Some interesting ideas/facts, I don't think it will change the way I ride
Are we leaning the wrong way?
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it's taken you 4 years to read/watch this ?
It was only brought to my attention yesterday. Is it 4 years old? Have the laws of physics changed in that time. I still play records that are 60 years old and still discover some of that age that are new to me
. Maybe some missed this vid first time around, as I did.
it works at slow speed , for me.
I believe it depends on the total CofG of the motorcycle . Sit high up then lean the wrong way .Ride a race bike , lean the correct way .
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Ryanf9...I've always considered him as a bit of a twat
Just saying
Just saying
Followed a guy down to Pampalona on the 1250 GSA a few years back, he rode the ‘wrong’ way.
F@ck he was quick!!
Faster entry but slower on the exit. Managed to keep up, but only just.
Looked really weird but it obviously worked for him
F@ck he was quick!!
Faster entry but slower on the exit. Managed to keep up, but only just.
Looked really weird but it obviously worked for him
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I also counter lean on smaller enduro bikes
Feels more natural to push a smaller bike down into the bend for some reason, don’t do it in the GS or Tenere though
Feels more natural to push a smaller bike down into the bend for some reason, don’t do it in the GS or Tenere though
I definitely counter lean on taller bikes like my GS and Tenere .
Counter leaning is all well and good at very slow speeds such as a slalom through cones etc but has a few issues as speed increases, including a risk of riding off the tyre edge whilst still upright, grounding out part of the bike early, or running out of lean and having nowhere left to go........ as a technique I don't like it much though it has its place.
As a novice rider I would counter lean everywhere at all speeds, until one day on a slippery wet roundabout riding my Thundercat my luck almost ran out as I went past the edge of the tyre whilst lean over on an off-camber surface. The resulting rear wheel slide and almost high siding scared the shit out of me and caused me to evaluate my mistake and correct my riding style.
In linked hairpins many years later in Germany I followed a pal that was counter leaning his GSA into every bend and then running out of lean. I however was hanging off on the fat part of the tyre with the bike more upright, then pulling the bike bars down further once past the apex whilst simultaneously rolling on the throttle (in the last 30% of the turn) and gaining both speed and lean angle before standing the bike up as I applied yet more throttle and firing it out. Basically, I was all over him like a cheap suit and in the end he had to wave me past, at which point I fucked off into the distance.
As a novice rider I would counter lean everywhere at all speeds, until one day on a slippery wet roundabout riding my Thundercat my luck almost ran out as I went past the edge of the tyre whilst lean over on an off-camber surface. The resulting rear wheel slide and almost high siding scared the shit out of me and caused me to evaluate my mistake and correct my riding style.
In linked hairpins many years later in Germany I followed a pal that was counter leaning his GSA into every bend and then running out of lean. I however was hanging off on the fat part of the tyre with the bike more upright, then pulling the bike bars down further once past the apex whilst simultaneously rolling on the throttle (in the last 30% of the turn) and gaining both speed and lean angle before standing the bike up as I applied yet more throttle and firing it out. Basically, I was all over him like a cheap suit and in the end he had to wave me past, at which point I fucked off into the distance.
On a dirt bike, off road, staying on top of the bike and pushing it down onto its side is the right approach if you're going fast. On a road bike, on road the opposite is true, keeping the bike upright and hanging off the inside is better because as others have said it keeps you on the fatter part of the tyre. I admit to sometimes getting confused when I'm riding an adventure type bike with wide bars on the road and I end up pushing it down into corners then bollock myself afterwards. Here's a picture of me doing it wrong on a 990 supermoto. Still managed to frazz the tyres though 
If you ride a sportsbike at high speed, one of those options is going to help you high side pretty quick.
I think sitting up looks unnatural?
I think sitting up looks unnatural?
I just lean with the bike, same as I would expect (hope) a pillion to do, sack of potatoes stylee
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