Caja Sahel : Adventure Luggage :

[kyle]

here is the top box now..damn good it is too.added the hinges meself but know civil could sort out something if its what you want

 

[the civil one]

More pictures

A wee picture i took earlier today ,

 

[Yoda]

Looking good Phil. How's the quick release coming along?

(My new financial year starts in a few weeks time......)

 

[Bob's yer uncle]

WOW

Those really look the business, just e mailed to get a price. Hope i can get them to RSA

 

[the civil one]

another

Showin a wee shot from the rear.

 

[Dinger]

I think these look poo.

 

[Jockser]

Civil that grass needs a cut & the drive needs weeding

 

[the civil one]

OK !

I think these look poo.

But why do you thionk they look Poo ?

 

[Jockser]

But why do you thionk they look Poo ?

No taste

 

[Thunder]

I think these look poo.

First off thank your favourity diety that we all have different tastes and ideas of what we like, one man's meat etc etc.

Secondly, I don't think its paticularly useful in any way to post that comment, maybe you should think before you hit submit next time, but as you have made the statement the least you can do is reply to Civil's question of what you don't like!

 

[Dinger]

First off thank your favourity diety that we all have different tastes and ideas of what we like, one man's meat etc etc.

Secondly, I don't think its paticularly useful in any way to post that comment, maybe you should think before you hit submit next time, but as you have made the statement the least you can do is reply to Civil's question of what you don't like!

OK. I was on nights last night and have been asleep today, hence no reply. I think there's a fine line between what looks good and bad on a GS. I have the stock luggage which I think looks good, my mate has the TT aluminium ones on his 1150, I think they look functional but still have enough style to look good. All this takes on the TT ones are a few ribs to act as "style lines" (as well as adding rigidity).
These Caja ones are coffin-like boxes and make the bike look like a hamburger stand or a scoot for an overambitious pizza-boy. They look home-made, which is fine if you've knocked them up yourself for cheapness but not for a professionally made and marketed product. For what it's worth, if they are cheap I applaud the man for producing a bargain that some peeps obviously like: if they're expensive I applaud him for getting away with it.
Before you ask, yes I could do better myself but having spent 10 grand on a bike I wasn't about to get cheap when it came to the luggage.
Besides, they don't look pillion friendly.

 

[Tricky]

I must admit Civil's panniers do look rather large but am sure they are very functional.

Now if you want ugly take a look at these...

(Ok if your trying to transport part of the Forth Road Bridge down south maybe... )

 

[DavidHale]

OK. I was on nights last night and have been asleep today, hence no reply. I think there's a fine line between what looks good and bad on a GS. I have the stock luggage which I think looks good, my mate has the TT aluminium ones on his 1150, I think they look functional but still have enough style to look good. All this takes on the TT ones are a few ribs to act as "style lines" (as well as adding rigidity).
These Caja ones are coffin-like boxes and make the bike look like a hamburger stand or a scoot for an overambitious pizza-boy. They look home-made, which is fine if you've knocked them up yourself for cheapness but not for a professionally made and marketed product. For what it's worth, if they are cheap I applaud the man for producing a bargain that some peeps obviously like: if they're expensive I applaud him for getting away with it.
Before you ask, yes I could do better myself but having spent 10 grand on a bike I wasn't about to get cheap when it came to the luggage.
Besides, they don't look pillion friendly.

I'm a believer in function before form. Personnaly I think that Civils' panniers look solid and functional. As for build quality, I've got a BMW ally top box, Metal Mule panniers and Civil has just built me a new top box (linky to pics ). The quality of workmanship is very good on all of the panniers and top boxes; all work very well. I will agree that my top box is not the most attractive thing ever to grace a motorcycle, but as I have said on the link the topbox Civil built to my specification is designed for a specific function. It does the job that I need it to do better than anything else avalible on the market. It is, IMHO, a bargin as well. No, I'm not going to say how much it was, but for a bespoke hand-built quality item it was very good value for money.

Just my 2p.

 

[the civil one]

WoW !

