Beacons 2 Day RALLY Big Trail Bike

Everything was going quite well until the last special - that was a bit tough I fell twice and struggled along the top (nasty) ruts. Stuart made it right the way throughon a KTM 990 without falling so I reckon he got a reasonable time on that section.

Let us know how you all got on - as the weather was a tad wet at the end and every cleared up and cleared off home.
 
Let us know how you all got on -

Saturday went ok, but Sunday dropped the bike on the 1st test and then trying to make some time up after the bike not starting that well I over shot one of the faster bends and fell off again :augie Second test I wore away the soles of my boots paddling up that rutted section by the fence :blast



This was my first rally (not done any form of competition for 5 years) I thought the course was great, fast and flowing with a mix of trickier bits great for the bigger bikes there was alot less forestry roads than I'd expected which was a good thing :thumb2

Things that I'd like there to have been-

The tests were miles too short, I think we only raced for around 20 min the whole weekend, would have been great to have had two 15 min tests per lap :nenau

Like I said the couse was very good at around 38miles :thumb2 but we only did 2 laps per day :nenau It should have been a minimum of 3 laps per day


But as Ian, Mark and myself treated it as a jolly and rode around together we had great fun :thumb

Mark being a hero (or half a hero as it turned out later! ) rode up from London getting there around 11pm on Friday

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Next morning we signed on and numbers were put on the bikes (can't speak for the others but I was a bit nervous )

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Mark had a small problem with his gear lever and while waiting for him on one of the liaison sections I snapped a pic of Eathmover :clap and Mark

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Ian and Mark chilling out after Saturday's ride

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The bikes looked a bit dirtier than in the morning :augie

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Sunday was going to be a bit damp Mark looked keen waiting at the 1st test (its the only time we had to queue all day)

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Ian waiting at the 1st test

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We all finshed in good timeThanks boys for your company at the weekend :beerjug:

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We met Rob who was riding a KTM950SE after spending Saturday night with us he proved to have a similar attitude and sense of humour to us and fitted in well. Sunday he rode the last lap with us an showed me how fast those 950 KTM's are :thumb (I'm sure we'll be meeting up with Rob again for a trail ride in Wales)

Rob next to Mark's bike, not sure I could ride in that footwear

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"Mark being half a hero" As it turned out Rob lived within 10 miles of Mark and offered to give Mark a lift home :thumb2

Mark soon had the KTM headlight off to get the bike in the van ;)

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Louis
 
it was a tad greasy !!! but still a great coarse hope ben popes wrist is ok credit to all big bike riders
 
Let us know how you all got on - as the weather was a tad wet at the end and every cleared up and cleared off home.

Not to bad 3rd overall after feeling like i had a rubbish ride Saturday. Sunday was a lot better ride for me although i had a small off in the last test.
 
We had a great weekend :D


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I had a puncture about 12 kilometres into the 2nd lap by the time i had put a new tube in the marshals turned up clearing there course so that was me out :( but Dave got his pigaso round to finish the first day, Nice one mate :bounce1 :clap

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On day two was a bit wet but it wouldn't be wales without a bit of the wet stuff :thumb I got to both laps, really enjoyed SS1 but found SS2 quite hard especially the ruts. Dave's bike started to over heat so he went out about 3/4 of the way round his first lap :(

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The Greyhound was ? an experience :mmmm

We camped next to moly, sorry if big mark kept you awake with his snoring :augie he certainly kept us awake :mad: then he started cooking sausages at 6 in the morning :confused:

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Said Hello to louisdut just as his mate turned up on the 990, very hard core :thumb
(One of your mates i think ?)
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And BurtieBoy introduced himself whilst i was replacing the emergency tube with a heavy duty Jobie back at the pit at the end of day one :thumb2 thanks for the info regarding the rim lock and you were gone by the time we left on Sunday other wise i would of come over to say bye had you still been there ;)

Also i would like to say thanks to the chap on the KTM 640 ADV for lending me a 10mm socket when i had my puncture and well done to Tim Whittle on the Aprillia Caponord for getting that beast round :clap:clap:clap

See you all at the Cambrian :thumb
 
Ummm - I need to ride them ruts better next time. I was fourth in class after day one - so I reallly messed it up onthe last special - even Stuie beat me with all that curry inside him ;-)

Good to be on the score sheet though - feel like a real Rally person again ;-)
 
No pictures, so lots of words!

