Booster plug

[Deleted account 200417001]

Looks like the HT route would be the correct way to go then as the tune / adaption would be in the ECU itself which would be at the base line of operation and adjusting the fuel map to allow the o2 sensors to operate at the correct level / mixture without the so called trick of the plug. Makes interesting reading that the HT route is possible as said above the ecu is adaptable and programmable and would allow a better trimmed fuel map . Mmmmmm makes you head spin .

Hilltop is bollocks, not really a map.

At best its a booster plug type adjustment, at worst its an ecu reset/scam

 

[Winjar]

Hilltop is bollocks, not really a map.

At best its a booster plug type adjustment, at worst its an ecu reset/scam

Drink a batham beer make you feel better.

 

[Roger 04 RT]

Had the reply.


Hello Dave,

No need to worry - the BoosterPlug will do it’s job on your bike too

The BoosterPlug is designed to work in cooperation with the O2 sensors to give the engine the small controlled fuel enrichment where it needs it the most - here is how it works:

When you are riding the bike at constant speed on the open roads, the ECU can trust the o2 sensor signal and then it will let the O2 sensors control the mixture (This is called closed loop). The leaner mixture is fine here because the engine is running good under these conditions and dont need the richer mixture.

At idle, low RPM and during acceleration and deceleration, the ECU “Knows” that the O2 sensor signal is not stable and will/must ignore the O2 sensor feedback and rely on its mapping and input from various sensors (This is called open loop). This is where the BoosterPlug will make the air/fuel ratio slightly richer, and also where the engine needs the richer mixture.

So the BoosterPlug will make the mixture richer where the engine needs it the most, but stay inactive where the engine runs fine on the leaner mixture.

The discussion about the Fuel Injection ECU's ability to update its own basic fuel map (adaption or long term trim) is a rumor that pops up once in a while.

And for some reason it is only BMW motorcycles that are supposed to have this magical feature

But the common narrow band lambda sensor that is found in all road approved vehicles is not able to update the fuel map, so the BoosterPlug is not cancelled out over time.

And it’s actually quite simple to prove the adaption theory wrong:

• If you look at the millions of motorcycles with aftermarket exhausts installed, you will see (hear) that most of them have some degree of backfire or popping in the exhaust when the rider close the throttle.
• The aftermarket exhaust will flow a bit more air than the stock exhaust, and more air means that the air/fuel ratio (AFR) changes to the lean side - which causes the backfire on deceleration.
• If the adaption theory was right, the lambda sensor would sense the change in AFR, and the ECU would update it’s basic fuel map - and then the problem would be solved and there would be no more popping or backfire in the exhaust.
• But we all know that these bikes does not cure themself and the backfire stays the same over time - so there is no adaption proces taking place !!!
• And it is the same thing with the BoosterPlug: Our device is changing the AFR (This time to the better), but the Lambda sensor and he ECU will not be able to reverse the changes.

We have sold way over 45.000 units since we founded the BoosterPlug company in 2009, and our customers are as happy with the BoosterPlug in year 2-3-4 as they were on day one. And we have lots of returning customers purchasing their second or third BoosterPlug when they get a new bike. Fancy sales talk can usually fool a few people, but we would never have seen this massive support for our device if it stopped working after some time.


Best Regards



Jens Lyck

BoosterPlug.com
Slotsgade 3
4880 Nysted
Denmark

What would you expect someone who has become a millionaire selling these to write?

 

[Deleted account 200417001]

Drink a batham beer make you feel better.

wouldn't touch that filth either.

 

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wouldn't touch that filth either.

Says a brown ale dribbler

 

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Alraedy say Hilttop and booster same rubbish, why this feels like Hilltop promotion, shood have said first.

Not at all. Just asked a question .

 

[Deleted account 200417001]

Says a brown ale dribbler

Wrong Newcastle

 

[Deleted account 200417001]

The difference is booster plug gives a clear message of what it is.

Hilltop just spout shit that doesn’t add up apparently.

 

[spoonz]

Not at all. Just asked a question .

And I’m a Dutchman ( I’m not just for clarity)

 

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Wrong Newcastle

Newcastle brown ale , we used to clean the bog with it

 

[Deleted account 200417001]

Newcastle brown ale , we used to clean the bog with it

I am not with you? what's your point?

You on the criminals payroll ???

 

[Winjar]

And I’m a Dutchman ( I’m not just for clarity)

I Dutch also, but do not see clear why, maybe I drink not enuff batham beer.

 

[Winjar]

Had the reply.


