Bridgestone A41 tyres
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Rainbow - do you have these on your Tiger 900. My Tiger 900 Rally Pro came with them on.
In the dry they have been fantastic although even running bike in I have had traction control lights on on a few occasions whoch surprised me.
In the wet I have had a few rear end fish tails which even with the TC doing its bit would not have ended unless I had shut down the throttle. So am unsure about them - I was putting the above moments down to lighter bike than my GSA, but perhaps it is just poor tyres?
I used to love bridgestones (023's) on my VFR800's many years back. Hated Batalax's on my 1st GSA - moment after moment with those!
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Yes, OE on the Rally Pro, and I echo your thoughts, fine in the dry but quite scary in the wet.
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Glad its not just me - think a change will be happening soon!
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On the bike when I bought it .
Similar experience with A41’s. left for a holiday in the Pyrenees with good tyres, front was barely legal when we left the ferry at Portsmouth. Went to Conti RoadAttack 3’s. brilliant!
My first GS (Hexhead) came with Karoo 3's
great in the dry, lethal in the wet - noise level - fecking noisy
changed to Avon Trialriders, great in the dry, great in the wet ( fully loaded torrential rain good), - noise level - you could hear it, but not ride destroying
When the Trailriders wore out, replacements were nil stock, so i ended up with Metzeler Tourances
Took an extraordinary long time to bed in, but were as good as the Trailriders
Moved to a wethead
It came with Anakee nexts ( next to useless)
rear was badly squared, so you couldn't turn in or out as it would lurch off the shelf in the middle of the tyre
Swapped them for a set of Trailriders - read the comments for the hexhead
They squirm over cats eyes at low speed (filtering) but by the time you think, squirm its passed
great in the dry, lethal in the wet - noise level - fecking noisy
changed to Avon Trialriders, great in the dry, great in the wet ( fully loaded torrential rain good), - noise level - you could hear it, but not ride destroying
When the Trailriders wore out, replacements were nil stock, so i ended up with Metzeler Tourances
Took an extraordinary long time to bed in, but were as good as the Trailriders
Moved to a wethead
It came with Anakee nexts ( next to useless)
rear was badly squared, so you couldn't turn in or out as it would lurch off the shelf in the middle of the tyre
Swapped them for a set of Trailriders - read the comments for the hexhead
They squirm over cats eyes at low speed (filtering) but by the time you think, squirm its passed
A tyre fitter who has supported one of the bike magazines for years in their testing of tyres came to my place to fit an A41 to my Africa Twin told me something interesting. He said that the OEM tyre was not as good as the replacement he was fitting and showed me the different manufacture codes on the sidewall compared to the OEM tyre. The tread depth is less on the OEM and the compound is slightly different due to Honda negotiating supply of OEM tyres with Bridgestone as a "what can you supply for our budget? "
The fitter said that this applies to most OEM tyres, based on years of experience and feedback from professional road testers.
Having tested the two tyres almost back to back I found the new tyre gave smoother feedback, but question to what degree this is me comparing worn & new tyres.
The fitter said that this applies to most OEM tyres, based on years of experience and feedback from professional road testers.
Having tested the two tyres almost back to back I found the new tyre gave smoother feedback, but question to what degree this is me comparing worn & new tyres.
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I've heard this before and did see an article some time ago showing different tread depths for OEM versus replacements.
I have no problem in the dry with the A41's and they are edge to edge both front and back, it's purely the wet weather grip which must be down to compound rather than tread depth, and I do believe that a replacement would probably be better and suspect Triumph have done exactly as mentioned below.
As soon as I can I'll replace my A41's for either Pirelli Rally STR's or Michelin Anakee Adventures as I want something a bit more 80/20, but I want to remove the wheels myself on the Tiger 900, so just need to get a set of paddock stands and bobbins to do this. (awaiting the bobbins to come in stock from Triumph - as they need to be specific to fit the swingarm design).
RBW.
I have no problem in the dry with the A41's and they are edge to edge both front and back, it's purely the wet weather grip which must be down to compound rather than tread depth, and I do believe that a replacement would probably be better and suspect Triumph have done exactly as mentioned below.
As soon as I can I'll replace my A41's for either Pirelli Rally STR's or Michelin Anakee Adventures as I want something a bit more 80/20, but I want to remove the wheels myself on the Tiger 900, so just need to get a set of paddock stands and bobbins to do this. (awaiting the bobbins to come in stock from Triumph - as they need to be specific to fit the swingarm design).
RBW.
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Same experience here with the A41. Just been to Austria and these must be the worst tyres i have ever ridden on in the wet, ok in the dry; they have to go!
They are the original OEM's (2019 GSA1250) and at 7k they still look good for another 7k at least, must be a super hard wearing compound ?
Thinking of replacing with the Tourance as used for 10,000's on previous GS.
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It does make me think whether this is a false economy for the tyre manufacturers producing cheaper tyres for the bike manufacturers, because I will now never go near another pair of A41's by choice. Although I guess to counter that that loss of sales and profit on tyre renewals because people had a bad experience is probably dwarfed by the profit on the contracts with manufacturers.
RBW.
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I have the A41 tyres on my 1250 and just bought another set. Since I overshot my entry into a corner in the Highlands with my wife on the back and laying that bike over to take that corner, the tyres did not disappoint. The rear tyre does tend to skip a little over white lines having harder top surface but that doesn't bother me. If I only wanted to stay on the road then I suppose I would look at PR5's but for all round tyres these are good value.
No idea how you’ve got 7k out the front; mines gone after under 4,000!
https://www.ukgser.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=468135&stc=1&d=1599414380
Yup....my front was over done at 3900 miles
Yup....my front was over done at 3900 miles
Picked up the new GSA today. Did about 120 miles to gradually scrub the tyres in (A41’s) and then started to push it. They’re absolutely fine and just like I remembered them on my previous bike (until around 4K Miles). So I’ve concluded that’ll be keeping them on until the front goes again; we’ll then see what’s trending.
I've got A41's on my 1250. Just over a 1000 mostly dry miles, and I think they are very grippy but don't know about tyre life yet. Some of these posts are scarring me as I've always been a standard tourance man. If we believe that OE 41's could be sub-standard, how do they compare to new replacement 41's?
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