BIKE ROLLED OFF SIDE STAND

[Giles]

Mr K and I need to get together and have a drink ...

Another thread where peepes are blaming the bike rather than there own failings

Don't get me wrong - I've had bikes roll of their stands on occasions, but the bottom line is ... I was a twat for parking it facing 'that way'.

You're in charge, gravity exists and shit happens (especially when you stop thinking). It's like the people I see who ride 'into' their parking space (which points slightly down hill) and then make some big deal grunting and groaning when they try and back pedal out of it

Another Gin Mr. K ...

 

[GrinningGSer]

Its great to be sanctimonious or is the word smug. Bikes rolling off stands are definitely a beginners mistake. I've been riding bikes for nearly 40 yrs and still make errors of judgement and attempt to keep learning but anyone sneering may be missing the point here. We do not always stop the bike in gear, pointing to the left, there are situations where we make LEARNED judgements that tell is that we can get away with something. In this WC bike, that judgement is clearly wrong. For sure, the stand is more of a liability and surely its worthwhile letting peeps know.

 

[Giles]

Ahhhh c'mon ......
Yes, of course we're all allowed rookie errors - god knows I've made bloody hundreds, but yer can't blame the bike if it rolls off it's stand!!
Don't park down hill, park in gear, take up that two / three inches of 'slack' in that gear, and all will be well in your world.
It's not being smug, it's called using yer bonce!!

 

[Nutty]

Mine fell over because I parked on a slight slope, and left the bike in neutral. My error. Although it was only a slight slope, and chances are that any of my previous model GS's wouldn't have fallen over if left in neutral, this one did, and I should have left it in gear. Simple. I won't make that mistake again!

On my recent trip to Europe, I left the bike on the steepest of inclines, in first gear every time, all in the search for the perfect photo, and it didn't fall over once.

 

[sijohnston]

Ahhh, oh how I do appreciate a little tutorial from the 'vets'. Alas when I've reached landmark utterances on this forum of 6059 or 38,395 I too might be at best skilled enough to know how to park a bike, or at worst sanctimonious enough to use the misfortune of others to somehow highlight my own self-deification.* If by some error of judgement I end up in any of your respective corners of England, I'll be sure to give you advanced notice so that you can prepare your presentations on how I might ride/park my machine. God knows where us rookies would be without your sagely wisdom and generosity of spirit?

On the other hand, I might take you to a gentle incline with my bike loaded just as it was and show you what happened, with all your little experience gleaned fail safes in place, and watch as you admit that you didn't think such a thing possible. It's alright, I believe in forgiveness don't ya know? Until then, save the shite for your wives, children, colleagues and other long-suffering acquaintances and the rest of us will continue to throw GS related things up here that we love, loathe, or remain non-plussed about and yet crave your intimacy over.

*If I'm wrong though, and riding/parking bikes in jungles to deserts as well as tarmac in Blighty, or even big bad Europe, is more a measure of nous than posts, then perhaps I'll just forget you said anything about this at all. Humour me fellas, humour me.

Ahhhh c'mon ......
Yes, of course we're all allowed rookie errors - god knows I've made bloody hundreds, but yer can't blame the bike if it rolls off it's stand!!
Don't park down hill, park in gear, take up that two / three inches of 'slack' in that gear, and all will be well in your world.
It's not being smug, it's called using yer bonce!!

 

[King55]

I tend to stop my engine by lowering the side stand whilst motor is running in 1st gear which cuts the motor then I'm sure it's in mesh, if you can get this into a habit you'll have no more roll-offs

+1 on that

 

[Deleted account 181015003]

I nearly dropped a demo when it rolled of the stand luckly it just fell against me as I was stood with my back to it no harm done the stand is a piss poor design in comparison to the old model so the owners will learn to change their thinking and a slight gradient when the old model and most other bikes will be secure the wc will fall off its stand if not in gear the owners must learn to expect it to roll forward due to its piss poor designed stand no doubt this problem will be fixed in a updated model in a year or so

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[spikerjack 46]

Just thought I'd throw my tuppence worth in. Got a slight declne/incline in the back garden. Bring yer bikes round and we'll have a competition. Longest one standing gets a drink.
Back in the day I had two 'bricks'. The centre stands collasped on both of them. Went to local dealer who more or less showed me the door. Not having it. Wrote a nice letter to BMW GB, hey presto, take yer bike back to dealer where it'll be fixed FOC.

 

[GrinningGSer]

If I were a university student, I'd be designing a roll test right now. Which bike would be your benchmark ? Which would be the loser ?

 

[mikebarr]

Me too

Yup, another "rolling off side stand" sad story here

I had a 650 twin prior to the LC and parked it on a SLIGHT incline on my driveway every day, in the same place, for years, for 30 seconds while I opened my garage.

Had the LC 3 days, parked in in the same place, trotted off to open my garage door and turned around to see my brand new pride and joy gently rolling forward and crumpling onto its side.

(I also had engine bars in the garage to fit "tomorrow" - dammit)

Further to the comments by Si and others - I too have been riding motorbikes for quite a few years and covered a fair few miles so I feel I'm also qualified to suggest that the side stand on this particular bike is not as reliable as other bikes - in this specific situation.

Other than that - best bike I have ever owned. Unbelievable machine.

MB

 

[Reckless]

It might just be me but I think that my WC GSA sits more upright on the sidestand that my TC ever did - perhaps thats why folk are having problems with the sidestand roll-offs? Not much you can do about it except take extra care when parking up - my 10 day-old K1200RS rolled off its stand in 2003 and I never really trusted sidestands ever since - however, with a Cameltoe fitted, I think the GSA is as good as any now.

 

[GrinningGSer]

This next statement could make a few pages;
Of course the effectiveness of the side stand is massively complicated by variations in ESA settings.

 

[trebor]

The reason I asked in an earlier post about a Cameltoe, or similar, being fitted was that I did wonder if the extra length the Cameltoe added to the sidestand made it more susceptible to rolling off the stand. However, the Cameltoe also makes the 'footprint' of the sidestand much larger so it should counteract this added length and possibly make it less likely to roll off. Looking at the responses it looks like some have had them fitted and others haven't.

One thing I learnt very early on with both my previous 2008 GS, and more recent 2010 GSA, was that if parked on a slight slope there was a possibility that they could roll off the stand, especially if the engine was left running. Fortunately, on the two occasions this happened to me I was still stood by the bike and kept it upright. Therefore I learnt to always try to park on level ground or on an upward slope, otherwise to leave it in gear. It does sound like the new LC versions are more prone to this, so thanks for the heads up (before I collect mine in two weeks).

Bob