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Had a letter today from BMW UK.
As of 1st November, Dick Lovett Group at Cribbs Causeway Brisol will be taking over the BMW Motorrad Franchise at their existing car showroom whilst a dedicated motorcycle facility is constructed on site.
Progress?
 
BMW are linking Motorrad within the car dealerships no doubt to save costs. What will happen to the likes of CW Dorchester, Bahnstormer, Pidcocks etc? Bath Road Motorcycles remain and offer cheaper servicing, but not warranty work obviously.
 
BMW are linking Motorrad within the car dealerships no doubt to save costs. What will happen to the likes of CW Dorchester, Bahnstormer, Pidcocks etc? Bath Road Motorcycles remain and offer cheaper servicing, but not warranty work obviously.

They did the reverse in Cardiff when Rydale was taken over by Sytner.

Most of the dealerships are franchise based and BMW don't care if the dealerships are dual franchise or single franchise. All they care about is that the dealer does as they are told and spends the requisite amount of money to upgrade their showroom to the latest trend every time the relevant corporate director issues a mandate. A number of successful dealerships have got fed up with this merry-go-round and fell out with BMW as a result: BVM Stroud, SW Superbikes Newport, Fowlers, Cardiff are relatively local ones that got burnt by persistent requests to suck corporate cock!
 
It's a real shame, I'll say this now because I have known about this for a long time and I've had friends at Bristol Motorrad for many years. I do not know the politics behind all of this but it would seem that BMW are evolving into big posh premises favoured by car dealers. All of this is at a time that bike sales have fallen off a cliff. I really do not know what to think. I am glad that I am not a motorcycle dealer at the moment because there is no near horizon sign that there will be any big return on multi million pound motorcycle investments. :confused:
 
They must know "bikers" don't much care for the flashier showrooms and in most cases probably prefer the enthusiastic bike dealers.

I think many of these go downhill as they grow anyway, I suspect George White was a keen "biker" and loved motorcycles, but I doubt he is to be found in his shops too often and probably spends most of his time on a Yacht somewhere.

"Traditional Bikers" are dissapearing fast, and by "Traditional Biker" I mean those who have always had a love of bikes, started off on a moped, progressed to a 125 / 250 or whatever was allowed back in their day before quickly whizzing through a test so as to get on board some sort of huge powerhouse of a bike.

As a lad I had a picture of a GPZ900R on my wall, a couple of years later I got a FS1E, many college mates had trendy 50's, but these were restricted and slow so I got a FS1E (Had an AP50 as well at one point) I avoided a 125 and got a cheap 80 to pass my test and then bough a 250LC which was cheaper than my mates RD125's - and a lot bloody quicker, by nineteen I was on a GPZ900R - although by then the ZX10 was out, but I was certainly happy!

These days teenage kids get a ped because it is all they can have until they hit 17 and can have a car, I would say at least 25% of 16 year old boys had mopeds when I was a kid and most went on to 125's and about half of them to something bigger - I doubt a fraction of that do these days.

I think BMW putting bikes in the car showrooms is a win for them, we will still go there if we want a BMW bike, trendy born-againer Power Rangers will happily hunt down the S1000RR in these showrooms, as will the non born again Power Rangers who buy whatever Bike Magazine tell them to. Not forgetting those who have watched Long Way Round over the weekend and need a fully stacked GSA to impress the neighbours.

As well as covering bikers both past and present they expose the bikes to the tin box brigade who would never have ventured into a "bikers" habitat providing them with a stream of potential new customers, I doubt all that many convert, but I suspect the car-bike converts these days outweigh the kids coming through the ranks by some margin.

I am sure most of us prefer things the way they were with a smaller fiendly dealer where you know the bloke selling the bikes, the chap who works on them and have a warm feeling because they are kindred spirits.

BMW are out to make money and I think this strategy will work, much as I dislike these setups, I too suspect most of the staff "are not real bikers" and only want to rob me of all my cash (Not certain the kindred spirits did not also do this, just I was happier to give them my cash)

The one upside is if it does stick more bums on seats it will help to keep the industry alive and motorcyclist numbers up - and we need that desperately.
 
what a load of tosh,have you actually taken the time to talk to the dealer staff and find out if they ride?do they trail ride at the weekends?do they compete?.as usual you make sweeping statements according to the world of rasher.and yes i have asked them and most ride and or compete and are regularly seen in the dealer hopping with injuries to prove it.
 
