in Aberdeen this afternoon (Friday) for my bikes running in service. To say the rain coming down from Elgin was biblical is an understatement. 70 miles of hail water and the A41s felt good despite the amount of surface water on the road. Very progressive run considering the conditions and I didn’t at any time feel a lack of confidence in them. Beans on the way back and see how it goes.


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I thought the same about my A41's until the front folded for no apparent reason just out of Oldmeldrum in the rain... Be careful out there, the rain is ridiculous today.

 

[Deleted account 191119001]

Im in Aberdeen this afternoon (Friday) for my bikes running in service. To say the rain coming down from Elgin was biblical is an understatement. 70 miles of hail water and the A41s felt good despite the amount of surface water on the road. Very progressive run considering the conditions and I didn’t at any time feel a lack of confidence in them. Beans on the way back and see how it goes.


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Give you 50 quid for the new 01,s posted to me.......... some lovely storms up the top of the Black mountain today very localised, A3,s fine, again it only seems when loaded like a camel I get the odd washout, but not bad enough that I cannot control it.

 

[Delboy777]

I thought the same about my A41's until the front folded for no apparent reason just out of Oldmeldrum in the rain... Be careful out there, the rain is ridiculous today.

Well i just got home and the bloody rain never stopped all the way up that bloody A96 Off course Mr/Mrs fuckin slow were also out. Fuck me, you'd think they had seen rain before, braking at 30 mph on every bloody corner, does my tits in because of the almost continuous stream of traffic coming the opposite way obviously held up bt Mr/Mrs fuckin slows cousins down from the hills on their once a year trip to Tesco !!!

 

[Delboy777]

Give you 50 quid for the new 01,s posted to me.......... some lovely storms up the top of the Black mountain today very localised, A3,s fine, again it only seems when loaded like a camel I get the odd washout, but not bad enough that I cannot control it.

Very generous of you, i will send you the A41s if you like.