Our little group (nos. 69 to 74, Me, Les, Andy, Speedy, Carl and Kev.) were assembled far too early on Saturday morning. Could have had an extra hour in bed! At least we had chance to sit around and shoot the breeze for a while as we waited for our 11.35 start time. My 640 was first away, followed by the gaggle of 450's, with only Carl's WR250 breaking up the sea of orange.
The short run to the first check was enlivened by Kev getting stuck in the mudhole and his bike refusing to restart! The first test was an interesting mix of surfaces, but the parallel ruts along the fenceline looked the worst. Dropping down the hill to the fire road I could hear Andy behind me, and as convention dictates, we raced for the line, even though it wasn't timed. A depression in the road fully compressed my suspension, then bounced me nearly off the bike, but I managed to stay on. Must remember that one for later!
From the test, the track gradualy narrowed until we were riding in a green tunnel, on a clay like surface which was the slippiest stuff I've ridden for some time. Opting to paddle through this was tiring, but at least kept you vertical.
The second test was another interesting mix, having a very well worn section of whoops, a decreasing radius fire road corner (bugger!) a stretch of triple ruts and a boggy bit to contend with. Commited to memory, we rode on to finish the lap with a fantastic stretch of flowing fire roads back to the paddock. I nearly overshot one right hander as I was distracted by the bloke and his little kid, playing on the outside of the bend. Not the most sensible place to be!
Regrouped, changed into race shirts instead of jackets, and ready for the second lap. Into the test I found that the ruts had widened enough to allow a more comfortable run down, I managed to get behind Carl on the last descent. He waved me past, and I remembered the compression. Not an outstanding run, but not disasterous. Carl shook his head at the end. I don't think he's seen the 640 on full chat before!
On with the lap, and the weekend takes a bit of a downer. Les, riding with a flat front tyre, goes down hard. We were further up the track at a clearing waiting for him to catch up. When he didn't appear we flagged the next bike down, to be told that there was an injured rider a few minutes back. I walked down to where he was, relieved to find he was sat up, but concerned that he was in some discomfort. There was another rider who had stayed with him, and I didn't get his name, so thank you if you are reading this! The marshall's organised for the ambulance to pick Les up, so I rode his bike back to where Andy was waiting, taking his van keys with me for later. We pushed the KTM into the bushes at the side of the track where it could be collected at the end of the day.
At the start of the second test, Andy rode to the lights in front of two later numbers, and took off. They looked a bit put out, so I shouted "I won't hold you up!"
"Not if we go first", one of them answered. Not what I meant, but for arguments sake I let them go. The second one I passed just into the triple ruts, after having a huge moment which I thought would end my day. The first one had my front tyre up his arse through the lights, so I figure I rode that one as hard as I could.
We pressed on to the end of the lap, so that we could sort out retrieving Les's bike from the forest. Andy followed a marshall for as far as he could in Les's van, then rode pillion through the narrower bits to the clearing. An "interesting" ride is how he described it later!
Denise and I hung around and drank tea awaiting his return. The St John's Landrover came back in, so we collected some of Les's gear out of the back. Helmet, one jacket sleeve, one arm of his body armour, one glove. The nice lady then scared the crap out of me by saying that Les had been taken to Swansea by air-ambulance, then quickly pointing out this was done for convenience rather than severity of injury when she saw my reaction. When Andy returns, I point out to him that I rang the injured party's wife last time (his!) so now it's his turn.
After a shower and a couple of beers we wandered into town in search of sustenance. This we found at the same pub we found it at last year, the name of which I can't remember. I can show you where it is though. Plenty of good food fuelled us up nicely for tomorrow, and we strolled back in the company of Louisdut and friends. Another beer or two as a nightcap, and we hit the tents/trailer/van at a reasonable hour.
Sunday morning, 6.30, and after a restless night I walked to the toilets. On my return I met Andy, who asked if I noticed anything missing. A quick scan round our camp, and suddenly I realise. Les's van and trailer aren't there! Thinking that they have been stolen, I am spitting expletives, until Andy points out that Les himself has took them. Now I am confused, isn't Les the guy we left in the hospital with a suspected broken left humerus? How the? What the?
My head hurts.
Turns out that after putting his arm in plaster, they then decided to x-ray. This shows no break, but dislocated. They then discharge him. At midnight.
All our phones came up with no answer, so he rang his wife, who drove from Middlewich to Swansea, then from Swansea up to llandovery. All Les's clothes are in his van, so at 5.00am a bloke in a hospital gown and motocross boots was seen prowling round the rugby club, looking for us. Some people may never recover from this sight.
Back to the racing, and the morning is overcast, so jackets back on. The course is to be the reverse of yesterday, and remembering what the going was like for the first section, I let the bike have its head. Every corner comes off nicely, steady in, throttle out, back end drifting just enough. Why can't I do this all the time?
"On it this morning are we?" Grins Andy as we wait at the road for the others to catch up. Following the track to the first test (which is now the second test backwards), we are just in time to see the Aprilla Caponord set off for his untimed lap. At my turn, I am suprised to find Andy at the side of the boggy bit, wiping copious quantities of mud off himself. The rut he had chosen went too close to a fallen tree, and a root had taken the bike from under him! The Aprilla was having a lie down a little further up the hill. As this wasn't timed I stopped to help him pick it up and get going again. Something of a heavy beast that is!
At the end of the test, waterproofs started to come off, people were warming up. This was the cue for the drizzle to start, drizzle which steadily intensified all day!
As we got nearer to the second test (first yesterday, do keep up) the green tunnel with the slippery surface had got slippier. A freshly greased ice-rink spings to mind. I was following a young lady on a 250EXC, Jenny Wright, which is always a nicer experience than following a bloke, as the rear view is more aesthetically pleasing.
Anyway, I took my eyes off her for a second to avoid a branch, and she disappeared!
I put my bike on the sidestand to help her up, and found I could hardly stand myself! Her husband turned up a few seconds later, after the bike was righted, cunning move that.
At the test start, the marshall who took Andy to collect Les's bike explained where the timing lights were, so that no-one tried a death defying lunge at the end. Riding it in reverse, the parallel ruts were now uphill, and wet. This was not fun, grip was scarce, and directional control difficult. I had just got past paddling speed, but not quite up to gyroscopic straight line speed when the bike decided to change ruts. This was unfortunate, as I personally was commited to the rut we were already in. I lost the subsequent battle of wills, and the whole plot went into the ferns, horizontally. Arse.
Eventually I got down to the end, but this did not bode well for a good time next lap.
After a reviving brew at the pits, we set off on the second lap. I let Andy go first on the fire road this time, and stayed just out of roost range as we performed synchronised drifts round the bends.
Up to the first test, and I tell myself to miss Andy's rut. I don't, and end up nearly jumping off to avoid the roots. Halfway through and there's a Honda in the left hand rut. as I pull alongside, he moves right, unintentionally, but I can't avoid clouting his elbow with mine. Manage to stay on and chase after Kev. Get a couple of the bends spot on, but mess up the climb to the finish, leaving me a couple of seconds behind him. Good enough.
As the rain continues to fall, we wind our way around the course. In the green tunnel, Speedy wipes his clutch lever off on a tree and sets about replacing it. I get to the test start just after Carl. He lets me back in front of him, and warns me that the rider currently at the lights is taking it easy, and I should wait a while. I figure that if I go now and pass him before the first uphill, then I will have a clearer run. This nearly works, though in my haste I overshoot one of the bends and lose a few yards. I have to wait until the track splits to overtake, but no matter. At the mudhole before the parallel ruts, there is a Honda sideways across the track, struggling to get traction. The same one! There is a gap behind his back wheel and I slot the bike through it and set off up the ruts. This time both bike and I have the same idea, and get through at a reasonable rate of knots.
The last climb up to the pits provides a sting in the tail, as I lose grip halfway up, and have to slip and slide my way back down to get another run. I claw my way to the top, and the bike starts spitting and coughing. Whatever it is, I nurse it back to the pits, where we are all tired, but happy.
An excellent event, thourougly enjoyed.
Thanks to all at WTRA, and on behalf of Les, a huge thanks to the St John's and the Air-ambulance!

