Any way to permanently disable ACC?

[Clifton]

I often use cruise but never wish adaptive cruise control be on. I've found that it can be turned off after fiddling to get to the distance setting then holding it for a few seconds but once the bike is restarted it reverts back again. Is there a way somewhere in the menu to turn it off once and for all? Or can a dealer disable that feature even if it means disabling the radar completely?

 

[mw3230]

Why buy a bike with a feature you dislike so much

 

[TaskMule]

Settings - Assist - Cruise Control -

 

[Clifton]

Why buy a bike with a feature you dislike so much

Well I tried finding a base model GS but no dealers in the east had one the only one was in Arizona at the time. My dealer could order a base but said it'd likely be June or July before we'd see it, then offered a more loaded 25 for the same price. The active suspension is nice but radar and up and down suspension I really wish weren't there. I assumed that the "adapted" cruise function could be disabled in the menu same as my car and truck. It appears it might be according to TaskMule.

Settings - Assist - Cruise Control -

Thank you, TaskMule! I was finally able to get to the "assist then cruise" and toggle back and forth between:



and this:



I believe the first image "Activate ACC OFF" with the box checked is where it was.
I have it now as "Activate ACC ON" with the box unchecked like the second image, which hopefully turns it off.
Pouring rain now so I can't go check but at least with your help I got to what looks to be the right place.

 

[botus]

I often use cruise but never wish adaptive cruise control be on. I've found that it can be turned off after fiddling to get to the distance setting then holding it for a few seconds but once the bike is restarted it reverts back again. Is there a way somewhere in the menu to turn it off once and for all? Or can a dealer disable that feature even if it means disabling the radar completely?

I think its Ducati - or one of the other main competitors, they now have the rider option to toggle either the old set up, or when traffic allows you can toggle to the radar stuff - (just read your post Clifton - that is an interesting point)

always wished my Merc had that or - when using ACC make sure you set your bike to as close as possible, and turn off Dynamic cruise madness (it makes it even worse, use Comfortable) - std is a 5 second gap rule, and coz its a bike the morons decide we can't have the much needed two second rule that would allow it to be usable - the closest they allow is 3 seconds and everyone pulls in front

having lived with how stupidly BMW active cruise - I rather have the old set up - and I wish I didn't have the nag in the mirror - whilst its almost useful - the mirrors need to go in a skip as you can't see anything at all in the ridiculous shape. If they were plain mirrors I'd have fitted the old round ones that function

 

[botus]

Well I tried finding a base model GS but no dealers in the east had one the only one was in Arizona at the time. My dealer could order a base but said it'd likely be June or July before we'd see it, then offered a more loaded 25 for the same price. The active suspension is nice but radar and up and down suspension I really wish weren't there. I assumed that the "adapted" cruise function could be disabled in the menu same as my car and truck. It appears it might be according to TaskMule.



Thank you, TaskMule! I was finally able to get to the "assist then cruise" and toggle back and forth between:

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and this:

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I believe the first image "Activate ACC OFF" with the box checked is where it was.
I have it now as "Activate ACC ON" with the box unchecked like the second image, which hopefully turns it off.
Pouring rain now so I can't go check but at least with your help I got to what looks to be the right place.

wow !!! are you saying you can have std cruise features on the BMW ?

 

[Barnoe]

Its funny isnt it.
One persons main reason for buy a 1300GS is for the ACC and another person hates it?

 

[leadfarmer]

Its funny isnt it.
One persons main reason for buy a 1300GS is for the ACC and another person hates it?

I think a lot depends on where you ride

I’ve only tried it on cars, on free flowing main roads and motorways I hate it, especially in bends

I do like normal CC and do use it on bikes and cars but ACC is the last thing I’d want on a bike

However, if I used the M25 or M6 regularly I’d probably think it was the greatest thing since sliced bread

 

[Barnoe]

I think a lot depends on where you ride

I’ve only tried it on cars, on free flowing main roads and motorways I hate it, especially in bends

I do like normal CC and do use it on bikes and cars but ACC is the last thing I’d want on a bike

However, if I used the M25 or M6 regularly I’d probably think it was the greatest thing since sliced bread

True, i was thinking motorway to be honest, eating up the miles and giving your wrist a rest.
Ive never used CC on normal roads, only on the motorway.

 

[MrC99]

True, i was thinking motorway to be honest, eating up the miles and giving your wrist a rest.
Ive never used CC on normal roads, only on the motorway.

It can be handy on longer average speed check sections.

 

[Clifton]

I find it distracting on the highway in traffic with other cars and trucks going at various speeds up and down hills. I just want to go my speed of say 77 mph overtaking slower vehicles as I come up on them. With adaptive I have to keep looking down at the speedo or I find myself pacing other vehicles at their speed.
On my car, even with adaptive turned off, it still brakes going down hills if it exceeds the set speed. Who ever heard of wasting free energy? Let it coast a few mph over set speed until it reaches the bottom of the hill. Brake pad manufacturers must be elated with auto breaking, traction control, and stability control jamming on the brakes all the time.

 

[TaskMule]

ACC is great when you're on the freeway through a city. You can spend lots of time playing with your phone and nav system and not have to worry about traffic in front of you

 

[Clifton]

ACC is great when you're on the freeway through a city.....

I'm sure it has its place which is why so many like it.

