Bloody Gs's

[daj]

Here we go. Was supposed to be setting off on a nice bank holiday weekend in Belgium with my son. Packed, started the bike to get it if the drive, no problem. Went out 5 mins later, got on it....nothing. Turn on, can hear pump, battery fine, turns over lovely, no spark either plug! Any suggestions most welcome looks like our pre-paid trip is off - already missed the shuttle. One very pissed off dad and sad son.

Cheers

DAJ

 

[daj]

Sorry, should mention the bike is an 02 1150 gs, single spark. Bastard, bloody thing!

 

[Flipfly]

Is the toggle switch by the starter button in the middle it may seem stupid, but you wouldn't be the first

Alarmed?
I'd suggest it's very unusual for the bike to just to stop working. Alarms are an absolute wanker in my experience as they are prone to failure.

Have you checked all the fuses and connections to the coil etc?

 

[daj]

Hi,

Yep switch was in the middle, alarm not fitted...for that very reason. Just checked all the fuses....made it worse, strange noise from the underseat area and now battery has just gone completely flat...in almost one hit.

 

[casper]

Check your battery connections are tight.

 

[Ian J Hartley]

When you say no spark either plug, I assume you have removed the plugs and checked, were they wet when you took them out, this would indicate fuel.

If you have assumed there is no spark, you may well have flooded the engine with your short trip to the drive.

To suddenly loose both sparks indicates either coil or hall sensor. When you crank it over is the RPM gauge flickering/ bouncing. This could indicate hall sensor.

 

[Ian J Hartley]

Does the noise sound like it was coming from the battery. Were you cranking the bike for a really long time. Could be battery trying to recover, or it's toast.

 

[daj]

Hi all,

The plugs were dry and there wasn't the usual smell of fuel that goes with frequent turning over. Removed one injector and no fuel spurted when cranked. Was in contact with Steptoe and could be Hall sensor fail. Bike is being relayed over today. Sadly Belgium is off. One very sad young boy. Unstoppable...my arse. Thanks for all your help.

 

[Steptoe]

Hi,

Yep switch was in the middle, alarm not fitted...for that very reason. Just checked all the fuses....made it worse, strange noise from the underseat area and now battery has just gone completely flat...in almost one hit.

Hi all,

The plugs were dry and there wasn't the usual smell of fuel that goes with frequent turning over. Removed one injector and no fuel spurted when cranked. Was in contact with Steptoe and could be Hall sensor fail. Bike is being relayed over today. Sadly Belgium is off. One very sad young boy. Unstoppable...my arse. Thanks for all your help.

The problem was the starter motor.

Full of a thick mud like substance, which seems to have sucked all the electrical current in the struggle of turning the engine over leaving no electric for any other important electrical parts..

And then the starter motor had had enough and finally seized.

Really, you maybe pissed off, but on your drive is the perfect place to breakdown.
Imagine if it'd happened while stopped at a service station on your first fuel stop in europe.

 

[kirky1298]

Really, you maybe pissed off, but on your drive is the perfect place to breakdown.
Imagine if it'd happened while stopped at a service station on your first fuel stop in europe.

Although you are pissed off , Steppers is right . 3 breakdowns last year on My first major foray into Europe set me back 3 days and wasted the whole trip experience. Although it made for a good ride report . Time to re-group and re-plan your trip .

 

[motobiker]

The problem was the starter motor.

Full of a thick mud like substance,

care to elaborate? never heard of this before.. side effect of 'fording' perhaps under a previous keepers 'care'?

 

[slalom]

Hi
Had a similar problem with mine over a period. Sluggish turning over, sometimes failing to get past compression, zeroing clock, knocking ABS out. But not every time which was confusing.
Finally took starter to local auto electrician who reported that it was 'industrially dirty'. Cleaned out and refitted. now practically spins itself out of the garage. No further need to keep resetting ABS or clock.
No idea how it got that dirty. I've had the bike for 12 years, maybe it was feeling neglected. 99.999% road use.

Cheers