Are there only unhelpful people working at Cannon BMW Braintree

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Cannon appear to have a number of problems in the engineering department at the moment.

When I was in last week for a service I was told by Mrs Cannon that they were having a problem with sick absence at the moment which was why there were 3 chaps all waiting for their bikes at 16:00 which had been dropped off at 09:30 when they opened. Bit too much of a delay on a 2 1/2 hour service.

Unfortunately that was the same excuse they used at the last service my bike was in for 9 months earlier, and Mr Cannon was having to help out in the service bay again.

One chap had brought back his new RT (around 500 miles) which had had the EWS failure and Cannon had applied the fix which involved some drilling of the frame (apparently) and the swaff had gone into the fork seals - nice.

Added to which there were only two staff left in the place who were there when I bought my bike last year. I never think it's a good sign when so many staff have changed.

All in all, I won't be going back and many of the people I have spoken too since have got concerns and are now thinking of going else where too.

I also noted that they now charge for a loan bike while they have yours all day for a 2 hour service. Ok fair enough they loan you the bike but when you move your business to the outskirts of an industrial estate and then keep your bike for 8 instead of 2 hours - you would have thought they might have waived that when you're spending £100's with them and daft as it might seem, I take exception to not being offered a drink when I have been kept waiting 4 hours more than I was told to collect my bike.... Nope nothing.

The most disturbing thing for me was that when I spoke to Mrs C about all my problems, although to be fair she repeatedly apologised for the failings, she never once tried to persuade me to remain a customer - more or less suggesting I go elsewhere.

The beginning of the end for Cannon?

An unfortunate state of affairs from what you say and good to see someone putting their side of the story across.

At the end of the day though the way Lord Vader has been spoken to/treated is nothing short of scandelous. I wouldn't expect that attitude from any bike dealer, let alone one as upmarket/expensive as a BMW place!

The Customer Service Manger is simply not doing his job - That is looking after Customer Service.

Get Head Office involved and teach these people a valuable lesson. Understaffed or not there's simply no excuse for this sort of behaviour. :spitfire

We all pay good money (And lots thereof) for both BMW bikes and for professionals to look after them. This lot appear to have lost the plot to say the least...
 
Here as promised is a letter you might like to send to Cannon. I suggest that you only copy it to BuMW in Bracknell. It is not so much a letter, in fact, more a listing of simple to follow facts.

Don't forget to put the cc (it stands for carbon copy) BMW on the bottom after your name, or Cannon will not know you have told BMW as well.

This tactic serves three purposes. (1) It gives Cannon a chance to sort you out properly. (2) It makes BuMW very aware of your problems. (3) It makes Cannon very aware that BuMW are aware.

There are some bits for you to fill in.

Good luck.

Richard.

PS Don't forget to add your own address and telephone number!

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The Senior Manager
Cannon BMW
The Power Station,
5d Enterprise Court,
Lakes Road,
Braintree,
Essex CM7 3QS

Dear Sir,

RE: Insert your name here / 1200GSA / Insert your registration number here

I am so disappointed with the current state of my motorbike. I am also very disappointed with Cannon's inability to fix the problem and, worse, their attitude towards me, a customer.

Please may I make you aware of the sequence of events:

(1) Insert date when the problem started: Just before my last routine scheduled service the bike's dashboard red warning triangle lit up. At the same time the motorbike's speedometer went crazy.

(2) The fault was reported at the time of the routine service, INSERT DATE, and I was told, mended.

(3) Within two weeks (roughly 500 miles) the red triangle lit up again. I returned to your dealership. I was told that the cause of the fault was different but could not be traced as nothing was showing up on the bike's diagnostic system.

(4) I then rode the bike for another 1,900 miles (4 days) and again the warning light came on. As you can see, there has so far been three warning lights in about 2,400 miles, one fix and one failure to diagnose.

(5) I returned the bike, yet again, and agreed that you could hold the vehicle for a week while I was away on business. On Friday I called the dealership, to be told that the bike was ready for collection. Quite incredibly I was also told that there was to be a 45 minute charge for removing / refitting some small aftermarket, brake reservoir cover, parts. I was, perhaps not unreasonably, not happy, having suffered three warning lights and no to be faced with what was definitely an unreasonable charge. I asked whether someone from the senior management would be in the dealership on Saturday, as I would like to take the matter up with them. I was told that someone would be there.

(6) On Saturday I arrived at the dealership, only to be told that nobody of suitable authority was there to talk to me, them being VIP guests at Goodwood. So, despite nobody being there I asked your colleague to re-check the charge. This she did, having discovered that the 45 minute task was not on the job file. It then transpired that it was a mistake, the job only taking 20 minutes. I was also told that all three warning lights had come from the same cause. this though had now, at last, been solved as "Something to do with the ABS, under the tank, had been changed".

By now I was cross. (a) There was nobody in authority in the dealership, when I had been promised there would be. (b) I had been presented with an undocumented bill for 45 minutes labour, when (on checking) the real time was 20 minutes. The only good news was that I was told the fault had been fixed. Your colleague then simply handed me the keys, promising that someone would call me on Tuesday.

(7) Nobody called me on Tuesday.

