Bike Security
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I do find the attitude towards security products and ideas by some baffling.
Its about balance, convenience and,as the say, layers.
This idea is quick, convenient and the lock required is small and light to give a basic level of security and inconvenience to the opportunist thief. Would it be my chosen, sole method of securing my bike in central London, of course not. That said, i doubt id rely on any one product in high risk areas.
Where this idea and many other lightweight products do shine is an additional layer. Its one more thing the scrotes have to deal with.
No one is suggesting its a substitute for a 22mm chain but they can weight over 12 kgs and then you've the lock on top to make it worth carrying.
Combined with a disclock, lightlok and a lighter weight chain its might just persuade the towrag to move on to the next one.
You have to look at these sort of things for what they are.
While im on it, those who suggest a monster chain sitting on the pillion seat do seem to over look the reason that seat is actually there.
Its about balance, convenience and,as the say, layers.
This idea is quick, convenient and the lock required is small and light to give a basic level of security and inconvenience to the opportunist thief. Would it be my chosen, sole method of securing my bike in central London, of course not. That said, i doubt id rely on any one product in high risk areas.
Where this idea and many other lightweight products do shine is an additional layer. Its one more thing the scrotes have to deal with.
No one is suggesting its a substitute for a 22mm chain but they can weight over 12 kgs and then you've the lock on top to make it worth carrying.
Combined with a disclock, lightlok and a lighter weight chain its might just persuade the towrag to move on to the next one.
You have to look at these sort of things for what they are.
While im on it, those who suggest a monster chain sitting on the pillion seat do seem to over look the reason that seat is actually there.
I'm not sure I'd use the centre stand lock, although it's an impressive mod.
When the bike is out and about, I prefer to leave it on the side stand for stability. Overnight, it'll be secured by a Hiplok through the front wheel, an alarmed disk lock (because I have one, not because they're much use), a cheap motion alarm, tracker and possibly a u lock through the back wheel.
No, it won't stop it being lifted into a van, but big chains are impractical and you're never guaranteed something to lock it to.
When the bike is out and about, I prefer to leave it on the side stand for stability. Overnight, it'll be secured by a Hiplok through the front wheel, an alarmed disk lock (because I have one, not because they're much use), a cheap motion alarm, tracker and possibly a u lock through the back wheel.
No, it won't stop it being lifted into a van, but big chains are impractical and you're never guaranteed something to lock it to.
Exactly how I used mine. Was about £100 when Mark made mine. In addition I had a second one on the front wheel also an alarmed padlock, both from BMW.
Main stand Security padlock Locking Lug (Modification & Refurbishment)
Our Main Stand Locking Lug provides a low key additional level of security. One small addition to your main stand provides a secure location to lock a padlock.
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i would probably fall off
no, seriously to be quite honest i do not know. to answer your question the metalwork certainly seems to up to the job in my humble opinion.
is suppose the strength of the welding if not done properly could make that a weaker point than the 12mm shackle on the lock but looking at mark's work in general i honestly dont see it being an issue
My thought process was/is
a front disc lock the front of the bike can be lifted and wheeled on the back wheel to the van
a chain on the back wheel the back of the bike can be lifted and wheeled to the van
a centre stand in the middle of the bike would need the whole weight of the bike carrying to the van
there is nothing that will stop the determined thieving scrote but if it slows them down then its a step in the right direction in my mind
probably, at least in the beginning. although even when removing it becomes second nature it would make the scrotes look and see there is another form of anti theft for them to overcome. though not sure if this is a good or a bad thing.......
i wouldnt like to say which bikes it would work on, i guess any of the 1200/1250 LC range would be compatible check on Marks website (https://www.cymarcbikeparts.co.uk/) or call him, you couldnt deal with a nicer bloke
Looks like a very good idea for deterring casual thief’s .
I think I will weld some bits onto my Suzuki 800 DE
somthing on the Center stand would be best I recon as the bike can still be pushed with the side stand down ,, but not on the Center stand
I think I will weld some bits onto my Suzuki 800 DE
somthing on the Center stand would be best I recon as the bike can still be pushed with the side stand down ,, but not on the Center stand 
No not ignorance.you will have to excuse my ignorance, i havent a clue what you are on about
Its a well known safety and security feature to have a pound of butter in the fridge, according to this very website!
I was was just crowing about doubling up on my security.
And sharing the love.
i’d love to have this mod, but having an R1200RTLC and being absolutely crap at DIY/welding/fabrication I’d have have someone else do it for me. Unfortunately that doesn’t include Cymark who have declined to even sell me the bit of metal to get welded onto the stand.
I do appreciate it’s not a GS/GSA, so it’s his choice at the end of the day.
I notice the op hasn’t thought about how vulnerable the pins are, so you turn the pins around and put them in from the opposite direction, now impossible to knock them out
As you can see with my stand, I reversed the pins and the exhaust stops you getting any object in to knock them out.
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i’d love to have this mod, but having an R1200RTLC and being absolutely crap at DIY/welding/fabrication I’d have have someone else do it for me. Unfortunately that doesn’t include Cymark who have declined to even sell me the bit of metal to get welded onto the stand.
I do appreciate it’s not a GS/GSA, so it’s his choice at the end of the day.
He didn’t want to sell it you because it wouldn’t fit, he’s refused probably because he wants to protect his good name incase your welder makes a shite job or done wrong especially if you was going to try and have it welded on without taking the stand off, it would fry your electrics
Your stand is the same as a gs, just send your stand to mark within a couple of days you will receive it back powder coated and looking better then new, plus for forum bods he offers discount.
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Really good idea that but would it stop your angle grinder wielding scrote just cutting off your two stand legs? Hopefully due to the obvious lack of brain cells most poses they won’t be able to work that one out.
For years I’ve thought a locking main stand would be a great idea. Yes it’s defeatable like any other layer of security, but
the scrotes are unlikely to be aware of it as it’s not a common security device, imagine them trying to push the bike off the main stand and it not happening. It would slow them down trying to figure out why, and probably induce a little panic. They need to work quickly and get away. They will have already spent time cutting off other locks etc.
No it wouldn’t stop four blokes with scaffolding poles and a van, but I’m sure far more thefts are the opportunistic masked little fuckers who ride round looking for bikes to steal.
the scrotes are unlikely to be aware of it as it’s not a common security device, imagine them trying to push the bike off the main stand and it not happening. It would slow them down trying to figure out why, and probably induce a little panic. They need to work quickly and get away. They will have already spent time cutting off other locks etc.
No it wouldn’t stop four blokes with scaffolding poles and a van, but I’m sure far more thefts are the opportunistic masked little fuckers who ride round looking for bikes to steal.
Yeah and what if the scrote comes armed with a Helfire missile ??
FFS. It’s a layering system.
If a determined scrote wants your bike Hess having it. Period.
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FFS. It’s a layering system.
If a determined scrote wants your bike Hess having it. Period.
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