Bike Power Lead for 26xx/27xx - thoughts & input !

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Having solicited thoughts which lead to QPAC, we are inviting comments and thoughts from those 'pondering' a 26xx or 27xx and will need a bike Power & Audio cable.

Michael (Pan European) has already provided an insight to the new 27xx and the mount kits remain the same.

Unlike QPAC, this should be a simpler design, though we can use still use the QPAC box to sandwich between the RAM GA9 cradle and diamond base, so to give a neater install, otherwise two lead power and audio could go into s splitter/coupler and you'll need to tie wrap along the handlebar/frame. A splashproof fuseholder (not spring loaded) for bare wire option, and female audio jack (2.5mm or 3.5mm issue again!).

The cable end can also be finished with a fused 12V power plug, same as QPAC options. So harwire isntall, P plug for GS1150, GS1200/RT etc which will migrate to other bike makes.

Any thoughts or observations are invited over the next coming week.

RAM-man
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How about a lead that'll fit the BMW socket, and has the normal (3.5mm?) sound lead on it. BMW do leads, but they seem to be all for the NAV 2 with it's funny lead that fits into the mount. That way we'd be able to use the OEM fused circuits and keep the Powerlet style sockets for the heated clothing etc.

Does this make sense?
 
Guys, I don't know what a QPAC is, or any of those other things you are talking about, but I do know this: If you buy the Garmin power cable for the 26xx or 27xx that comes with the motorcycle mounting bracket, you get a power cable that is made out of a special type of rubber that is intended for installation on a moto. In other words, it is an outdoor cable, oil resistant, does not get stiff when it gets cold, that kind of stuff. If you just cut the cigar lighter end off of a 'generic' 26xx or 27xx power cable, you will have a power cable that is made out of a rubber or plastic material that was designed for indoor (or in-car) use.

I am not familiar with the cables that BMW sells for their unit (the Nav II), however, I would expect them to also be motorcycle specific in their design and material.

Michael
 
Like John Armstrong said, a power lead that fits the BMW socket would be good :)

Also, and you may be planning this anyway, but some people (like me!) don't bother with the audio from the GPSR, so a (presumably cheaper) plain power cable would be nice too :)

RAM-Man, if you want info on the BMW power socket, I can take a photo and / or measurments for you.
 
Hi Mouse,

Mouse .. if you want info on the BMW power socket, I can take a photo and / or measurments for you.
> Yes Please any clues welcomed :thumb

Mixing Mouse & John's comments .. a power lead that fits the BMW socket would be good ?. How about a lead that'll fit the BMW socket ?.
> If I understand correctly, then we will use same P plug that's fitted to QPAC or have I missed the point ?

similar to QPAC versions we can do bare wire or with P plug or John's point "we'd be able to use the OEM fused circuits " Mouse or John, can I have a pic so I understand the point being made.

RAM-man
 
My idea was a plug / socket that would attach directly into the bikes wiring, avoiding the need to plug into an accessory socket. Is that clearer?
 
John, it sounds like the BWM cradle on my 1200 for the Nav 2 is exactly what you need, it supplies power to the unit (same as a 26XX) without requiring any fiddling with the loom, you just slide the Garmin style multiplug wedge sideways into the back of the GPSR unit, then pop it into its mounting cradle. I saw the part number for these on an american online parts fiche for the GS range, if I can find it again I will post a link............


Here it is, try this site, if the link doesn't take you there directly, scroll down the fiche to Diag 65_1510 for the GPS (Navigation) leads. It should give you some idea though it isnt exactly crystal clear as two sets of leads are shown, one for the older Nav 1 unit and a set for the later Nav 2. A UK BWM dealer should know what you need from their own parts fiche.

http://ascycles.com/Illustrated_catalog/R1200GS(04-up)/catalog_frameset.html
 
John Armstrong said:
My idea was a plug / socket that would attach directly into the bikes wiring, avoiding the need to plug into an accessory socket. Is that clearer?
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That's what I thought you were getting at - and that's also the way I did things. I bought a power lead that had bare ends on it (the Garmin moto lead), then hardwired that onto the accessory bus of my motorcycle, protected with a 2 amp fuse. It's worked fine for several years now, and doesn't take up any other outlets. Plus, when you do a hardwire installation like this, you can tidy the cable run up with plastic cable ties so that it is quite inconspicious.

Just one caution - power will be present on the end that connects to the GPSR anytime your moto ignition is on. The flat blade pins on that end are exposed, and it is possible for them to contact a metal part of your moto, short out, and blow the fuse if you are not cautious. I use a Garmin bracket, which has a little thing molded into it to safely store the connector end of the cable when the GPSR has been removed from the bike. If you don't use a Garmin bracket, then give some thought to routing and attaching the plug end of the cable so that it can't easily come in contact with the metal frame of the bike when it is unplugged. That's not difficult to do, because you really only need a couple of inches of slack - just enough to slide the connector sideways out of the GPSR before you remove the GPSR from the bracket.

I recommend you connect the power to as 'automatically switched on with ignition' source, not a 'hot battery bus' source. If you have the ignition off, you generally don't want the GPSR to be on - it draws unwanted attention.

Michael
 
Sorry for confusion - I was referring to the dedicated GPS power socket fitted to the 1200GS (don't know if earlier models have it). The advantage of using this is that it's already protected (no need for a fuse) and it keeps the (higher current capacity) acessory socket free for other stuff.

RAM-man - I'll try and get you a picture of the socket, mine's all wrapped in tape at the moment holding the wires into it :)
 
Pukmeister said:
John, it sounds like the BWM cradle on my 1200 for the Nav 2 is exactly what you need, it supplies power to the unit (same as a 26XX) without requiring any fiddling with the loom, you just slide the Garmin style multiplug wedge sideways into the back of the GPSR unit, then pop it into its mounting cradle. I saw the part number for these on an american online parts fiche for the GS range, if I can find it again I will post a link............


Here it is, try this site, if the link doesn't take you there directly, scroll down the fiche to Diag 65_1510 for the GPS (Navigation) leads. It should give you some idea though it isnt exactly crystal clear as two sets of leads are shown, one for the older Nav 1 unit and a set for the later Nav 2. A UK BWM dealer should know what you need from their own parts fiche.

http://ascycles.com/Illustrated_catalog/R1200GS(04-up)/catalog_frameset.html
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There seems to be some debate on whether the 26xx will compatible with the Nav 2 holder. Plus, and it's a very big one, is the cost. Have you seen the price of the Nav 2 mount and lead? Around £300 for hte two I think? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:


Mr Pan,

Like you I use the Garmin supplied mount, does what it says on the tin to borrow a UK TV ad. I'll admit I don't know if the OEM lead is battery powered or ignition sourced. But even if it isn't it would tidy the leads up, otherwise I'll be looking to tap into an ignition switched circuit (horn) that won't affect the ABS sides of things.

John
 
The 2610 series is NOT compatible with the Nav 2 bracket, thats not what I am implying. I was suggesting that the electrical power cable from BWM would probably be compatible for supplying power to the unit, thats all.

The hardware of the Nav2 has been doctored to interface with the extra buttons on the bracket/cradle. The 2610 will not work with these buttons.

You can buy a Garmin cradle which looks identical to the holder portion of the Nav2 cradle but without buttons on it, and also buy the power leads.

http://www.adventure-motorcycling.co.uk/products/?product=169

http://www.adventure-motorcycling.co.uk/products/?product=175
 
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