Mark
 
bri dont i score points for rydale??????????????????????????
 
Great photos and a great write up.

Here's some more words from me - just wish we had taken a picture of Jonnys head.

Beacons Rally Report

Day 1.
After a night on the town drinking with Brian Eland and eating the entire remaining contents of the local chip shop we headed off to the start area about 15 miles north of Llandovery.
First stop was scrutineering, where I found I had fitted my suspension linkage on wrong and had to rapidly fix it with Stuart's help (along with a hammer). Back to the queue and it passed - so on to signing up - I was number 9, Stuart 12 and Jonny 20.

We made the start line and headed off together on the first lap. The course was a mix of fire roads, cross country trails and tracks through the woods. The first special came up quickly and was an immediate steep climb which at the top turned left onto a nasty muddy rut (this played a major role on day 2), more fire roads followed by a narrow descent through the woods and out onto the final run to the finish which was a fire road with a hidden dip, which at speed launched you airbourne.

After the special we headed of on a wide fire road for almost a mile until we hit a muddy track which was hard going and this was going to tire some of the riders as they struggled to get grip, and steering became a problem. Jonny had a little moment here and the BMW was nearly thrown into the ravine - but he perserved and popped out onto the fire road just behind Stuart and I.

After a nice mix of fast flowing fire roads and cut throughs in the forest we ended up at the second special. Wait for the light to go green and off we go. We descended down a rocky slope and which had drop offs, hard packed rock surfaces and ruts all the way down to the fire road. Onto the fire road we keep a good pace and the organisers had put a nasty little chicane in to slow the fire road section down (We were headeding down there at sixty plus !!) Then off onto a track downhill with whoops and bumps built into the terrain - another fast uphill fire road then into a rutted section for about 200 yards and then down a muddy rutted descent to the finish.

