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Neil W

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Always wary of cheap Internet based insurance brokerage firms , when in the job stopped a Transit showing as no Insurance , driver non plussed as he had insurance details on his phone including all relevant E Mails but there was nothing recorded on MIB.

He had taken the Insurance out a month previously paying up front for the first 2 months on his card and then set up a direct debit for the rest of the premium .

He had received no further communication , however , the broker had never collected the direct debit (or whatever they do at their end )and the actual insurance provider had cancelled the policy after 4 weeks despite the first 8 weeks having been paid . Did not seize the van but let him set up insurance at the roadside (he was still reported ).

On investigating further I could not contact the Insurance Broker either online or by telephone and even the MIB / Police direct contact numbers drew a blank , they did tell me that the broker had changed it's name a few weeks before (it had also done similar 6 or 8 months earlier) .

Trying to contact them on their new listed Police contact number was as bust as was contacting them by e mail , in the end I rang the new policy line and got an immediate answer and then had a go at them .

They were reported to both the MIB and the Financial Services Ombudsman and then I spoke to the actual Insurance Underwriter who agreed to provide a letter to the van owner that he would have been covered for the time he was stopped as long as there was no claim involved .

It mean he kept his clean license but a lesson was learned , I still reckon the broker had never paid any monies over to the insurer but they were not going to admit that

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Moved from a thread about Travel insurance.

Richard
 
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That’s scary. In day driving does anyone think to ask their company if they are insured? I know it happened to me 1980. I was a dock runner on a cg125 owned by the company. Got stopped and had to produce documents. NO INSURANCE. Company sorted it out. I always check now. JJH
 
We have a problem here with ghost brokers. Ireland. Don’t know if you have heard of it in UK? JJH
 
We have a problem here with ghost brokers. Ireland. Don’t know if you have heard of it in UK? JJH

a quick google shows mentions by the UK regulator and City of London police

anyone in the UK can check their own vehicle on the MIB database mention above at https://www.askmid.com/

I always check on making a change to my policy and after renewal each year.

Lastly, as with any major purchase, make it by credit card as if the premium is over £100, you have an extra layer of cover against fraud from the bank.
 
a quick google shows mentions by the UK regulator and City of London police

anyone in the UK can check their own vehicle on the MIB database mention above at https://www.askmid.com/

I always check on making a change to my policy and after renewal each year.

Lastly, as with any major purchase, make it by credit card as if the premium is over £100, you have an extra layer of cover against fraud from the bank.
That is brilliant. Don’t think it’s available here. JJH
 
I always check the online Motor Insurance Database a couple of weels after setting up or renewing a policy, just to see if the underwriter/broker has logged the details. Over the last few years it always has been, but a worthwhile exercise. I told a mate who checked his and found it had not been done so contacted the insurer to demand a refund of their set up fees which they say include the MID work. They refused until he reminded them of this obligation and the steps he would take, leading an offer to make an "ex-gratia" payment of goodwill so to speak. Losing faith he junked them at renewal.
 
Every day is a school day....... Scamming bastards !

Thanks for the knowledge.
 
There should be a government website like there is for checking your TAX and MOT.
we could self check then.

Its not fair to penalise the driver when he thinks he is insured and behind the scenes his chosen insurance are muppets.
 
There should be a government website like there is for checking your TAX and MOT.
we could self check then.

Its not fair to penalise the driver when he thinks he is insured and behind the scenes his chosen insurance are muppets.
See post #4 ? There's a link that takes you to the same place @Paul G (BHT) has just posted above.
 
Fair enough that's good.
I had tried in the past to do this but ended up at websites that charged to find out.


Good to know thanks (y)

My insurance on the car is next April but service and MOT this Friday!
So will be commuting to work on the GS on Friday yay
 
There is or was a problem with the MIB database when I was in the job and it was that very often trade policies either did not appear on the PNC when checks were made at the roadside
 
In a land far away, 3rd party insurance is the only mandatory insurance you need. You need this insurance BEFORE you can get your car taxed.
You actually need the MOT (sent to the DVLA by the MOT garage electronically), you need 3rd party insurance (also sent to the DVLA by the insurer) before the DVLA will even tax your car. So that is the first way no-one drives uninsured.

The second way is the 3rd party insurance is tied to the car. If I buy 3rd party insurance this year for my car and sell my car to someone, that insurance goes with the car to the new owner. Again it is all automated as long as you notify the DVLA of the change in ownership, the insurer will then send the new owner (details that DVLA have on record) the 3rd party insurance information. If for some reason they are a high risk person (young driver etc) the new owner may pay a small, pro-rata fee BUT the car is always insured no matter what.

As the 3rd party insurance is government mandate and they oversee it but let private insurers manage it, the price the insurer can charge is also restricted, unlike here.
 


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