(8) Then, just 75 miles later, the red triangle appeared, again. That is now, four red triangles, two definite fixes and one attempt to charge me wrongly. Any reasonable person's temper would be increasing by now.

(9) I returned to your dealership, again. I spoke to the Customer Service Manager who remembered me from the last visit. I told him that the red triangle warning light was back on, for the fourth time! Your Customer Service Manager then proceeded to ignore me. Instead he rolled eyes with his colleague, starting a virtual comedy routine, talking about the mechanic and faulty ABS units. In short, totally dismissing me.

I then interrupted their chit-chat to ask what was to happen now? I do not see this as an unreasonable question for a customer to ask. The Customer Service's Manager's response was incredible, "What do you want us to?" My straightforward reply was, "How about fixing my bike?". I was then told there was nothing that could be done, beyond calling BMW to come to Cannon's assistance.

So, we now have: Four red triangles, two promises that three of the faults were the same (and had been fixed), and incorrect bill, missing senior managers and, to be blunt, a rude Customer Service Manager. All within the space of a few weeks.

I asked if, whilst Cannon sought the assistance of BMW, a loan bike might be made available? I did not see this as unreasonable in view of the warning triangle's now regular appearance and nobody having any idea how to fix it. In short, I was told, no.

In summary. I bought my BMW motorcycle in the belief that, having paid a premium price, I would be enjoying both a reliable vehicle and above all confident, professional, service. Neither of these qualities have been in evidence. I am incredibly disappointed with the Cannon dealership and the bike itself. So much so that I have no choice but to send a copy of this letter to BMW in Bracknell.

Yours sincerely,

YOUR SIGNATURE

cc BMW Bracknell.
 
Kate Cannon is lovely, bright, intelligent and will hopefully inherit more than a debt. She is not a moron.

Agree with you about Kate on all three counts! She is often let down by the others and, incredibly, her family.

The rest? Well, least said the better....

There is an independent chap in Chelmsford (used to be with Cannon) operating out of a unit not far from the old Regina Road site, I think.

May be worth a try?
 
East Anglia

I have to admit that I did have problems with dealers in East Anglia; my grandad was born there (in about 1860) and little has changed - that though is the charm of the region!!
I was fortunate because I was introduced to the chief motorcycle mechanic at the Sufflk police headquarters at Martlesham Heath (where I lived;) He looked after my R100RS superbly - but I am afraid that he will be retired now
 
I suppose you could always pitch up on Sunday (it is their Open Day) and make a huge fuss in front of lots of existing and potential customers?
 
Here as promised is a letter you might like to send to Cannon. I suggest that you only copy it to BuMW in Bracknell. It is not so much a letter, in fact, more a listing of simple to follow facts.

Don't forget to put the cc (it stands for carbon copy) BMW on the bottom after your name, or Cannon will not know you have told BMW as well.

This tactic serves three purposes. (1) It gives Cannon a chance to sort you out properly. (2) It makes BuMW very aware of your problems. (3) It makes Cannon very aware that BuMW are aware.

There are some bits for you to fill in.

Good luck.

Richard.

PS Don't forget to add your own address and telephone number!

====

The Senior Manager
Cannon BMW
The Power Station,
5d Enterprise Court,
Lakes Road,
Braintree,
Essex CM7 3QS

Dear Sir,

RE: Insert your name here / 1200GSA / Insert your registration number here

I am so disappointed with the current state of my motorbike. I am also very disappointed with Cannon's inability to fix the problem and, worse, their attitude towards me, a customer.

Please may I make you aware of the sequence of events:

(1) Insert date when the problem started: Just before my last routine scheduled service the bike's dashboard red warning triangle lit up. At the same time the motorbike's speedometer went crazy.

(2) The fault was reported at the time of the routine service, INSERT DATE, and I was told, mended.

(3) Within two weeks (roughly 500 miles) the red triangle lit up again. I returned to your dealership. I was told that the cause of the fault was different but could not be traced as nothing was showing up on the bike's diagnostic system.

(4) I then rode the bike for another 1,900 miles (4 days) and again the warning light came on. As you can see, there has so far been three warning lights in about 2,400 miles, one fix and one failure to diagnose.

(5) I returned the bike, yet again, and agreed that you could hold the vehicle for a week while I was away on business. On Friday I called the dealership, to be told that the bike was ready for collection. Quite incredibly I was also told that there was to be a 45 minute charge for removing / refitting some small aftermarket, brake reservoir cover, parts. I was, perhaps not unreasonably, not happy, having suffered three warning lights and no to be faced with what was definitely an unreasonable charge. I asked whether someone from the senior management would be in the dealership on Saturday, as I would like to take the matter up with them. I was told that someone would be there.

(6) On Saturday I arrived at the dealership, only to be told that nobody of suitable authority was there to talk to me, them being VIP guests at Goodwood. So, despite nobody being there I asked your colleague to re-check the charge. This she did, having discovered that the 45 minute task was not on the job file. It then transpired that it was a mistake, the job only taking 20 minutes. I was also told that all three warning lights had come from the same cause. this though had now, at last, been solved as "Something to do with the ABS, under the tank, had been changed".

