Basecamp keeps crashing when searching

The others, MRA , google maps etc are fine if you just want A to B routings. However if one wants to plot/plan a more interesting or scenic route then Basecamp is just about the only viable alternative. Basecamp routes are sent straight to my Garmin Zumo too. None of this changing it to GPX type thing, just sent straight from Basecamp to the sat nav, job done.
You haven't used MRA have you Osmand. Or any other of the Basecamp alternatives? All are good at producing complex routes. I like and use Basecamp but for producing routes on the fly MRA is hard to beat.

It appears that Basecamp can be problematic on Macs. Don't know I'm a PC user.
 
For as much as I am not a big fan of MRA and still prefer sticking with the slowly dying Basecamp for the time being, it has to be said that MRA is perfectly capable (and built to) create complex routes - as BC does. It has some limitations (imho) but it’s growing.

Btw, .gpx is the file format/wrapper. Even when Basecamp sends stuff to your Zumo, it sends a .gpx file.
 
The others, MRA , google maps etc are fine if you just want A to B routings. However if one wants to plot/plan a more interesting or scenic route then Basecamp is just about the only viable alternative. Basecamp routes are sent straight to my Garmin Zumo too. None of this changing it to GPX type thing, just sent straight from Basecamp to the sat nav, job done.

MyRoute, is more than capable of creating complex routes.

It is very easy to export a route created in MyRoute to a Garmin device.

Not least, MyRoute scores over BaseCamp and / or MapSource, as it does not require a laptop in order to use it. A phone or iPad is enough.

MyRoute’s only significant failings?

A. Maybe it’s route library (where you keep routes you’ve created) could perhaps be better.

B. If the user does a lot of pure off-road riding.

How do I know? Because I used (and very much liked using) MapSource and BaseCamp for years. I now use MyRoute exclusively.


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You haven't used MRA have you Osmand. Or any other of the Basecamp alternatives? All are good at producing complex routes. I like and use Basecamp but for producing routes on the fly MRA is hard to beat.

It appears that Basecamp can be problematic on Macs. Don't know I'm a PC user.
Yeah I’ve tried MRA but for some reason I cannot send the route direct to my Zumo. I have to try to create a GPX whatever that is and then try to get the device to accept the GPX which it seems very unwilling to do. Just create a route in Basecamp and send it directly to the Zumo. Job done. None of this change the route to GPX or anything, just send to device.
I don’t have or want a mac what ever that is. I just make routes on my laptop.

Oh, Basecamp doesn’t cost anything (I am a Yorkshireman) either, no annual or monthly fee.
 
MyRoute, is more than capable of creating complex routes.

It is very easy to export a route created in MyRoute to a Garmin device.

Not least, MyRoute scores over BaseCamp and / or MapSource, as it does not require a laptop in order to use it. A phone or iPad is enough.

MyRoute’s only significant failings?

A. Maybe it’s route library (where you keep routes you’ve created) could perhaps be better.

B. If the user does a lot of pure off-road riding.

How do I know? Because I used (and very much liked using) MapSource and BaseCamp for years. I now use MyRoute exclusively.


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MRA still doesn’t handle waypoints/favourites well, and as above doesn’t really do tracks. I imported multiple tracks and routes created in Basecamp, in a gpx file with all the waypoints but it ignores the waypoints, which is a pain.

But other than that, I agree with Wapping, for most use cases for road riding, it’s convenience wins out
 
MRA still doesn’t handle waypoints/favourites well, and as above doesn’t really do tracks. I imported multiple tracks and routes created in Basecamp, in a gpx file with all the waypoints but it ignores the waypoints, which is a pain.

But other than that, I agree with Wapping, for most use cases for road riding, it’s convenience wins out
I would agree with that. I still use basecamp for tracks and POI's. I load POI's onto the XT using poi loader. MRA handles waypoints differently than basecamp. All of the waypoints/viapoints/shaping points that are included in the route come across to MRA if the route is created in Basecamp, but are not transferred to favourites.

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If you import the whole thing to MRA you get this.

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with the Waypoints/via points as hands and the shaping points as balloons. But the list of waypoints don't go into favourites if you subsequently download the route to your Garmin unit

To get those into your unit with the route you need to go here; export your waypoints from basecamp as a gpx file to your computer and upload the file to POI's. Then when transferring the the route file to your Garmin unit you need to enable the relevant POI list before you transfer the route to your device and then these will be loaded to favourites. Unfortunately, POI's cannot be put into folders or organised particularly well in MRA so I experimented with it for a while then left it alone. I use the Garmin for POI's and favourites when needed on my XT and use my phone and MRA for navigation. 90% of the time.

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Having now used MRA over 2 long EU jaunts ( 1 car and 1 bike trip). I like it. Its fast, it can be used across multiple platforms, almost seamlessly! Almost. Its easy ish to create a route esp in the website, then ride it via the App.. Its a steep learning curve. But, as everything is always saved...yet
1. I created a route, opened it and started navigating. I added a stop in. All dandy. I decided to go for a snack, so took phone out of car and to prevent instructions being announced in the cafe, I stopped navigation. Got back in car and opened route and off I went...but the stop had not been included now in the route. Obviously as it was not originally included. BUT MRA insists on saving all stuff and synching stuff all the time, so I would have thought that change would have synched up. Oh well. Hard to re enter the stop when on a motorway so that let me down. Also if running out of time, changing the route on the fly from avoid motorways to accept motorways sometimes throws a curveball (the Garmin devices handle this much better)
2. Sound in the car through the cars system is treated as bluetooth music stream, not voice. So you get to listen to your music from the phone and every time you turn volume of music down, you turn volume of navigation down...) Not so with Google maps or others. You can also not increase sound of nav via the app, it just springs back. Small things but not seamless yet. The zumo integrates better at all levels, but for planning on the go, MRA is probably worth keeping
3. I dont see any benefit of subscribing to anything other than MRA Next navigation as I can do what I need for £3.95 a month
4. I prefer my Zumo and Basecamp overall I think
 
I used Mapsource, then Basecamp for many years however, since I changed to the MRA web app a few years ago, I found everything that I needed to produce suitable tour routes and less reasons to use Basecamp for the same.
Initially, I would always revert back to Basecamp with the route I prepared with the MRA app however, now I don't even bother with that anymore. For me, the only thing I miss from basecamp is the ability to show saved routes in different colours together, I know this can be done with MRA but it isn't as convenient a process.

Everything else I need, including Streetview, comparing routes with Google maps/Michelin/Tom Tom/Open Street maps and planning scenic routes is available and of course, as time goes by, more improvements are being made whereas, Basecamp remains static.

Obviously each to their own, I still update Basecamp maps, even though it is harder on a Mac, however the MRA web app is now my go to route planning app.
 
So today I wanted to do some route planning. Loaded up basecamp. Tells me there is a new version of Garmin Express. And new maps. Installs all tickety boo. Launches. Maps on Basecamp are now 2026.2. But go to basecamp and search for anything, It does find your hotel, campsite etc. But try and click or add new waypoint to route and boom, basecamp just closes. Basecamp v 4.7.5.
Anyone else having this issue or are well now MRA converts?
Use Nav-on-Bike instead (Mac)
 


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