Hello Dave,

No need to worry - the BoosterPlug will do it’s job on your bike too

The BoosterPlug is designed to work in cooperation with the O2 sensors to give the engine the small controlled fuel enrichment where it needs it the most - here is how it works:

When you are riding the bike at constant speed on the open roads, the ECU can trust the o2 sensor signal and then it will let the O2 sensors control the mixture (This is called closed loop). The leaner mixture is fine here because the engine is running good under these conditions and dont need the richer mixture.

At idle, low RPM and during acceleration and deceleration, the ECU “Knows” that the O2 sensor signal is not stable and will/must ignore the O2 sensor feedback and rely on its mapping and input from various sensors (This is called open loop). This is where the BoosterPlug will make the air/fuel ratio slightly richer, and also where the engine needs the richer mixture.

So the BoosterPlug will make the mixture richer where the engine needs it the most, but stay inactive where the engine runs fine on the leaner mixture.

The discussion about the Fuel Injection ECU's ability to update its own basic fuel map (adaption or long term trim) is a rumor that pops up once in a while.

And for some reason it is only BMW motorcycles that are supposed to have this magical feature

But the common narrow band lambda sensor that is found in all road approved vehicles is not able to update the fuel map, so the BoosterPlug is not cancelled out over time.

And it’s actually quite simple to prove the adaption theory wrong:

• If you look at the millions of motorcycles with aftermarket exhausts installed, you will see (hear) that most of them have some degree of backfire or popping in the exhaust when the rider close the throttle.
• The aftermarket exhaust will flow a bit more air than the stock exhaust, and more air means that the air/fuel ratio (AFR) changes to the lean side - which causes the backfire on deceleration.
• If the adaption theory was right, the lambda sensor would sense the change in AFR, and the ECU would update it’s basic fuel map - and then the problem would be solved and there would be no more popping or backfire in the exhaust.
• But we all know that these bikes does not cure themself and the backfire stays the same over time - so there is no adaption proces taking place !!!
• And it is the same thing with the BoosterPlug: Our device is changing the AFR (This time to the better), but the Lambda sensor and he ECU will not be able to reverse the changes.

We have sold way over 45.000 units since we founded the BoosterPlug company in 2009, and our customers are as happy with the BoosterPlug in year 2-3-4 as they were on day one. And we have lots of returning customers purchasing their second or third BoosterPlug when they get a new bike. Fancy sales talk can usually fool a few people, but we would never have seen this massive support for our device if it stopped working after some time.


Best Regards



Jens Lyck

BoosterPlug.com
Slotsgade 3
4880 Nysted
Denmark

Is it possible to have email from Hilltop also to be compare, many storys nice to now 2 stories.

 

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Is it possible to have email from Hilltop also to be compare, many storys nice to now 2 stories.

I haven't emailed Geoff to ask , and its no real relevance to the Op , I will still try one on the BM as the difference its made to my KTM is noticeable and the bike does run better with it on, it may not work and may end up on the shelf , but the cost is little but the satisfaction of making my own mind up will settle well with my methods , thanks all for the advice / warnings and facts / illusions etc etc ……… Happy days and one wheels enough

 

[Winjar]

I haven't emailed Geoff to ask , and its no real relevance to the Op , I will still try one on the BM as the difference its made to my KTM is noticeable and the bike does run better with it on, it may not work and may end up on the shelf , but the cost is little but the satisfaction of making my own mind up will settle well with my methods , thanks all for the advice / warnings and facts / illusions etc etc ……… Happy days and one wheels enough

has the ktm 3 x O2 sensors same as 1250 GS

 

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has the ktm 3 x O2 sensors same as 1250 GS

No only one .

 

[Roger 04 RT]

I haven't emailed Geoff to ask , and its no real relevance to the Op , I will still try one on the BM as the difference its made to my KTM is noticeable and the bike does run better with it on, it may not work and may end up on the shelf , but the cost is little but the satisfaction of making my own mind up will settle well with my methods , thanks all for the advice / warnings and facts / illusions etc etc ……… Happy days and one wheels enough

I have three, two for 1150s and one for a 1200, all in my junk box. Let me see if one is right for your 1250. Whether I have one or not though, since the BP does nothing but in a relatively accurate manner, it’ll do no harm either. Some temp shifting devices, don’t have probes, and therefore add a significant error.

 

[Winjar]

No only one .

So how can you compare, it is like 2 different gouda cheese.

 

[Rockred]

I have three, two for 1150s and one for a 1200, all in my junk box. Let me see if one is right for your 1250. Whether I have one or not though, since the BP does nothing but in a relatively accurate manner, it’ll do no harm either. Some temp shifting devices, don’t have probes, and therefore add a significant error.

I’ve offered mine free in this thread, but had no takers........Can’t give them away....

 

[spoonz]

So how can you compare, it is like 2 different gouda cheese.

As you may have noticed, logic has very little to do with some tuning posts.