I'm sure the also stopped off at their nearest dealers to complain about the engine corrosion etc
Beware, your WC GSA is VERY easy to steal.....
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I'm sure the also stopped off at their nearest dealers to complain about the engine corrosion etc
Street_flat_twin
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Ok can we skip over the who's to blame/who's responsible and get back to the main concern (to me at least) how did the wee feckers hot-wire a keyless GS to allow it to be ridden away??
In 11 pages am I the only one slightly concerned about that?
In 11 pages am I the only one slightly concerned about that?
My guess is that they learned a trick to hot-wire GSs and used that.
Just a guess.
Just a guess.
well if someone does know ffs do not be stupid enough to post the details on a public forum
dubster
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Even the latest keyless systems are easy to work around with the right knowledge/toys... won't post on here, try google
yankeedoodledandy
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He might have had some sort of unlocked ECU or starter relay that he plugged into the wiring harness. A little practice and no concern about damaging the seat/cover and that might be quickly accomplished. It may also be possible that he plugged something into the diagnostic port that enabled ignition.
Try post number 7 on the first page.
Good grief, 11 pages.
You're right, a surprising heated discussion when all that really is at issue is whether or not a biker should take some sensible precautions to secure their bike ..... or rely on the seemingly easily defeated steering lock!
(Crash helmet on....ready for explosion....) - so...what's the current recommendation for 'on the move' chain rather than one at home - one thing that'll go in the top box. I know there's lots of choice etc etc....just looking for some options that people would recommend.
Glad I no longer commute to the big shitty.....
Glad I no longer commute to the big shitty.....
Disc lock to prevent the break the steering lock and wheel away merchants... Anything else is still pot luck if it works against the determined.
Rather a chain - not keen on disc lock and want to anchor it to something....
It doesn't matter a shite what the 'current recommendations' are.
Just choose one that matches your requirements regarding price and size/weight.
Ideally one that's Thatcham or Sold Secure rated.
Go on...venture forth...look and choose.
Why would they be different? Why not use the same chain for both purposes? The bike is carrying the weight, not you.
I've owned and used (among other devices) an Abus Extreme chain & Granit "Insurance" padlock on my last three bikes (post-FJ-theft
). It's pretty heavy and feels very solid, and is (AFAIR) both Sold Secure & Thatcham approved. But I'm already working toward adding an Almax Series IV to my arsenal.
It's about how you want to live your life, a disc lock is small and can be fitted in two ticks - not that much of a hassle when you already have the bike keys in your hand.
A chain and the desire to attach to something solid means a whole new set of logistics and actions are being forced upon you because of what some scoot might do - That's not for me
And if I had keyless, having to find keys for anykind of lock defeats the original 'it's about you' idea that keyless brings.
I should say I have a u lock under my seat and a cable lock in a bag on the back seat... If I find myself having to park in a dubious place then it's there for me to use. It's been about a year since I've used the u lock, the cable lock gets used if I want to leave my bike gear attached (normally in covered car parks when going to meetings)
The issue in London is hat most motorcycle bays have nothing solid to chain your bike to. According to Met Police figures in 2014 (the latest I can find) over 9,500 bikes were stolen in London, with a large percentage of them in central London boroughs. The combination of ground anchors and bikers bringing a solid chain through the rear axle or frame would probably cut this figure massively. If you have a GS or GSA and you park in central London consider it the number one target for thieves as its high value and popular (means easy money for spare or for steal to order abroad). I walk past a number of bays travelling between sites in central London and have seen half a dozen GSes. Not one even has a disc lock. Madness!
Chain through the chain of the bike next to you if you must
I did that once and came back to a rather angry man who had been stood there for an hour because I'd locked his bike up, he was even more upset when I pointed out how thick he was.
There was a movement about that many years ago with plenty of advertising and publicity. It just didn't catch on. JJH
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Sorry for the OP's loss, its a horrible feeling insured or not.
Call me cynical...but is it really in a manufacturer's interest to make a vehicle secure......
For a new bike that will probably be broken into bits or shipped outside the country.....the consumer will then procure another new bike and another sale....a perverse reality.
However..if you make the vehicle too hard to steal the thieves just target the owner with the key. Seems to me its better all round if vehicles are not too hard to steal.
My guess is he plugged something into the ODB2 port. Would be interested to know if it's on that side.
Call me cynical...but is it really in a manufacturer's interest to make a vehicle secure......
For a new bike that will probably be broken into bits or shipped outside the country.....the consumer will then procure another new bike and another sale....a perverse reality.
However..if you make the vehicle too hard to steal the thieves just target the owner with the key. Seems to me its better all round if vehicles are not too hard to steal.
My guess is he plugged something into the ODB2 port. Would be interested to know if it's on that side.
