Are the Chinese going to take over the bike market ?

[MILLE_RIDER]

By not giving my money to the World's largest and growing military/industrial country, who amongst other things is not averse to spying on us to gain even more advantage. Much better to give it our close European friends.

As soon as the Chinese can afford to do so they will fuck us all over and we will have no industrial infrastructure to respond

 

[Engineer]

As soon as the Chinese can afford to do so they will fuck us all over and we will have no industrial infrastructure to respond

Unfortunately we are pretty close to that point - the least we should do is to check everything we buy and where possible don't buy Chinese - if the only option appears to be Chinese, check whether or not you really need the thing.

 

[alan29]

They certainly seem to be selling a lot of 125s into third world countries.

 

[Engineer]

They certainly seem to be selling a lot of 125s into third world countries.

They sell a lot of everything, just go into any high street shop in the UK and check out the labels of where stuff is made, it's quite shocking.
Real patriots (not the Farage, Trump and single issue numpty patriots) check what they buy.

Back to Chinese bikes - who still wants one?

 

[Mr Bean]

They sell a lot of everything, just go into any high street shop in the UK and check out the labels of where stuff is made, it's quite shocking.
Real patriots (not the Farage, Trump and single issue numpty patriots) check what they buy.

Back to Chinese bikes - who still wants one?

90 per cent of the many £m's the company I work for, come from China.

Problem is that much NHS of the UK award criteria through tenders is heavily weighted to cost, meaning that little of the spend originates from UK producers - and never will without a shift in an holistic assessment of procurement, and the wider implications.

 

[ATT]

They sell a lot of everything, just go into any high street shop in the UK and check out the labels of where stuff is made, it's quite shocking.
Real patriots (not the Farage, Trump and single issue numpty patriots) check what they buy.

Back to Chinese bikes - who still wants one?

I am just about to get a Voge 300 Rally...It is going to be epic.

 

[TIJ650]

The only good thing that’s come of the Chinese invasion is the Japs are now digging into their deep pockets to compete.
We’re already seeing a new wave of quality, inexpensive stuff coming out of Japan and that can only be good news for the discerning consumer.
If you’re stupid enough to buy a cheap Chinese shiny thing, then lets see how you’ll feel 3 or 4 years after purchase when the little fuckers won’t want to fix or sell you parts for?! lol
Conversely my 15 year old Harley with straight through pipes and zero regard for NET zero just flew through its MOT with no advisories. Yes it’s not the most cutting edge and eats £250 tyres, but hey ho

 

[Engineer]

I am just about to get a Voge 300 Rally...It is going to be epic.

Well you are no longer a patriot and it is cheap, so no surprise there.

 

[Engineer]

The only good thing that’s come of the Chinese invasion is the Japs are now digging into their deep pockets to compete.
We’re already seeing a new wave of quality, inexpensive stuff coming out of Japan and that can only be good news for the discerning consumer.
If you’re stupid enough to buy a cheap Chinese shiny thing, then lets see how you’ll feel 3 or 4 years after purchase when the little fuckers won’t want to fix or sell you parts for?! lol
Conversely my 15 year old Harley with straight through pipes and zero regard for NET zero just flew through its MOT with no advisories. Yes it’s not the most cutting edge and eats £250 tyres, but hey ho

Trouble is much of the cheap Japanese stuff will be made in China and then re-branded and polished in Japan before being sold over here.

 

[wessie]

Trouble is much of the cheap Japanese stuff will be made in China and then re-branded and polished in Japan before being sold over here.

much like a huge proportion of that thing you have that was assembled in Berlin from Chinese sub assemblies.

you seem to be rather blinkered about the reality of stuff supposedly manufactured in Europe.

 

[TIJ650]

Trouble is much of the cheap Japanese stuff will be made in China and then re-branded and polished in Japan before being sold over here.

Yeah, but will benefit from the Japanese after sales service. Their quality control will probably remove a lot of the really cheap afterthought stuff too. The Chinese buy all the big stuff in making their copies, but often forget a lot of the fabrication parts. Hopefully the Japanese scrutiny will prevent this
In any case, you’ll be able to shout at Mr Honda rather than some Chinese AI bot

 

[leadfarmer]

I am just about to get a Voge 300 Rally...It is going to be epic.

Got a Voge dealer about a km from my house, they seem pretty well built

 

[TYKEBBS]

I owned a Voge 525 DSX for a while...it is a good bike , with lots of standard fit stuff

 

[TIJ650]

I’m just happy the Chinese will never corner the bike market (in my lifetime) the way they have with electric cars. I doubt few on this forum would ever buy an electric bike, myself included. That gives me some comfort in avoiding them (Chinese)!
Meanwhile back at the ranch, I’m still clinging onto my diesel car and hope I’ll never have to decline bellow a petrol hybrid in my lifetime………..cause if I ever buy a full electric car it’ll probably be Chinese!!

 

[Neil W]

Name one Chinese bike that has style, class or character. They specialise in doing their own versions of hum drum bikes they manufacture for European manufacturers. I haven't seen hardly any original development on a Chinese bike so there must be little r&d going on. Many of their engines are developments of long in the tooth Japanese original designs. They may build the engines the KTMs and BMWs but they didn't develop them

Look what happened with the early f850gs motors , developed in Germany and the first prototype ones built in China under German supervision were fine , first production ones were failing due to shoddy production once the Germans turned their backs and stopped supervising.
Brother in law bought a CF Moto 650 and looked like a KTM with a versys 650 motor, once you got under the skin the wiring was shocking and the quality of the alloy was shite .Had to change the screen supports as the cracked, you could snap them by hand

 

[MILLE_RIDER]

Got a Voge dealer about a km from my house, they seem pretty well built

Let's wait and see what they look like after 5 years of winter commuting. The reality of after sales service and parts availability will be known by then as well. The only owning experience I have read on here is by folk who have bought a new one and got rid before it even needed replacement tyres

 

[leadfarmer]

Let's wait and see what they look like after 5 years of winter commuting. The reality of after sales service and parts availability will be known by then as well. The only owning experience I have read on here is by folk who have bought a new one and got rid before it even needed replacement tyres

Also true

 

[Arsey]

I’m just happy the Chinese will never corner the bike market (in my lifetime) the way they have with electric cars. I doubt few on this forum would ever buy an electric bike, myself included. That gives me some comfort in avoiding them (Chinese)!
Meanwhile back at the ranch, I’m still clinging onto my diesel car and hope I’ll never have to decline bellow a petrol hybrid in my lifetime………..cause if I ever buy a full electric car it’ll probably be Chinese!!

Funnily enough I’m toying with buying an electric bike at the moment

 

[TIJ650]

Funnily enough I’m toying with buying an electric bike at the moment

Ever the contrarian……….until you get bored and come back to the fold?! lol

 

[L2RKE]

Funnily enough I’m toying with buying an electric bike at the moment

The British built Maeving RM2 looks reasonable but expensive. Removable batteries and no chain. But still not for me I'm afraid.