OK. I was on nights last night and have been asleep today, hence no reply. I think there's a fine line between what looks good and bad on a GS. I have the stock luggage which I think looks good, my mate has the TT aluminium ones on his 1150, I think they look functional but still have enough style to look good. All this takes on the TT ones are a few ribs to act as "style lines" (as well as adding rigidity).
These Caja ones are coffin-like boxes and make the bike look like a hamburger stand or a scoot for an overambitious pizza-boy. They look home-made, which is fine if you've knocked them up yourself for cheapness but not for a professionally made and marketed product. For what it's worth, if they are cheap I applaud the man for producing a bargain that some peeps obviously like: if they're expensive I applaud him for getting away with it.
Before you ask, yes I could do better myself but having spent 10 grand on a bike I wasn't about to get cheap when it came to the luggage.
Besides, they don't look pillion friendly.

Dinger Dings !
I would like , if i may to take your Last point First.
Which is the Question of Pillion friendly,ness
In Common with a lot of you Chaps , i {Have To} regulary take my
partner with me , be it a wee spin round the County , or that annual
jaunt in search of Sun . She , God bless her , was not gifted with ;Long legs
she has a rather Short wee leg.
I have to take her into my consideration when making even my own
panniers , so to that end i can firmly say there is no question of the
pillion being discomforted in any way what so ever , Cos i simply would have
heard about it before now.
On your first point , I agree , there most certaintly is a Fine line
between what looks good , and what is Down right ugly.
However i must dissagree , for me the Panniers look good. I know that simply
because i think i looks good , does not mean it actually looks good. In the
opening pages of my Website i say that "its the customer that dictates "
to that end , i offer a custom making facility , if you wanted your panniers
ribbed , i can do that too !.
Second Point : Home made , Maybe , but again i can provide you
with a multitude of finnished , which include "powder coating " or paint "
with all that that leaves open to your imagination.
Third Point : On this i am somwhat miffed ,
Quote" For a professionally made and Marketed Product: ! .
Well , Thanks , But doesnt that just dispell the other points.
I am just finnishing a new shape of pannier and top box .The Caja sahel
pannier will be a constantly evolving pannier , there will be other shapes
materials , Who knows. But as it sits , these are as good as you are going
to get.

 

[the civil one]

Available for 1200GS

These Adventure Frames are available for the 1200 GS .
These are for the True Adventurer .

 

[Dellis]

Having seem Civil's panniers first hand I feel that I have to add my ha'penny worth. I have been looking for panniers for some time the standard BM items being too small for my requirements. I have looked at Jesses which are made of fairly thin aluminium with not very substantial hinges and they reduce cornering clearance. TT are too square for my tastes. H&B too wide and look detached from the bike. Metal Mules are the best I have seen but are very expensive. I eventually went for global lids which add enough room for my requirements and don't detract from the overall look of the bike, however having now seen Civil's panniers first hand and spent some time discussing various aspect of them with him I regret not making a purchase from him. They are extremely well made high quality item and very good value for money.

All IMHO

Dave

 

[wilbjr21]

I have looked at Jesses which are made of fairly thin aluminium with not very substantial hinges and they reduce cornering clearance.

In the context of keeping your facts right - Jesses don't reduce cornering clearance as the footpegs touch first; aluminium is 2mm thick except for the lids where 1mm is used to reduce weight and not needed for strength (TT use 1.2mm aluminium) and the panniers will support a FULLY loaded GS1200 without a mark.

That being said I like Civil's and Metal Mules - Civil's not available for 1200 when I bought my Jesses.

 

[MikeP]

These Adventure Frames are available for the 1200 GS .
These are for the True Adventurer .

Civil,

I know your link is to Irish bus hire, but is it meant to have a link to your panniers?

If it is I can't find it.

I told someone who was looking for panniers to look at your stuff but all he could find was the bus hire stuff (maybe it's my cookies playing up again?).

 

[shuck raider]

Civil,

I know your link is to Irish bus hire, but is it meant to have a link to your panniers?

If it is I can't find it.

I told someone who was looking for panniers to look at your stuff but all he could find was the bus hire stuff (maybe it's my cookies playing up again?).

Must be a cookie thing, when I click on the wee palm tree, it links me to Civil's pannier site?

 

[Jockser]

I don't there's a link between his 2 sites

But the palm tree will get you in to the panniers