Bike on a train help

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Some help please. We are looking at going down to Austria next year and am looking at riding down but to try to cut some of the riding back was looking at coming back on a overnight train with the bike. It looks like i can do it from Innsbrook to either Dusseldorf or Hamberg. Has anyone done it before and is there any other options im missing?
 
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I’ve been doing some research of my own around this and from what I can see avoid Urulabs Express. The reviews on it are interesting and describe the accommodation as very poor.
So I was looking at the nightjet ones above
 
I hope it has improved!
Did it a few years back. We bought a return ticket, but ended up not using the return, we disliked the outbound trip so much! Cramped cabins, no catering (a vending machine), barely slept - we preferred just to ride home after the trip (we went on to Croatia) and with so many great roads in Germany, it can be a shame to miss the ride.
I was impressed how they managed the motorcycles, and strapped them down. There were probably 40+ bikes on the motorcycle carrying rail stock! I had my K1200RS then...
I hope it has improved!
 
As of tonight I don't see OBB Nightjet offering any train+car services outside Austria. Maybe something will be announced in the Spring.

The Urlaubs Express trains are stone-cold basic using knackered German rolling stock - as evidenced by some reviews. The idea is that you take something to help you sleep and hope you don't wake till the morning. Even the Nightjet accomodation is not that much more luxurious. Nonetheless I am seriously considering this for Dusseldorf - Villach next year.

The best train I used was the now defunct Capernium - Den Bosch route.
 
I did the Den Bosch to Livorno with Autoslaap a couple of times. Accommodation was good and food excellent, but the loading was terrifying with no head room as you rode onto the carriage which was obviously designed solely for cars.
 
We took an overnight train from s-Hertogenbosch to somewhere in northern Italy quite a few years ago now. It was advertised as the luxury way to travel and take the hassle out of having to drive. Initially our enthusiasm overcame the surprise at how old and dilapidated the rolling stock was. The toilet at the end of the carriage was a circular tin affair which opened directly onto the track, and the beds were bunks which lifted out from the cabin wall and hooked into slots to keep them up. And they were four high !

Every time we crossed a border there was a delay of various numbers of hours while the train company from the next country hooked up one of their own engines to continue the journey. The ‘luxury on board evening meal’ in the restaurant carriage didn’t occurr because the cookers wouldn’t fire up, so the staff (all Uni students on mid term breaks) just plonked a few cases of beer on the table and we got pissed and ate peanuts instead. I wasn’t shocked to find on our return that the company, Euroslaaptrein or some such, had gone bust and couldn’t refund a duplicate payment they’d taken.

Still, on the upside we did manage to pilfer a slack handful of really useful small webbing loops, which I still use to tie the bike down now.
 
Unless taking the motorail with your bike is an ‘at all costs’ item on your bucket list don’t do it.
I hated it, from the feeling of being nearly decapitated during loading, sleeping on the slope many metres from the ground, shitting into a latrine that even builders would reject as unclean.

On unloading my mates bike fell over but we did not see as we were ahead & the staff would not help . Other unknown bikers rescued him.

Oh & it’s really fucking expensive.
 
Couple of mates decided to do Dusseldorf to Munich a few years back as it would be easier to get to Austria and it was on one of their always wanted to do list , short ride to Dusseldorf from Zeebrugge and waiting around for hours for the train ,cramped cabin with pissed up Germans everywhere meant zero sleep and having to stay a day and night in Munich to recover before riding the final 150 miles in Austria . Same on the way back and they vowed NEVER AGAIN . Took 2 1/2 days to do what they could have ridden in 1 1/2
 
We took an overnight train from s-Hertogenbosch to somewhere in northern Italy quite a few years ago now. It was advertised as the luxury way to travel and take the hassle out of having to drive. Initially our enthusiasm overcame the surprise at how old and dilapidated the rolling stock was. The toilet at the end of the carriage was a circular tin affair which opened directly onto the track, and the beds were bunks which lifted out from the cabin wall and hooked into slots to keep them up. And they were four high !

Every time we crossed a border there was a delay of various numbers of hours while the train company from the next country hooked up one of their own engines to continue the journey. The ‘luxury on board evening meal’ in the restaurant carriage didn’t occurr because the cookers wouldn’t fire up, so the staff (all Uni students on mid term breaks) just plonked a few cases of beer on the table and we got pissed and ate peanuts instead. I wasn’t shocked to find on our return that the company, Euroslaaptrein or some such, had gone bust and couldn’t refund a duplicate payment they’d taken.

Still, on the upside we did manage to pilfer a slack handful of really useful small webbing loops, which I still use to tie the bike down now.
We’d made a booking and were notified just before the trip that the Autoslaap was in difficulties, or to put it succinctly, the elderly owner had thrown a hissy fit and closed the company down.
The firm that we made the booking through were trying to find alternatives and offering future returns, but I called it quits and spoke to the credit card company who gave a full refund.
From what I understand there were only partial refunds given at a later date.
 
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Couple of mates decided to do Dusseldorf to Munich a few years back as it would be easier to get to Austria and it was on one of their always wanted to do list , short ride to Dusseldorf from Zeebrugge and waiting around for hours for the train ,cramped cabin with pissed up Germans everywhere meant zero sleep and having to stay a day and night in Munich to recover before riding the final 150 miles in Austria . Same on the way back and they vowed NEVER AGAIN . Took 2 1/2 days to do what they could have ridden in 1 1/2

My limited experiences suggest to me that many Germans view travel where they’re not required to drive as an excuse to get absolutely shit faced. My wife and I decided to get the train from Berlin to Krakow on the 27th December then back to Berlin on the 1st. The train was rammed both ways with people drinking anything alcoholic they could get their hands on. I’ve also done a few overnight ferry trips with Germans and I don’t think they bother booking cabins, they just sit around tables drinking duty free spirits after the bar shuts.

I like my beer but I like my sleep equally as much and I’m more than happy for them to sit around a table on a lower deck drinking than do it in a cabin next to mine.
 


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