Basic GSA

[Yonkyo]

The question of ESA or not is always coming up and always will while it's an option. I like the ESA option and it's my money so I will have what I want. Then there's the complexity of ESAWilburs and ESAOhlins versus the stock ESA shocks. I know that for me it would be a sheer waste of time and money putting a set of Wilburs or Ohlins on my bike. It may make it look a bit more blinged up, but in terms of how my bike performs with me riding it, they would make no difference, make no sense and therefore a total waste of money. I know this, because my stock ESA setup has no weaknesses - for me. On my bike and with my riding style. And I do know the difference between crap suspension and good suspension - I have just forked out a load of dosh to improve the handling of my K1100RS because it was handling like a bloated whale. But on the GSA, the stock suspension just so happens to be perfect - for me. I cannot fault it in any way whatsoever. Now, the trackday and riding gods will have different views, but that's irrelevant for me as I know I won't notice any difference.

What would make me think about changing is if the shocks actually break, but I will cross that bridge if I get to it.

The stock ESA shocks work absolutely perfect for me, And i have no intention to upgrade them thanks.

 

[Deleted account 251212001]

i'll have a pint of what you're having

Got a better idea, Have a nice big cup of shut the f*** up

does the traction control prevent wheelies ?

I dont wheelie i guess it does

The question of ESA or not is always coming up and always will while it's an option. I like the ESA option and it's my money so I will have what I want. Then there's the complexity of ESAWilburs and ESAOhlins versus the stock ESA shocks. I know that for me it would be a sheer waste of time and money putting a set of Wilburs or Ohlins on my bike. It may make it look a bit more blinged up, but in terms of how my bike performs with me riding it, they would make no difference, make no sense and therefore a total waste of money. I know this, because my stock ESA setup has no weaknesses - for me. On my bike and with my riding style. And I do know the difference between crap suspension and good suspension - I have just forked out a load of dosh to improve the handling of my K1100RS because it was handling like a bloated whale. But on the GSA, the stock suspension just so happens to be perfect - for me. I cannot fault it in any way whatsoever. Now, the trackday and riding gods will have different views, but that's irrelevant for me as I know I won't notice any difference.

What would make me think about changing is if the shocks actually break, but I will cross that bridge if I get to it.

Agreed

 

[karlp]

Yes, the ESA will retard the ignition if it detects a wheelie. However, with one push on the 'mode button' you can switch to a less intrusive setting which will allow you a 5 second minger. Then with a further press of the button the ESA can be switched off completely. So you can 'stunt' to your hearts content.

You really mean ASC - 'cos ESA is the suspension

 

[snerkler]

Yes, the ESA will retard the ignition if it detects a wheelie. However, with one push on the 'mode button' you can switch to a less intrusive setting which will allow you a 5 second minger. Then with a further press of the button the ESA can be switched off completely. So you can 'stunt' to your hearts content.

You learn something new everyday don't you, I didn't realise that ASC had an intermediate setting Does anything show on the OBC to show that you've put the ASC on the intermediate setting?

 

[Yonkyo]

You really mean ASC - 'cos ESA is the suspension

Oooops....er..yes.

Bloody acronyms

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[Yonkyo]

You learn something new everyday don't you, I didn't realise that ASC had an intermediate setting Does anything show on the OBC to show that you've put the ASC on the intermediate setting?

Ok, if you press the ASC botton for a few seconds, a little symbol will appear on the LCD screen (the letter 'S' with a circle around it).
This indicates 'Sport Mode', allowing some wheel spin and wheelies.

Then if you press it again you can turn the ASC of completely.

All this can be done whilst riding at any speed.

 

[snerkler]

Ok, if you press the ASC botton for a few seconds, a little symbol will appear on the LCD screen (the letter 'S' with a circle around it).
This indicates 'Sport Mode', allowing some wheel spin and wheelies.

Then if you press it again you can turn the ASC of completely.

All this can be done whilst riding at any speed.

Thanks

 

[bbbvito]

Much as possible

 

[bbbvito]

Go for as much as you can afford do don't have to use it !

