Bosch 0580314068 - sock included ?

[Dr Bones]

My r1100gs fuel pump is whining quite badly and rather than wait for it to expire I've looked into getting a replacement Bosch 0580314068 unit, I found somewhere locally can get me a genuine Bosch unit for £89 all in, but they don't know if it comes with the filter sock. Can anyone confirm if the sock is included and if not, the part code for a new one (unless of course you just wash the old one out and reuse it?)

thanks

 

[flatdog]

no it's not included just be careful removing the assembly and it should be ok to re-use "- its only gauze
Part 0580314068 from motor factors cost me 69.00 all in if it helps.
Get one but don't let the noise put you off as some do get noisy and still work fine.

 

[argos]

Have you changed the filter?just a thought,cheers

 

[Fanum]

I got a replacement for mine a month or two back (1150 not 1100 but it's the same part....here's the Motorwoks listing)

Mine wasn't bosch but it didnt come with the sock.....I'm pretty sure a replacement bosch won't either, as it's a BMW thing not a bosch thng if you see what I mean.

Motoworks do them for 24 quid (see above link) but I just washed the old one out and re-used it.

If it's of any use, the pump I got was part number FPTFP2098, cost 54 quid

It's a generic 3bar regulated in tank pump, also fits many audis and VWs.

The only minor difference was a bit of bending needed to get the bracket mounted to the filler plate to fit, then bending it back to hold the pump body again.

24 quid is a silly price for what is essentially just a petrol proof nylon bag

Go into any motorfactors with the Bosch part number (that's the reference they all cross to other brands in the books) and you can find them for down to about 35 quid (David Hale got his for £32 in a recent thread)

Unless your original sock is floating around lost in the tank (In which case it needs to come out anyway) or ripped up (unlikely) why not re-use?

 

[Dr Bones]

Have you changed the filter?just a thought,cheers

I am intending on replacing the filter, the pump and the pipe in the tank. Might as well while I'm in there.

 

[Dr Bones]

I've found other makes of pump 'equivalent' to the Bosch one cheaper, but I'm a bit wary of ending up with some chinese junk. Any brands other than Bosch I should be able to trust ?

 

[Fanum]

I am intending on replacing the filter, the pump and the pipe in the tank. Might as well while I'm in there.

Neil did a thread once about re-positioning the filter to outside the tank.

It's how I've got mine (below) and it turns changing the fuel filter from a major PITA job with potential to bend the sensor arm, to a 3 minute one

 

[Dr Bones]

Neil did a thread once about re-positioning the filter to outside the tank.

It's how I've got mine (below) and it turns changing the fuel filter from a major PITA job with potential to bend the sensor arm, to a 3 minute one

That sounds like a good idea, do you have the link to the original topic ?

 

[Fanum]

It'll be in the Font of all wisdom section.

 

[Dr Bones]

I think I found it

Search on the site didn't bring anything obvious up but google brought me back here

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26967&page=1&pp=10&highlight=exterior+fuel+filter

 

[Fanum]

I think I found it

Search on the site didn't bring anything obvious up but google brought me back here

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26967&page=1&pp=10&highlight=exterior+fuel+filter

That's the fella
Nobby's link at the bottom also goes to some useful stuff.

 

[Sparkle]

Fanum

To quote from Nobby's post

"2. Original (expensive!) BMW filter or steel-bodied Deutsch FF401 or FF424 filter (both Deutsch's are the same except for unneeded hose adapters/clamps with the FF424) available at Auto Zone (~$2.00). The FF401/424 are for various and sundry small and big car gas and diesel engines ranging up to MOPAR 440 cubic inch V8s. DON'T use the Fram G2 nylon-encased equivalent. The high 42 psi fuel pressure could burst a non-metallic fuel filter case!"

Just noted the fuel filter in your posted photo !

 

[uncle dick]

Neil did a thread once about re-positioning the filter to outside the tank.

It's how I've got mine (below) and it turns changing the fuel filter from a major PITA job with potential to bend the sensor arm, to a 3 minute one

Is that filter happy at 3 bar? It looks like a generic type from carburettor days of old to me. The metal cased ones as in Steptoe's thread would be much better IMHO.

 

[Fanum]

Fanum



Just noted the fuel filter in your posted photo !

Yep........bog standard off the shelf filter, £3,45 inc vat i think.....

Opaque, so if/when it starts getting clogged, I'll know immediately.

Similar size to OEM metal one, and I carry a spare on board just in case.


If you go down that route, don't blame me if it splits and an errant spark from somewhere burns you to a crisp, but I have no worries about it myself and have regularly taken Rosie and one of the kids out with that type of filter in place

 

[Dr Bones]

Been looking further into this, has anyone got a photo of how they bypassed the filter inside the tank. I'm thinking that a piece of 8mm microbore (I could flare the ends to stop the pipes blowing off) would do it, but I'm not sure that I should be putting copper in the fuel tank ?

Maybe a piece of stainless tube would be better

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STAINLESS-STEEL-TUBE-8mm-OD-x-600mm-LONG-1mm-W-Brushed-/250845473184

 

[ChrisH Kerry]

have regularly taken Rosie and one of the kids out

That's good to know... my wife was only just saying the seat was so big on the 1150 there was room for the youngest lad as well. Nice to have confirmation she was right

 

[Stewart H]

Been looking further into this, has anyone got a photo of how they bypassed the filter inside the tank. I'm thinking that a piece of 8mm microbore (I could flare the ends to stop the pipes blowing off) would do it, but I'm not sure that I should be putting copper in the fuel tank ?

Maybe a piece of stainless tube would be better

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STAINLESS-STEEL-TUBE-8mm-OD-x-600mm-LONG-1mm-W-Brushed-/250845473184

I used a piece of 8MM copper and some fuel injection clips, it has been in there for three years at least with no problems.

 

[Puffin]

Copper can De-grade your fuel, if left long enough. But in the real world it`s hardly going to be a problem.

Pumps and pump kits are available in vast range of prices, a friend bought this one for his bike http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Fuel-Pu...Parts_Accessories&hash=item53e844f982&vxp=mtr


The pump was identical to this one which i had bought for mine http://www.worldcarparts.co.uk/CarParts/tabid/144/ProductID/1749/Default.aspx