We re-grouped at the bottom and all swapped bikes, Stuart rode the BMW as it was having clutch problems and I think by this stage we had already bolted the exhaust back on. Jonny rode my 640 and I had a bash on 990 KTM, which we all agreed was like riding a "magic carpet" on the fire roads as you just whizzed along at 70mph as easy as you like.

At the stop we had a cup of tea, refuelled and headed off for the second lap - this time the specials would be timed. Everything went according to plan and I was 4th in class at the end of day 1 and Stuart was 8th.

But all this was to change.

We showered and headed into town for a good curry.

Day 2
Jonny had decided the clutch was too far gone to thrash the BMW "Pit Bull" for another day so he volunteered to stay in the pits and make tea etc etc.

Stu and I headed off, the course was running in the opposite direction so we had the same sections as day 1, but in reverse. We completed a lap in the drizzle and rain and headed back to the pits for a cup of tea. We were met by Jonny wearing my woolly hat and then he said do you want to see something funny. Jonny had managed to get the most severve injury of the wekend by smashing his head on the door in the camper wagon whilst making tea. He had gone to the ambulance and they promptly sat him down and bandaged his head so it looked like a turban - it looked great - especially the tuft of hair sticking out of the centre.

Stu and I headed off still laughing and hit the second lap. In the first timed section I managed to catch Stu who had smashed his left leg into a tree stump and lost a bit of time. After following Stu for a while, he then let me overtake on the fire road so I could get a good time. Feeling chuffed I thought I was on a winner. The next section I headed of first, it was raining hard and I did most of the section well but the "Muddy Rut" got me twice and I lost loads of time. Stuart rode a superb special - conquered the said "Muddy Rut" and beat me by a good 30 secs overall on the day.

We headed back to the pits in the rain and packed up sharpish and headed home.

Stuart was 8th in class and I was 10th.

Wait until the next one, the gloves are off.
 
no you where outside the top 40 overall and it's only the top 40 score points:pullface


Hows that fair then Brian there were only 20 odd guys on 650cc + bikes and over a 150 on Sports bikes the odds of finishing in the overall top 40 aren't great :nenau
 
Hows that fair then Brian there were only 20 odd guys on 650cc + bikes and over a 150 on Sports bikes the odds of finishing in the overall top 40 aren't great :nenau

The championship is not designed for bikes over 650cc and you have to remember the over 650cc bikes is not the smallest representation in the entry. I have tried to take into account all classes and make it worthwhile pushing to get better finish ..........


bollocks to it i dont need to explain to you on here.
i'm running a championship i'm sponsoring it, i have deviced a scoring system that is working it's easy to implement. remember this is the only championship running. i don't give awards for bikes over 650cc or 577cc because in the world of international rallies there are no awards for these classes. if you want a award given for the 650cc+ class why don't you sponsor it.
 
The championship is not designed for bikes over 650cc and you have to remember the over 650cc bikes is not the smallest representation in the entry. I have tried to take into account all classes and make it worthwhile pushing to get better finish ..........


bollocks to it i dont need to explain to you on here.
i'm running a championship i'm sponsoring it, i have deviced a scoring system that is working it's easy to implement. remember this is the only championship running. i don't give awards for bikes over 650cc or 577cc because in the world of international rallies there are no awards for these classes. if you want a award given for the 650cc+ class why don't you sponsor it.

:thedummy Its my Championship :tears

Chill out Brian for FFS I couldn't give a toss how you run it :D

You might be a bit of a legend on a bike but your people skills need a bit of work :pullface

Here you go I'll donate this being as you spat yours out:D
 

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OK Bri,
So if we run a Big Bike Challenge, it won't detract form your Championship - as the big bikes will have automatic entry and if they do OK - they do OK.

We will look to sort out the big bike challenge for 575cc bike upwards.

This will give us Big Bike guys a bit of fun and may even entice more big bikes into events.
 
:thedummy Its my Championship :tears

Chill out Brian for FFS I couldn't give a toss how you run it :D

You might be a bit of a legend on a bike but your people skills need a bit of work :pullface

Here you go I'll donate this being as you spat yours out:D

I don't want to encourage your average rider to ride a bike over 575cc i want to encourage them to ride the events whatever bike.

with previuos championships i've been involved in you didn't even have to turn up at a event to score points.

I've never advertised the championship to cater for the big bikes
 
I don't want to encourage your average rider to ride a bike over 575cc i want to encourage them to ride the events whatever bike.

with previuos championships i've been involved in you didn't even have to turn up at a event to score points.

I've never advertised the championship to cater for the big bikes

Brian

I know how passionate your are about the off road scene and fair play for organizing the Championship I hope its a great success...:clap

See you at the Cambrian :thumb2
 


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