Off road tyres are no good for road use that's why they are called off road

 

[Georgeeboi]

Just thought I'd give you an update,I decided to for a gs triple black instead of GSA as stated earlier less weight and don't need big tank, i had to have a test ride on the mulistrada as i have a ducati already and found it an amazing bike so much power and light and nimble the clocks were smart and i thought i will have this instead of the GS, then driving home from the test ride im thinking i wasnt as comfortable as the gs the finish on the gs was better and do i really want to tear around like a lunatic anymore, money wise the gs is slightley better value as they are doing the £1000 contribution and i got a set of varios thrown in, my only reservation is the value after three years because of the change of model ( engine) next year will i get stuffed when i go to px next time? The multistrada only been out two years so wont change except the odd tweak, also when I popped into the BMW dealers I saw the gs rallye there in the flesh and it looks so much better than the pictures that I changed my mind from the triple black, just your thought on the current gs residuals when the water cooled comes out.

 

[Nutty]

If you're worried about residuals, wait for the 1250. It'll be out in September I reckon.

 

[snerkler]

Just thought I'd give you an update,I decided to for a gs triple black instead of GSA as stated earlier less weight and don't need big tank, i had to have a test ride on the mulistrada as i have a ducati already and found it an amazing bike so much power and light and nimble the clocks were smart and i thought i will have this instead of the GS, then driving home from the test ride im thinking i wasnt as comfortable as the gs the finish on the gs was better and do i really want to tear around like a lunatic anymore, money wise the gs is slightley better value as they are doing the £1000 contribution and i got a set of varios thrown in, my only reservation is the value after three years because of the change of model ( engine) next year will i get stuffed when i go to px next time? The multistrada only been out two years so wont change except the odd tweak, also when I popped into the BMW dealers I saw the gs rallye there in the flesh and it looks so much better than the pictures that I changed my mind from the triple black, just your thought on the current gs residuals when the water cooled comes out.

99+% of all bikes and cars will lose money, never more so than when bought new. BMW's generally have better residual value than other bikes, but you'll still lose several grand depending on how long you keep it.
When new models come out generally speaking the old model decreases in value, but by how much who can say. My guess is that it won't be too bad as you'll see if you've spent any time on here, a lot of GS owners don't like change and would rather stick with a trusty older model
Maybe the 1150 owners will buy 1200's when the 1250's come out and start harping on about how much better the 1200 is than the 1250

 

[snerkler]

If you're worried about residuals, wait for the 1250. It'll be out in September I reckon.

Not according to MCN, if you believe a word they say. They say production will start 2013 at the earliest

 

[Nutty]

Not according to MCN, if you believe a word they say. They say production will start 2013 at the earliest

I was under the impression that it will be a 2013 model year, which normally gets released after September in the current year. What I do know is that the dealers are keeping quiet about the launch date. I want to order one, but won't until they can tell me when it will be released.

 

[Georgeeboi]

If it is sept I would wait, it must be close because BMW are doing all these ltd editions and incentives to buy current models.

 

[Nutty]

If it is sept I would wait, it must be close because BMW are doing all these ltd editions and incentives to buy current models.

Trouble is, no one will give you a straight answer.

 

[snerkler]

I was under the impression that it will be a 2013 model year, which normally gets released after September in the current year. What I do know is that the dealers are keeping quiet about the launch date.

I think it will be a case of dealers not knowing as BMW won't have informed them rather than it being a case of keeping it quiet.

I want to order one, but won't until they can tell me when it will be released.

You're brave wanting to order a bike you've not test ridden, and on top of that it's a brand new model and won't have had the teething troubles ironed out

 

[autogs]

ive said this before somewhere else but,why does everyone assume the 1200 wont continue when the 1250 comes out.the new model will prob command a premium price so why not run both for a while?

 

[cookie]

ive said this before somewhere else but,why does everyone assume the 1200 wont continue when the 1250 comes out.the new model will prob command a premium price so why not run both for a while?

did the older models overlap, or was it just using up old stock?

 

[autogs]

no i dont think the older ones did really tbh,but i sense a big price ticket on the 1250,plus on the new model is there room for an adv size tank?looks like the rads will have that space