 

[GrinningGSer]

How times have changed ; my 2014 was , afaik, the first with cruise control . At that time , the Ducati mts designer, was asked why he hadn’t included cruise control . His answer , “We didn’t think anyone would want it!”
BMW and Ducati use the same ACC module , although the Ducati version isn’t as noticeable at the front. Hey it’s an individual choice .
Now we accept cruise and debate ACC .

 

[botus]

I think a lot depends on where you ride

100%, the idea is fantastic, all vehicles should have active cruise - but the implementation on the BM bikes is a catastrophe

I’ve only tried it on cars, on free flowing main roads and motorways I hate it, especially in bends

in 2007 I had active cruise on a 335D (of almost identical tech to the ACC on the current BM bikes) - at the time one of only three BM cars with ACC in the UK - it was brilliant, worked to utter perfection...
never misjudged, never hesitated, just got things right - so good, it was like being with the world's best chauffeur and after 60 miles round the M25 with half the world bad drivers just waved away, you'd totally forget it was even engaged - it was only coming off when crossing lanes to your exit - as you gauged the gaps between slow fools it could freak out, as it didn't have the ability to see what you could see was perfectly safe - and it would bang the ABS full on and get a wobble on over nothing

my Merc with ACC and extra radars for slow speed all the way to rest - and thus manages stop start traffic flow - is mostly is a dithering buffoon - most of its good points were ruined in a software update, and they introduced a load of other madness

-ve: Turns off if wipers have been going quick for x sweeps - yet never once missed a beat in extreme rain previously - and now won't re-engage till a key on off cycle leaving you with nothing !
-ve: Used to drive like a fool launching like its in a traffic light GP - But now fails to accelerate away fast enough to keep up with traffic
-ve: Now likes to forget what to do coming off slip roads to stationary traffic - before it was perfect and far safer
+ve and -ve: Obvious braking based on steering input - changed so less obvious - now flies at corners, less throttle would be safer and more comfortable, so much that in the wet they've made it dangerous
+ve: Reduced the road rage kick-down just to speed up 3mph like it used to do - still gains speed faster than they should have but doesn't change down

I do like normal CC and do use it on bikes and cars but ACC is the last thing I’d want on a bike

I use CC on cars and bikes all the time - cameras and congestion is so bad you need it all the time.
The old BM bike std cruise was great, set in any gear at any speed (unlike the manual states) all my UK bikes would set at 5 mph and I'd use in traffic all the time )

However, if I used the M25 or M6 regularly I’d probably think it was the greatest thing since sliced bread

You can't use ACC enjoyably around Stansted - they are really special, and even in the rain, they seem to think we should have less then the 1 second rule
And last time I used BM Bike ACC on a motorway it was a waste of space - on the M40 17:00 on a weekday, it was so offensive I gave up and did things myself - it loved to find the gaps between lanes and react stupid for no reason

 

[Clifton]

For most roads I ride CC isn't feasible but it sure is nice on certain highways. I used to replace the right bar end with one of those friction knobs that could be tightened to hold the throttle but obviously on hills it had to be overridden all the time. I believe my first motorcycle with actual cruise control was a 2009 Harley Electra Glide and decided then that I wouldn't want another midsize or larger bike w/o cruise.

 

[botus]

I believe the first image "Activate ACC OFF" with the box checked is where it was.
I have it now as "Activate ACC ON" with the box unchecked like the second image, which hopefully turns it off.
Pouring rain now so I can't go check but at least with your help I got to what looks to be the right place.

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wow !!! are you saying you can have std cruise features on the Radar cruise BMWs ?

gave it a go yesterday - if you untick the ACC box you do indeed revert back to std cruise control - but sadly regardless of the gear its in, its limited to 20 mph minimum activation speed - will see if Hex can manage that back to "normal" but I expect not as secure gateway access will trip us up

my old 1200LC and my K1600 would both set std cruise from 5 mph - even though the manual always claimed it was from 20 mph - which was very useful, use it frequently at lower speeds

 

[jefformston]

For most roads I ride CC isn't feasible but it sure is nice on certain highways. I used to replace the right bar end with one of those friction knobs that could be tightened to hold the throttle but obviously on hills it had to be overridden all the time. I believe my first motorcycle with actual cruise control was a 2009 Harley Electra Glide and decided then that I wouldn't want another midsize or larger bike w/o cruise.

I’ve used cc on probably every type of road, motorway to twisty narrow mountain roads and never had a problem. The throttle and brakes still work so easy to adjust speed either way.

 

[Clifton]

I’ve used cc on probably every type of road, motorway to twisty narrow mountain roads and never had a problem. The throttle and brakes still work so easy to adjust speed either way.

I don't know how cc could be worthwhile up and down a twisty mountain road constantly on and off the throttle and brakes. I guess just set some moderate speed, brake for the corners then hit resume to take you to the next corner.

 

[jefformston]

I don't know how cc could be worthwhile up and down a twisty mountain road constantly on and off the throttle and brakes. I guess just set some moderate speed, brake for the corners then hit resume to take you to the next corner.

That’s basically it, in the UK set to 70mph when wanting to effectively cruise along. When I want a bit more ‘go’ and excitement then leave it off. It’s a tool to use when wanted, it’s not compulsory. It can add to a ride without taking anything away.