By now I was cross. (a) There was nobody in authority in the dealership, when I had been promised there would be. (b) I had been presented with an undocumented bill for 45 minutes labour, when (on checking) the real time was 20 minutes. The only good news was that I was told the fault had been fixed. Your colleague then simply handed me the keys, promising that someone would call me on Tuesday.

(7) Nobody called me on Tuesday.

(8) Then, just 75 miles later, the red triangle appeared, again. That is now, four red triangles, two definite fixes and one attempt to charge me wrongly. Any reasonable person's temper would be increasing by now.

(9) I returned to your dealership, again. I spoke to the Customer Service Manager who remembered me from the last visit. I told him that the red triangle warning light was back on, for the fourth time! Your Customer Service Manager then proceeded to ignore me. Instead he rolled eyes with his colleague, starting a virtual comedy routine, talking about the mechanic and faulty ABS units. In short, totally dismissing me.

I then interrupted their chit-chat to ask what was to happen now? I do not see this as an unreasonable question for a customer to ask. The Customer Service's Manager's response was incredible, "What do you want us to?" My straightforward reply was, "How about fixing my bike?". I was then told there was nothing that could be done, beyond calling BMW to come to Cannon's assistance.

So, we now have: Four red triangles, two promises that three of the faults were the same (and had been fixed), and incorrect bill, missing senior managers and, to be blunt, a rude Customer Service Manager. All within the space of a few weeks.

I asked if, whilst Cannon sought the assistance of BMW, a loan bike might be made available? I did not see this as unreasonable in view of the warning triangle's now regular appearance and nobody having any idea how to fix it. In short, I was told, no.

In summary. I bought my BMW motorcycle in the belief that, having paid a premium price, I would be enjoying both a reliable vehicle and above all confident, professional, service. Neither of these qualities have been in evidence. I am incredibly disappointed with the Cannon dealership and the bike itself. So much so that I have no choice but to send a copy of this letter to BMW in Bracknell.

Yours sincerely,

YOUR SIGNATURE

cc BMW Bracknell.
Dir Sir, i owe you many Beer tokens:bow:bow
Honest
Thank you very much
I shall send them of in the morning

I suppose you could always pitch up on Sunday (it is their Open Day) and make a huge fuss in front of lots of existing and potential customers?
Dont you tempt me:rob
Would love to do my :ronno impersonation
or maybe walk up and down with a big banner saying: Cannon BMW %&*@#~
 
Nice work Wapping :thumb2 I hope this gets sorted - mine is due for it's 6K service at Cannons at the begining of August so I will be watching what happens here very carefully :clap
 
Would there be any objections if I were to show this thread to Mr/Mrs Cannon and invite a reply. Whilst I accept what has been said, there are always two sides to every story and it might be helpful (and fairer) to give them the opportunity to reply, if they wished to? There are many valid reasons why they may decline this offer but should it be made? :hide
 
Would there be any objections if I were to show this thread to Mr/Mrs Cannon and invite a reply. Whilst I accept what has been said, there are always two sides to every story and it might be helpful (and fairer) to give them the opportunity to reply, if they wished to? There are many valid reasons why they may decline this offer but should it be made? :hide

It's a public forum, why not? They're going to get the letter that Wappings helped LV write anyway and I'm sure LV will update this thread with the response he gets :thumb2
 
Sounds like a good idea

Would there be any objections if I were to show this thread to Mr/Mrs Cannon and invite a reply. Whilst I accept what has been said, there are always two sides to every story and it might be helpful (and fairer) to give them the opportunity to reply, if they wished to? There are many valid reasons why they may decline this offer but should it be made? :hide

That is obviously the best way to get your bike put right and to sort everything out in the quickest possible way.
 
Yep.

It'll be both interesting and helpful to see what Mr/Mrs Cannon's response is to this. From the sounds of things they may not be aware of the situation and how their reputation is being put at risk by the actions described thus far.

:)
 
Good idea

Would there be any objections if I were to show this thread to Mr/Mrs Cannon and invite a reply. Whilst I accept what has been said, there are always two sides to every story and it might be helpful (and fairer) to give them the opportunity to reply, if they wished to? There are many valid reasons why they may decline this offer but should it be made? :hide

Sort of what I meant by pitching up on Sunday. I got their newsletter yesterday and they are both going to be there - lots of test rides / BBQ etc so plenty of opportunity to speak directly to them and express your dissatifaction.
 
It's a public forum, why not? They're going to get the letter that Wappings helped LV write anyway and I'm sure LV will update this thread with the response he gets :thumb2
Sure go ahead,i unfortunately will not be able to go to there open day but it would be interesting to hear their response.Surely they got to be aware of the GS'er forum and how quickly word spreads around.
The Letters went of this morning to both Cannon and BMW UK.BMW UK replied straight away with a confirmation e-mail and the promise to look into it.:thumb
 
dealers

had similar type probs with sbw with poor running that did not manifest itself whilst in workshop,bike under warranty and they tried to charge me? after spending 10k think we deserve better than this-i refused to pay and will never darken their doors again.
even remembering months later has my blood pressure rising again :rolleyes:
 
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