They must know "bikers" don't much care for the flashier showrooms and in most cases probably prefer the enthusiastic bike dealers.

I think many of these go downhill as they grow anyway, I suspect George White was a keen "biker" and loved motorcycles, but I doubt he is to be found in his shops too often and probably spends most of his time on a Yacht somewhere.

"Traditional Bikers" are dissapearing fast, and by "Traditional Biker" I mean those who have always had a love of bikes, started off on a moped, progressed to a 125 / 250 or whatever was allowed back in their day before quickly whizzing through a test so as to get on board some sort of huge powerhouse of a bike.

As a lad I had a picture of a GPZ900R on my wall, a couple of years later I got a FS1E, many college mates had trendy 50's, but these were restricted and slow so I got a FS1E (Had an AP50 as well at one point) I avoided a 125 and got a cheap 80 to pass my test and then bough a 250LC which was cheaper than my mates RD125's - and a lot bloody quicker, by nineteen I was on a GPZ900R - although by then the ZX10 was out, but I was certainly happy!

These days teenage kids get a ped because it is all they can have until they hit 17 and can have a car, I would say at least 25% of 16 year old boys had mopeds when I was a kid and most went on to 125's and about half of them to something bigger - I doubt a fraction of that do these days.

I think BMW putting bikes in the car showrooms is a win for them, we will still go there if we want a BMW bike, trendy born-againer Power Rangers will happily hunt down the S1000RR in these showrooms, as will the non born again Power Rangers who buy whatever Bike Magazine tell them to. Not forgetting those who have watched Long Way Round over the weekend and need a fully stacked GSA to impress the neighbours.

As well as covering bikers both past and present they expose the bikes to the tin box brigade who would never have ventured into a "bikers" habitat providing them with a stream of potential new customers, I doubt all that many convert, but I suspect the car-bike converts these days outweigh the kids coming through the ranks by some margin.

I am sure most of us prefer things the way they were with a smaller fiendly dealer where you know the bloke selling the bikes, the chap who works on them and have a warm feeling because they are kindred spirits.

BMW are out to make money and I think this strategy will work, much as I dislike these setups, I too suspect most of the staff "are not real bikers" and only want to rob me of all my cash (Not certain the kindred spirits did not also do this, just I was happier to give them my cash)

The one upside is if it does stick more bums on seats it will help to keep the industry alive and motorcyclist numbers up - and we need that desperately.


Spend much time being pointlessly judgemental? :eek
 
what a load of tosh,have you actually taken the time to talk to the dealer staff and find out if they ride?

I was saying that is probably the common perception, with the "real bike shops" Vs "Car Showrooms that sell bikes". It seems many on this forum are not so keen on this new practice of BMW's.

To be honest I really do not give a toss, if the deal / service / support etc. is up to scratch I personally do not care all that much as to the business model.

If anything I would prefer a smaller dealership as opposed to some huge place where you never talk to the same person twice, but with regard to BMW dealers I am not bothered if it is a car / bike franchise or bikes only.

And have I spoken to the people in these places? well yes some of them, but I don't go into a dealership and launch a Spanish Inquisition style investigation to see who rides what, or ask for detailed records of miles covered by motorcycle, accolades won in competition etc for all the staff - and I can't see how someone competing on a bike at the weekend will be any better at booking my bike in for a service / retrieving a part from the sotores than someone who went to the cinema :nenau
 
Bristol Motorrad

As of 1 November Bristol Motorrad will hand over the franchise to Dick Lovitt car group. I called into the showroom the other day as they have a sale of BMW clothing, quite a few bargains, worth a look. I have had excellent service from them for the last 20 odd years, and it is a real shame.

Spoke to the owner and asked about their workshop facilities, and was told that all the diagnostic equipment goes back to BMW, but that they had already purchased new equipment, and intend to continue as a BMW independant, no doubt at cheaper rates than a franchise dealer.

Having 2 showrooms and space to fill they have taken on a Peugeot Scooter franchise, hope this goes well for them.

I have no association with them, I am a satisfied customer of many years, and wish them well.
 
I have had excellent service from them for the last 20 odd years, and it is a real shame.
I am a satisfied customer of many years, and wish them well.[/QUOTE]

+1:rob
 


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